Car and Driver's Cars Worth Waiting For: 2016 Z

/Angelo350Z/ · 05-30-2013, 09:15 AM

I understand Nissan's financially not in a position to completely revamp the Z and start from scratch. Fortunately, the 370Z is a great starting point. It's lighter, faster, handles better, and has a better interior than the 350Z. If only the next Z can have at least 50 more hp, and a stiffer chassis while keeping the weight down, I'll be extremely happy. More frame reinforcements, and perhaps a retuned VK50VE from the Infiniti FX50 pushing over 400 hp with at least a 7K rpm redline comes to mind.

An FX50 is around $65K, so a similarly powered Z should be between $5K to $10K less than that. Sure, it's wishful thinking, but 500Z has a good ring to it. Oh, and no more boomerang lights please.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-30-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/

I understand Nissan's financially not in a position to completely revamp the Z and start from scratch. Fortunately, the 370Z is a great starting point. It's lighter, faster, handles better, and has a better interior than the 350Z. If only the next Z can have at least 50 more hp, and a stiffer chassis while keeping the weight down, I'll be extremely happy. More frame reinforcements, and perhaps a retuned VK50VE from the Infiniti FX50 pushing over 400 hp with at least a 7K rpm redline comes to mind.

An FX50 is around $65K, so a similarly powered Z should be between $5K to $10K less than that. Sure, it's wishful thinking, but 500Z has a good ring to it. Oh, and no more boomerang lights please.

It sounds like you want a corvette to me... Just trade for the C7 if that's what you want?

A 500z idea has no concept of Nissan's history culture and philosophy when it comes to the Z. If you really think a 500Z is a good idea??? Why don't we make the 500z crosstour and sedan too?

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We've deviated enough from Mr. K's original philosophy. It's time to bring it back closer to it's roots.

/Angelo350Z/ · 05-30-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

It sounds like you want a corvette to me... Just trade for the C7 if that's what you want?

A 500z idea has no concept of Nissan's history culture and philosophy when it comes to the Z. If you really think a 500Z is a good idea??? Why don't we make the 500z crosstour and sedan too?

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We've deviated enough from Mr. K's original philosophy. It's time to bring it back closer to it's roots.

Did you not read the "wishful thinking" part of my comment? I know this is not going to happen. Besides, I could care less about going back to the roots. What, you'd rather have a BRZ fighter as the next Z? I'd prefer a more powerful Z from the factory. A RWD, 2-seater slotted beneath the GTR is the Z I want. Something to compete with base Vettes and Carreras.

Magic Bus · 05-30-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/

Did you not read the "wishful thinking" part of my comment? I know this is not going to happen. Besides, I could care less about going back to the roots. What, you'd rather have a BRZ fighter as the next Z? I'd prefer a more powerful Z from the factory. A RWD, 2-seater slotted beneath the GTR is the Z I want. Something to compete with base Vettes and Carreras.

Like you, I don't want the future Z to be in the BRZ category. If Nissan goes that route, looks like I'll be keeping my 13Z for a while then move on to a different car company.

However, if they do add more power, shed weight in the right places, it should improve upon it's great handling and driving dynamics. I would trade up to a newer Z, even if it costs a little more.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-30-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/

Did you not read the "wishful thinking" part of my comment? I know this is not going to happen. Besides, I could care less about going back to the roots. What, you'd rather have a BRZ fighter as the next Z? I'd prefer a more powerful Z from the factory. A RWD, 2-seater slotted beneath the GTR is the Z I want. Something to compete with base Vettes and Carreras.

No issue with the Z being more powerful. But ugh, a v8 will kill everything about the car. Our car plows hard in corners now when stock and has an understeer issue when taking a corner at the limit.
Imagine how that will go with a 5.0L v8?

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

"we have to go lighter and more fuel efficient" sounds like a BRZ fighter to me!
Jay Leno at Nissan DNA Heritage Garage - YouTube

Not necessarily. A weight reduction and over 300hp would still keep it a Cayman fighter. The FR-S/BRZ is in everyones mouth cuz it's the new kid on the block. But that doesn't mean we need to compete with such a low powered vehicle.

Cars the z needs to worry about in terms of power

Porsche Cayman S chrono.
BMW 135is
Audi TT-S
BMW Z4
Possibly the next generation Hyundai gencoupe 3.8? (still questionable if it will be comp?)

m4a1mustang · 05-30-2013, 12:05 PM

Murano Cross Cabriolet.

b15 · 05-30-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Murano Cross Cabriolet.

Only if it's a VR38 coupled with a CVT and weighs 2800lbs with a max price of $28,999

m4a1mustang · 05-30-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by b15

Only if it's a VR38 coupled with a CVT and weighs 2800lbs with a max price of $28,999

Sounds doable.

JungleZ · 05-30-2013, 02:27 PM

Big difference between a BRZ fighter and Porshe competition... Guess which way we're going.

m4a1mustang · 05-30-2013, 02:29 PM

I think we should compete with Jeeps.

JungleZ · 05-30-2013, 02:35 PM

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I think we should compete with Jeeps.

come at me Jeep

JungleZ · 05-30-2013, 07:21 PM

They can barely sell 2013 $37,000 sport package z. I highly doubt a price increase to compete with porshe is the best idea, you guys stop with that.

Magic Bus · 05-30-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

They can barely sell 2013 $37,000 sport package z. I highly doubt a price increase to compete with porshe is the best idea, you guys stop with that.

Jungle, Exactly why I want it that way. You won't get one

The Dimer · 05-30-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

They can barely sell 2013 $37,000 sport package z. I highly doubt a price increase to compete with porshe is the best idea, you guys stop with that.

The biggest upgrade Nissan needs take to help sell the Z is in the marketing department. When's the last time you saw a commercial with a Z front and center that wasn't being stretched into a Maxima by an expecting father?

DEpointfive0 · 05-30-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer

The biggest upgrade Nissan needs take to help sell the Z is in the marketing department. When's the last time you saw a commercial with a Z front and center that wasn't being stretched into a Maxima by an expecting father?

Lol, they need to make it 400HP or close to it too.
Just make it direct injection at least!

05-30-2013, 09:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
/Angelo350Z/ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,230 Drives: Z34 \| MK7 \| F82 Rep Power: 3660	I understand Nissan's financially not in a position to completely revamp the Z and start from scratch. Fortunately, the 370Z is a great starting point. It's lighter, faster, handles better, and has a better interior than the 350Z. If only the next Z can have at least 50 more hp, and a stiffer chassis while keeping the weight down, I'll be extremely happy. More frame reinforcements, and perhaps a retuned VK50VE from the Infiniti FX50 pushing over 400 hp with at least a 7K rpm redline comes to mind. An FX50 is around $65K, so a similarly powered Z should be between $5K to $10K less than that. Sure, it's wishful thinking, but 500Z has a good ring to it. Oh, and no more boomerang lights please. __________________ 2013 MB NISSAN 370Z SPORT

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Murano Cross Cabriolet. Spikuh likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I think we should compete with Jeeps. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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JungleZ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: orange county,ca Posts: 652 Drives: leased base z... Rep Power: 0	They can barely sell 2013 $37,000 sport package z. I highly doubt a price increase to compete with porshe is the best idea, you guys stop with that. Super Moderator II, Felix 808 and ubs234 like this.

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JungleZ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: orange county,ca Posts: 652 Drives: leased base z... Rep Power: 0	Big difference between a BRZ fighter and Porshe competition... Guess which way we're going.

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