Thinking of trading 09 stg 2 STI for 370...

WarmAndSCSI

I'll put it this way. I have a modified Evo X which I quite like the driving dynamics and "feel" of, but I like the feel of the 370Z better. I like how it rotates, I like how it is more nimble; it's just a better driver's car.

It's pretty much common opinion out there that the Evo X handles and feels superior to the 08+ STi, so think of my feedback what you will. I suggest picking up the Z. IMO it's two steps above the STi.

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kotik

thanks for all the inputs.

although my STI is 09, I think i have ringland issue. pisses me off, cause i got to take it to the dealer, and to do that, i have to take everything off (this would be the 3rd time i have to do that). First, when i putted CAI (cobb has a new map for it), the car started driving like **** after 300miles... took all off, took it to the dealer, he told me that cause of CAI i have oil in the system now (it pulled oil from crank)... needed oil separator. I didn't put the intake back on, drove it for a bit, but it still drives like **** (barely hitting 15psi, vs 20psi that it should be hitting). Did a log, and was told it's ringlands. Then, I have a weird creak in the back... should be taken care of by the dealer... When i was getting my lights tinted (reputable place, 212 motoring in NY), they pointed out that both my rear lights had cracks thru them (kind of look like spider web, only noticed up close, and kind of neat), dealer refused changing them cause they were tinted.
As far as stop light to stop light speed... yea, STI is much quicker off the line than most cars, but to do that you are abusing it. I have launch control now, but still, doing 5k launches without wheel spin, puts a lot of stress on the drivetrain. so I do it on very rare occasions (to teach some m or amg snubs). When I was stage 1, i hit 12.9 at 105, so looking at your guy's trap i'd say Z is pretty even on the roll with stg 1 sti.

I did test drive the 370 when it first came out. I liked it... i like the 2 door coupe feel it has to it. Before i got STI my choices were 335, 135, 370, C6, Z4MC... really wanted Z4MC but couldn't find the color I wanted at the time. Almost bought ls3 C6. Left bmw's alone, cause i was reading about all the problems they have... turbo's giving out after 50k, and just **** service you get from dealers.

tolnep

i was looking at a 370z. because of the economy, i decided to spend some money on my 2003 WRX, which was already paid for. i did all of the labor myself.

complete ground control shocks/struts, replaced the bushings with 'performance' (not solid and not softer rubber) units, sti lower aluminum lower control arms, stiffer steering rack bushings, whiteline ALK. kept wheels and tires stock size.....

evoIII 16g turbo, larger injectors, up and down pipe, cobb turbo back, larger turboXS topmount, larger fuel pump, cobb access port 2.

i tuned it myself. i can run e85 or high test or a mixture. i use a wideband 02 and a laptop running access tuner race...

on e85 i run around 21 psi max boost. its a fine daily driver, the stock wheels/tires combined with the upgraded suspension gives me all the grip i need on the street. its quicker than the 370.

the 370z obviously would be a 'nicer' new car. but from a performance standpoint the wrx is better and it is in a daily driver.

if i had started with an STI of course the results would have been all the better...

my opinion about the 370z is mixed. the engine feels 'strained'. it has the oil issue and finally if it had 400+ hp (or there was a version that had that hp) it would be a killer and i would buy one. in the end, with the economy, i felt it came up a bit short on performance, though its a good product for its price.

my opinion about subies, WRXs and STIs and tuning is that theres some good stuff left on the table if you dont get greedy. many MANY folks get greedy with boost/power and very quickly get in way over their heads monetarily. often these cars go back to stock and on the market making it a bit risky to pick a used one up. but anyway if you are conservative you can up their performance to a level that is equal or better than 99 percent of whats available on the market OEM (i leave out z06s, cobras, vipers, 911s etc).

VQinside

I just sold my 06 wrx stage 2 for the sports manual Z.
The suby had some nasty torque and the power delivery was simply inmediate, the Z feels slower but its not, unlike the suby there is power everywhere at any gear but you have to rev the Z a lot to get the power out of it like any low torque car. I know I will definetely miss AWD soon simply cuz you never lose traction.

The biggest sales point besides exterior looks and interior quality was the way this car handles! this car handles like NOTHING I've ever driven, its just amazing.
I will miss the suby but this car is a step up.
Also I went from getting looks from teenage boys to some nice ladies staring at the Z

kenchan

i like the hatch STI's... was seriously considering one as my dd. one thing i didn't like about it was the spool. it quickly reminded me it was a 4 banger when i was slightly out of its torque band.

i think the STI is best driven stock. maybe do adjustable swaybars to tune out the understeer a bit. that's about all i'd do. ended up passing on the STI though. bascially i was done with the local subaru dealers with their poor customer support.

ProfessorDave

(Psst! Ken! open the hood of the Fit in your pristine garage. It's a 4 banger!)

I also considered the STI or WRX in the hatch as a DD. Went with the Mazda for better fuel economy (sorry, slightly off topic).

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kenchan

but that's my point... it reminded me of my Fit when the STI was in lower rpm's... it was like im not paying $31.5K for a new 09 STI if it's going to remind me of my already paid off FitSport each time im driving in traffic during the commute...

i also checked out the new Mazdaspeed3 with the huge .... the rear footwell was about 3-4" narrower than my Fit so passed. i still got little kids riding along so need the wider foot wells. in that respect the STI and xB both had about as much room as my Fit (which is quite wide).

ProfessorDave

Just busting you Ken! For a commuter car, the Fit is great!
Mazdaspeed3 is a nice blend of function and performance, but yeah, those rear seats are tight-ish. Sleeper of a car.
The WRX hatchback is a nice looking car, and would definitely consider it if I were only going to have one car. But to the OP, I'd recommend the Z if it fits your lifestyle/location. I never stopped dead in my tracks to stare at a Subbie!

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red6spd

Yep from a roll it would be close, and a fully bolted Z with a tune would more then likely beat you. I had a friend with a Stage2 09 WRX which is faster then the STI from what I heard. I beat him from a roll with just CAI. Your Subby is deff a better car to live with everyday especially in winter. But the Z is so sexy, An STI or WRX was my second choice.

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kotik

yes, stg 2 09-10 wrx is faster than stock STI, but nowhere close to stg 2 STI. STG 2 STI is almost 100bhp jump from stock. Still not too fast on a roll... i used to have mazdaspeed 3, stg 2, and i really believe that it is faster past 110mph....'


what you guy's think about 135

Gunzero

Just get a Supra!

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red6spd

135 is nice, but I would spend the extra money and get the 335. I think the 135 is weird looking.

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Gunzero

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RCZ

do it, ive driven both very modified and the z is way better.

Brazilbro

I wouldn't get the Z unless you can afford F.I. ... You'll never be fully happy until you feel boost again.

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