Why can't very capeable people do what Ford can ....

TerribleONE

I think they have already kind of met that point ^

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Compdoc777

No matter what they are going to need to bring up HP to match the mustang and other related cars. They will probably use DI and a efficient turbo like most car companies are doing now. It will be a smaller motor. They will probably use more aluminum in the suspension. My Sky had the aluminum rear axel out of the CTS-V. I am sure Nissan can switch to a lighter rear axel.

UNKNOWN_370

This is what you're missing. The Z... is a NA 3.7 ltr V6 that rivals a challenger rt in performance. V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6VVVVVVVV666666. the key word is v6. just the fact it can hit 13.1 second quarters on an automatic stock is a huge feat for a V6. 1g of grip for 35k? Cutting edge technological breakthroughs left and right in the car like srm and vvel. Rays engineering wheels... Not enkei's or some other middle brand. Rays!!! Akebono brakes on the Z are the shortest real world stopping brakes under 70k. carbon fiber driveshaft and radiator housing and high grade aluminum everywhere.

Why does the Z need to be as fast as a mustang? i say make it a permanently low volume car in the USA. 3k units a year including nismo models and sport pkg. let us bid for a Z. American market doesnt deserve the next gen Z or the GT-R. Everyone buy a mustang if they care that much about straight line... let europe and asia keep enjoying what we cant understand in america.

I totally understand now why it took 30 years for nissan to bring the skyline this way. Most just don't get it.

mults

I agree 100%. If you want a car with a V8, RWD and just like every other "chach" car out there, get a Mustang, Corvette or Challenger. If you want something that is faster than 95% of the vehicles on the road, and a truely unique car, get a Z! If you want a Z that is as fast as the cars listed, then you are only a few mods away.

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UNKNOWN_370

YUP... Besides, I don't see anyone saying, "THE CAYMAN COSTS $60K+ AND IS SLOWER THAN THE MUSTANG". The Z may or may not be in the porsche's league as a budget version???? But they offer the same "TYPE" of sport driving. I dont see anyone saying the cayman needs to be faster than the mustang or its price rival... The corvette Z06.

wolf370z

Cars like the 370z are nearly extinct in today's car market. There's practically no sports cars in its price range that actually compete with it. The closest competitors to it are the Boxster ($48k+ MSRP), Cayman ($51k+), BMW Z4 ($48k+). The Z starts about $10k less (of course you can option it much higher) and can offer similar (or better) performance to these other cars.

The closest things on the cheaper end of the scale consist of the Subaru BRZ/Scion FS-R, Miata, etc. The STi and EvoX could potentially belong here for sake of those car's performance, but they do not fit the "sports car" bill, sorry Suby and Mitsu fans!

The problem is those little cars simply cannot keep up performance wise when you compare them to the 370z. The Z is in sort of this middle ground where it's powered by a (relatively) large displacement NA 6 cylinder. It doesn't have any sort of F.I., meaning that it has less tuning potential at the same price point (i.e. $3k into a FI car gets you much further than $3k into an NA car). So it's not sporting a smaller size 6 cylinder with FI nor is it powered by an NA v8 (like the Mustang GT or Camaro SS, which are similar in price).

So what you end up with is this sort of unique car that doesn't seem to fit into any other categories, isn't seen often on the road, and offers true sports car feeling and performance all in "fairly" entry level price point. I kind of enjoy this notion of minor exclusivity at a fairly cheap price. I hope I'm not taking this too far, but you're almost "pigeonholed" into the 370z if you're looking for a sports car that makes around 350hp.

So now I'm coming to the real meat of my post; I apologize for the massive introduction. There is no real DIRECT competition for the 370z, that's why you see it getting roped into comparisons with the Mustang GT, Camaro SS, and Challenger SRT8 (i.e. the muscle car crowd). The Z's legacy lies in 6 cylinder engines, but times have changed. Honestly, I enjoy seeing the return of muscle, I'm a huge muscle car fan and I love the idea of bang for your buck, that's the heritage of muscle cars.

My idea is that Nissan should use that "miniature Z" platform to produce a new model that hails back to the 240sx. Make it into a small "sporty" car with a turbo 4 cylinder, back seats, and rivals the performance of the Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ (give it a bit more power, it's great to create more competition). Meanwhile, take the 370z into the v8 direction. Develop a version of one of their existing v8's, call it a VK56VHR (I'm not too good with naming schemes) and make it a higher-revving performance oriented version of the existing 5.6L.

So now they offer a turbo 4 cylinder sporty car that could hint at the later year 240sx (97-98, or "kouki") styling. The G37 is still available if you want a sporty 3.7L NA v6. Even the sedan's that Nissan offers can still be "peppy" with the 3.5L v6.

Lastly, the Z is now a v8 powered sports car that doesn't take the back seat to the muscle cars, while still managing to produce that euphoric feeling of driving a sports car!

Of course all of this is just pure speculation and sort of a pipe dream of mine...

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UNKNOWN_370

In my dreams i would love the Z to forge more vital areas of the Z powerplant while finding new materials to reduce weight on the VQ by 90 lbs. A 3.7 or even go back to the 3.5,. Add the in-house forced induction piping that has been done on prototype level. refine the VQ platform by perfecting VVEL technology... maybe introduce direct injection, if necessary? Retune the Z ecu to make 300hp/300lbs of torque from its NA position and allowing to integrate the in-house turbo to add 120hp to stock engine. The NA version of the Z will be as stated and the FI would be around 420hp/380lbtq weight would be around 3000-3100 for this car.

Or just make the 3.0tt a 375hp car. with the reduced weight in the 2800-2900k lb area for this one. Refining the 3.7 would cost alot more money unless??? they'd been secretly working on it. At least turbos reflect decade one of Z culture. v8's are to heavy and will make for clumsy cornering on a wheelbase shorter than 104 inches. I love the handling too much at 100.4 to lose it.