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I think everyone is so caught up in HP. What the Z really needs to do is get to sub 3000 lbs while out putting similar power. But sure, more

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Old 07-27-2012, 09:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I think everyone is so caught up in HP. What the Z really needs to do is get to sub 3000 lbs while out putting similar power. But sure, more torque would be nice
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Dont be mad cause a dead horse is faster around a track than our Zs.
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I think they have already kind of met that point ^
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No matter what they are going to need to bring up HP to match the mustang and other related cars. They will probably use DI and a efficient turbo like most car companies are doing now. It will be a smaller motor. They will probably use more aluminum in the suspension. My Sky had the aluminum rear axel out of the CTS-V. I am sure Nissan can switch to a lighter rear axel.
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No matter what they are going to need to bring up HP to match the mustang and other related cars. They will probably use DI and a efficient turbo like most car companies are doing now. It will be a smaller motor. They will probably use more aluminum in the suspension. My Sky had the aluminum rear axel out of the CTS-V. I am sure Nissan can switch to a lighter rear axel.
This is what you're missing. The Z... is a NA 3.7 ltr V6 that rivals a challenger rt in performance. V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6VVVVVVVV666666. the key word is v6. just the fact it can hit 13.1 second quarters on an automatic stock is a huge feat for a V6. 1g of grip for 35k? Cutting edge technological breakthroughs left and right in the car like srm and vvel. Rays engineering wheels... Not enkei's or some other middle brand. Rays!!! Akebono brakes on the Z are the shortest real world stopping brakes under 70k. carbon fiber driveshaft and radiator housing and high grade aluminum everywhere.

Why does the Z need to be as fast as a mustang? i say make it a permanently low volume car in the USA. 3k units a year including nismo models and sport pkg. let us bid for a Z. American market doesnt deserve the next gen Z or the GT-R. Everyone buy a mustang if they care that much about straight line... let europe and asia keep enjoying what we cant understand in america.

I totally understand now why it took 30 years for nissan to bring the skyline this way. Most just don't get it.
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This is what you're missing. The Z... is a NA 3.7 ltr V6 that rivals a challenger rt in performance. V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6VVVVVVVV666666. the key word is v6. just the fact it can hit 13.1 second quarters on an automatic stock is a huge feat for a V6. 1g of grip for 35k? Cutting edge technological breakthroughs left and right in the car like srm and vvel. Rays engineering wheels... Not enkei's or some other middle brand. Rays!!! Akebono brakes on the Z are the shortest real world stopping brakes under 70k. carbon fiber driveshaft and radiator housing and high grade aluminum everywhere.

Why does the Z need to be as fast as a mustang? i say make it a permanently low volume car in the USA. 3k units a year including nismo models and sport pkg. let us bid for a Z. American market doesnt deserve the next gen Z or the GT-R. Everyone buy a mustang if they care that much about straight line... let europe and asia keep enjoying what we cant understand in america.

I totally understand now why it took 30 years for nissan to bring the skyline this way. Most just don't get it.



I agree 100%. If you want a car with a V8, RWD and just like every other "chach" car out there, get a Mustang, Corvette or Challenger. If you want something that is faster than 95% of the vehicles on the road, and a truely unique car, get a Z! If you want a Z that is as fast as the cars listed, then you are only a few mods away.
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I agree 100%. If you want a car with a V8, RWD and just like every other "chach" car out there, get a Mustang, Corvette or Challenger. If you want something that is faster than 95% of the vehicles on the road, and a truely unique car, get a Z! If you want a Z that is as fast as the cars listed, then you are only a few mods away.
YUP... Besides, I don't see anyone saying, "THE CAYMAN COSTS $60K+ AND IS SLOWER THAN THE MUSTANG". The Z may or may not be in the porsche's league as a budget version???? But they offer the same "TYPE" of sport driving. I dont see anyone saying the cayman needs to be faster than the mustang or its price rival... The corvette Z06.
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It's all about multi powertrain options. Ford is KING of this. Give us a boosted 4 and a beastly V8! Cost can still be kept low if they borrow the previously mentioned power plants from the infiniti/nissan line-up.

Cheaper car for those who want it. BEAST MODE car for the others
420hp in a Z would be FAST and fun... but still shouldn't detract from GTR owneres. No way would you get a 0-60 in 2.9 with a V8 RWD Z.
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we need a hybrid z with more airbags and 22inch rims IMHO.
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22s are like the new 19s. go big or go home.. 24's or you might as well be rolling on 16s
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22s are like the new 19s. go big or go home.. 24's or you might as well be rolling on 16s
Mybe on a passenger vehicle, but not a 2d coupe son! Plus, you want to keep the weight down. HEHE
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I'm a firm believer in "competition breeds innovation", especially for the automotive industry. Why wouldn't you want the Z to match or best the performance of the Mustang? Staying competitive with its competitors is the only way the Z will survive and live to get better. You're missing the fact that the Mustang is not only faster than the Z in a straight line, but also around a track.

Nissan should be setting their aims high rather than low. Why go after the V6 when you have the capability to take down the bigger and badder V8 mustang/camaro/etc. That's what it did with the GT-R and it has earned so much recognition because of it. They could have easily had it best the BMW and Mercedes in it's price range, but instead they went after more exotic supercars that cost like 5 times as much.
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I'm a firm believer in "competition breeds innovation", especially for the automotive industry. Why wouldn't you want the Z to match or best the performance of the Mustang? Staying competitive with its competitors is the only way the Z will survive and live to get better. You're missing the fact that the Mustang is not only faster than the Z in a straight line, but also around a track.

Nissan should be setting their aims high rather than low. Why go after the V6 when you have the capability to take down the bigger and badder V8 mustang/camaro/etc. That's what it did with the GT-R and it has earned so much recognition because of it. They could have easily had it best the BMW and Mercedes in it's price range, but instead they went after more exotic supercars that cost like 5 times as much.
NISSAN370Z=V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V6V 6V6V6V6V6V6
MUSTANG GT=V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V8V 8V8

INNOVATION???????? If nissan chooses to FI and reduce weight on the Z to be faster than a stang... Awesome. but dont forget what the Z is. And the Z is not and never was or should be a v8 or 4cyl.
Selling it out with a 5.6 to appease some domestic muscle-jocker is out of the question to ANY TRUE Z ENTHUSIAST.

REMEMBER THE GTR COST 106K NICELY EQUIPPED AND THE MUSTANG AT ITS HIGHEST IS 70K. gtr point not taken

Actually the shelby starts at $54,900
The nissan gt-r starts at $96,820

HUGE DIFFERENCE

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