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So i've been reading that the next gen is going to be maybe smaller in size, leaner and instead of using the current 3.7 liter v6, they are going to

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Old 12-11-2012, 05:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So i've been reading that the next gen is going to be maybe smaller in size, leaner and instead of using the current 3.7 liter v6, they are going to use a turbo 4.

Personally i don't like that idea. I would like them to improve on the v6 if possible.

What do you guys think?
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I prefer Turbo Charged I/V 4 over v6 anyday! The weakness of the current 370z is lack of torque. 270 Ib/ft torque is bit outdated. I hope next gen z will fix that. Bottom line is FI FTW!
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I think DI is the next upgrade to increase HP/TQ. A turbo 4 imho is a step backwards. May as well turbo/sc the V6.
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a turbo 4 will not be adequate. Nissan doesn't have a turbo 4 in their stable large enough to pull duty. Realistically, I see a direct injected V6 continuing to use VVEL, possibly growing to 3.8L. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 100hp per liter. I do see a move from a steel frame to an aluminum which will drop at least 100lbs, most likely more. Moving to aluminum across their entire lineup sharing the same front midship platform will assist in keeping costs down. It will also increase their fuel economy as standards rise.
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a turbo 4 will not be adequate. Nissan doesn't have a turbo 4 in their stable large enough to pull duty. Realistically, I see a direct injected V6 continuing to use VVEL, possibly growing to 3.8L. I wouldn't be surprised if we see 100hp per liter. I do see a move from a steel frame to an aluminum which will drop at least 100lbs, most likely more. Moving to aluminum across their entire lineup sharing the same front midship platform will assist in keeping costs down. It will also increase their fuel economy as standards rise.
clearly you havent seen a properly modified evo, eclipse gsx, silvia(or 240sx with sr20det swap)

heck a $20 bleed valve on an evo will put it up with a stock Z easily
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clearly you havent seen a properly modified evo, eclipse gsx, silvia(or 240sx with sr20det swap)

heck a $20 bleed valve on an evo will put it up with a stock Z easily
I obviously have or I wouldn't have made my argument. Your comparing a modified car to a proposed factory car. So tell me again at what rpm the turbo begins to spin? The rest of the world does not want to wait for power, when the gas is pressed, they want the desired results now, not in a few seconds.
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I obviously have or I wouldn't have made my argument. Your comparing a modified car to a proposed factory car. So tell me again at what rpm the turbo begins to spin? The rest of the world does not want to wait for power, when the gas is pressed, they want the desired results now, not in a few seconds.
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I obviously have or I wouldn't have made my argument. Your comparing a modified car to a proposed factory car. So tell me again at what rpm the turbo begins to spin? The rest of the world does not want to wait for power, when the gas is pressed, they want the desired results now, not in a few seconds.
Your right with the exception that a properly sized turbo will have little to no lag dude. Especially those twin scroll units. Granted most factory cars are not so equiped but some are.

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Well their V8 versions offer more HP/$ than the Z. The 5.0 is definitely a better performance bargain and has more mod potential.


HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.
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Your right with the exception that a properly sized turbo will have little to no lag dude. Especially those twin scroll units. Granted most factory cars are not so equiped but some are.





HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.
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Your right with the exception that a properly sized turbo will have little to no lag dude. Especially those twin scroll units. Granted most factory cars are not so equiped but some are.





HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.
The 5.0 does give more Performance/$ than the Z as well and that includes around a road course. Have you looked at prices for a Boss 302? You can get a Boss 302 for around the same price as a Nismo 370Z so it is definitely relevant.
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HP/$ does not equal Performance/$ sorry...Ford has proven that by building a strait line performer not an all around sports car. I am talking about handling in case I'm not implying it.

Please do not mention the Boss 302 as it is not in the price point of the Z and therefore irrelevant.


I am curious what your information is based on...please enlighten us.



Not to mention...Boss 302:


Boss 302 2dr Car
6-speed Manual
$38,930 invoice



370Z...you can tack another $3k on these price, as they DO NOT include the sport package

Base 2dr Car

6-speed Manual
$31,026
$33,120
Base 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

7-speed Automatic
$32,242
$34,420
Touring 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

6-speed Manual
$35,027
$37,820
Touring 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

7-speed Automatic
$36,229
$39,120
NISMO 2dr Car

3.7L V6
RWD

6-speed Manual
$40,182
$43,020



Oops...hell, the getting Touring or the Nismo costs MORE!
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I think it depends on what Nissan decides they want to pit the car against. If they want to continue to compete with the Mustang/Camaro/Genesis (at least in price) then we're going to see a beefed up V6, maybe forced induction, maybe not.

If they decided to take it in an FRS/BRZ direction then we're going to see a smaller, lighter Z with a turbo 4.

That's my opinion at least.
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From what i read and from the link i provided, the boss from nissan wants to appeal to a wider range of people.
It seems more than likely i think they want the FRS/BRZ market instead of competing with the stangs, cameros and genesis.
I hope they keep the v6 and use di.

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If they decided to take it in an FRS/BRZ direction then we're going to see a smaller, lighter Z with a turbo 4.

That's my opinion at least.
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