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Originally Posted by kenchan one is a sports car and one is not. Hmmmm... I guess I have to softball this one for you. How is he defining the term

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Old 02-18-2012, 06:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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one is a sports car and one is not.
Hmmmm... I guess I have to softball this one for you. How is he defining the term "sports car"?

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Its usually simple things that people make very difficult...you should know that by now.
So understanding someone's frame of reference is a bad thing? Shocker.
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I'm not sure what your situation is...

will back seats be something you want?

Are you an audiophile"

Are you going to mod?

What's most important to you from your driving experience?

You are talking numbers and times as a means to choosing your car? Are you a professional racer?
Do you make money from doing quarter mile runs that 10ths of a second are that important???

The Z is a much better car imho but the hyundai is very good too...
Don't let the 348hp fool you. Between the 2 cars the 274hp turbo gen will probably be the best buy on that side. The list of reasons why is too long to list. If you are considering a 3.8 na v6? I would just spend the cash and get a certified pre-owned G. Performance may match but your interior will be sooooo far ahead in quality you will laugh at the gen.
When you buy a 2.0 you are buying the realistic value of a gen. Mid 20's for a 274hp 275lb tq car that can be easily modified to 400hp with an auto transmission directly from a 430hp v8 genesis rspec. Or a newly revamped manual. The 2.0 weight is the equivalent to a Z and hyundai has most likelt fixed the old 2.0 flaws.

Going back to the Z. The Z is faster than any other "affordable"NA v6 and will most likely remain that way even after hyundai gets there 348hp on the street. The Z has a much higher mod potential buut... that mod potential is going to cost a pretty penny. Turbo is the best way to go on the Z and that's about a 15k investment once all is said and done. Handling the Z is far superior than the hyundai and even with the new tweaks... I doubt its long wheebase can change that.

Its your choice... but I would test drive both and throw the Scion FR-S and 2013 mustang GT. If you can afford about 10k extra to the Z. Go mustang BOSS 302. V8's are inherintly cheaper to mod and you get huge HP gains from simple mods.
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:25 PM   #33 (permalink)
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the 370 is lighter and has MUCH better suspension geometry(SLA wishbone Vs Mac strut) and chassis design. So the Z will handle better and have higher potential for better handling with modification, and has to support less weight. but still drive both and see what you like. even with the new power figure, i still dont think it will be much, if any faster then a 370 power to weight ration wise
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So understanding someone's frame of reference is a bad thing? Shocker.
No it was just the part you highlighted to ask it. You had to have seen a sarcastic remark coming when you asked that.
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One more car to seriously check out... the EVO. I drove an evo on a TIGHT 360 degree donut highway exit at 75mph. Can't do that in my Z. 60mph is all I can do on a donut on a stock Z. And I'm basically drifting at that point... the EVO can manage that feat while planted.
But the Z still wins in my book in overall quality.

A used ipl is also a better car to cross shop... check it out. Sub 43k pricing on lightly used ipl's. Ipl's go for about 50-52k before TTL AND FEES.

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oh wait, i shouldn't say "stupid." that might offend people.


this is f-ked up.
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My buddy just got a Gen Coupe. He seems to like it, but I don't see the car giving him the allure my Z gives me at all. I still get chills driving my car after owning it a year. Something that made me feel kinda bad is when he threw a party the same day he got the car. Friends that were invited over expecting to see his new ride kept pointing mine out saying "Is that it? It's bad ***!" and he would laugh each time and say "No! The Hyundai!"

I see Genesis Coupes around a lot more, so they're fairly common. Not saying the 370z is super rare, but it definitely turns heads enough. I got a nod from a guy in an R8 once, and another time was told by a cop he thought my car was a Porsche (just passing conversation, I wasn't in trouble yet haha).

Maybe I'm being a bit sensationalist about it, but the car is just so damn awesome.

The one thing about the Genesis that appealed to me was the interior. It has a real eye catching style. The 370z interior is pretty bitchin too though.

I mean, you *are* asking in a 370z enthusiast community, so these answers are going to naturally be biased. If you're really that torn then you should test drive both.

The very first reply to your question said it best imo. Nissan has been designing sports cars for almost half a century, Hyundai is *just* emerging from the "budget" car manufacturer.

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At the end of the day it's a Hyundai. Z has a legacy and history behind it. It looks better, sounds better, interior is better. I will go as far as saying a newer 350z like 07 and up looks better and also the Nismo 350z while be significantly cheaper. 370z is no brainer. Why not a roadster 370z?
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hyundai has come a long way and has been making alot of quality cars. but at the end of the day its still a hyundai and i would never drive one. and the gencoupe is imo too common and ricey compared to the 370z. my .02
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Thank you all! I am leaning more towards the Z. Somebody asked me about a Roadster...the thing is, I do not like it. It does not look as sleek as the regular coupe. Since I am in not in a hurry, I think I will wait a couple of more weeks and see if we see any performance reports of the new Gen Coupe. As of now, I am 70% Z!
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Another question for you guys! A local dealer has offered me a 2012 base with sport package for $34,821+TTL. Do you think I could do better? Actually, they have offered me three options:

1. 2012 Base - $31,693+TTL
2. 2012 Base w/sport package - $34,821+TTL
3. 2012 Touring - 35,562+TTL

I am leaning more towards the 2nd option. Can I do better? Should I choose a different option?
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