Why can't very capeable people do what Ford can ....

kenchan

there's cost. then there's cost... and cost and cost and cost and economy and you end up with the same engine used on G37's due to cost.

nakamura and french guy knows this. but they still decided to launch the 370Z with that engine so i am not sure why they are facepalming now. i think the car is brilliant for what it is.

Lug

This. It falls right between the FR-S/BRZ and the Mustang on power/weight/handling and will have sales sucked in either direction. When it was introduced in 2009, the Mustang wasn't even a real competitor and the FR-S/BRZ was only a concept. Hopefully, the 201X (5?) will reduce weight/add power to put it back on top.

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whoady4shoady

By todays standards it can definitely be done, and for a reasonable price.

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Mt Tam I am

RE: there's cost. then there's cost... and cost and cost and cost and economy and you end up with the same engine used on G37's due to cost.

So why not cross platform with Infiniti V8 vs V6? Instead they talk about a smaller Nissan shared platform.

Yadah, yahda, profit. Economics. Remove passion. I get it.

I too think the car is brilliant for what it is.

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kenchan

you already know the answer to that too, mr. tam. the Z is nissan's budget fun car and they have other plans to bring in higher end sport-coupes for infiniti unrelated to the Z.

they are making a strong distinction between budget and luxury, GTR being their only exception.

Compdoc777

Nissan. Need to update the technology on all the motors. The VQ needs DI, with turbo smaller displacement @ 3.0 Power and Torque. With a lot the goodies oil sprayers, cooler, twin clutch. That would make the car fun and fuel efficient.

Heck my 2.0 DI turbo in my Sky made 300 whp 350 torque with tune and driving like a bat out of hell I could maintain 18 mpg. Boosting to 24 lbs.

kenchan

yah, were is saturn today?

whoady4shoady

In space...............

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Bick

The current z model is comparable to a porche Boxster or cayman for half the price. I don't see why Nissan doesn't continue to refine the current iteration of the z instead of going with a smaller lighter version, I know i won't be buying a turboed 4 popper. I would however buy a turboed 6 cylinder

Compdoc777

Saturn may be gone but the motor 2.0 ecotec DI turbo motor is used across all GM platforms and still going very strong.

kenchan

yah, but the point is, nakamura and french guy is running a company, not an engine.

UNKNOWN_370

They're facepalming cuz americans are the largest market. And generally,the american market likes to COPY or be copied. If another country does somethimg original? it sucks till america could do it better or that country can outperform a mustang for less money. Garbage mentality.

Show me an NA v6 that is as powerful and as fast as the VQ in america and i will mail that guy a box of milkbones.

what kills me is how the american market gets angry over the Z not being as fast as a GT. but the 3.7 v6 stang is its displacement rival. yet the Z is a few 10ths short of a mustang GT.

Everybody wants the Z to be the fastest on the bock. QUESTION? IF our Z was a 12.4 second car stock. It would cost almost as much as a M3. Would you guys buy it? hell naw. you'd be complaining the Z wasnt as HQ as a BMW. you guys would talk about the overpriced nissan like its a kia. The gtr suffers that now and its the fastest production car in the market.

there's nothing wrong ith the current Z except i still dont really understand vvel. And if that's why we supposedly have oil heating issues? Then maybe we don't need it?

Would i welcome a new and more capable V6 ONLY engine in the Z??? Hell yeah. FI? hell yesssssss. v8... fukk no. u want a f'in muscle car? buy one. i didn't buy the Z to compete or feel like a stang. you have the stang and the bimmer to perform like each other. leave the Z a cult car... love it or leave it and i"ll order the rhd from japan when they decide to chuck an american version.