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Old 08-25-2010, 09:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just had the opportunity to drive a Corvette Grand Sport 6MT during a Chevy test drive experience last weekend. The interior has been improved and feels livable but not luxurious. The driving experience is awesome though. It pulls much harder than our Z and the steering feel is light and extremely responsive. The new vette is an awesome car, but I can't get over the demographic I usually see driving it. Also, too many vette owners think they have supercars. It annoys me.
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I just had the opportunity to drive a Corvette Grand Sport 6MT during a Chevy test drive experience last weekend. The interior has been improved and feels livable but not luxurious. The driving experience is awesome though. It pulls much harder than our Z and the steering feel is light and extremely responsive. The new vette is an awesome car, but I can't get over the demographic I usually see driving it. Also, too many vette owners think they have supercars. It annoys me.
I agree with all you said except the demographic issue.z owners could say
the same thing about the corvette guys about the demographics

two things the cars do have in common...... for the money in each price range
they have no equals.
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The only thing wrong with checking out other forums sometimes is its hard
to weed out the bull.s....

heck if i read all the bad things about the 370 on here i might never have bought one to start with......just saying......
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The only thing wrong with checking out other forums sometimes is its hard
to weed out the bull.s....

heck if i read all the bad things about the 370 on here i might never have bought one to start with......just saying......
thats what makes it so hard to decide and a quick ride wont show all the bad things that might happen later on. So you have weed weed weed.
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thats what makes it so hard to decide and a quick ride wont show all the bad things that might happen later on. So you have weed weed weed.
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I just had the opportunity to drive a Corvette Grand Sport 6MT during a Chevy test drive experience last weekend. The interior has been improved and feels livable but not luxurious. The driving experience is awesome though. It pulls much harder than our Z and the steering feel is light and extremely responsive. The new vette is an awesome car, but I can't get over the demographic I usually see driving it. Also, too many vette owners think they have supercars. It annoys me.
demographic -----I think you used the wrong word!
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2005 Chevrolet Corvette Reliability - MSN Autos



and 2009 model camparisons...
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As someone who has owned both Zs (350Z and 370Z) as well as a C6 Corvette these comparison threads make me laugh.

Bottom line it's like comparing apples and oranges. Both cars are capable cars and great perfomrance bargains, but in different price ranges and with different target markets.

All things considered (including price) I prefer the Z. That doesn't mean I didn't like Corvette, just that overall I would rather have a Z. However, performance wise the Corvette is the king of the hill in almost every category. It really depends on what you want.

What I want is a Z with an LS3 motor.
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As someone who has owned both Zs (350Z and 370Z) as well as a C6 Corvette these comparison threads make me laugh.

Bottom line it's like comparing apples and oranges. Both cars are capable cars and great perfomrance bargains, but in different price ranges and with different target markets.

All things considered (including price) I prefer the Z. That doesn't mean I didn't like Corvette, just that overall I would rather have a Z. However, performance wise the Corvette is the king of the hill in almost every category. It really depends on what you want.

What I want is a Z with an LS3 motor.
I agree. However, I came from owning an LS1 car. I loved the power, but after a while, all I could think about was what a POS my WS6 was, how it rattled, how it broke every other week in one way or another (literally). How the door-panels were cracking, etc.

Sure, beating NSX's and all that was fun, but in the end I drove a POS and I hated it.

The C6 isn't a POS taken on its own, but compared to the Z, it kinda is unless you get the 4LT package (or 3LZ), but even then the interior quality is lacking, the seats are unsupportive, the thing creaks and has horrible cowl-shake, etc.

Yes, it is fast.
Yes, with 325's out back it does have 1G lateral grip.

I went and looked at 911's today. I could not tell a difference in the 100K 911 Carrera's interior and the 370Z Touring's interior as far as quality or material use. I prefered the lay-out of the Z. I really don't think the P car had ANYTHING on the Z as far as interior in any way. Again, I don't own either car, so I am not trumping up "my" car. Just calling the shots how I saw it.
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I went and looked at 911's today. I could not tell a difference in the 100K 911 Carrera's interior and the 370Z Touring's interior as far as quality or material use. I prefered the lay-out of the Z. I really don't think the P car had ANYTHING on the Z as far as interior in any way. Again, I don't own either car, so I am not trumping up "my" car. Just calling the shots how I saw it.
I am not at all impressed by Porches, I think 911's are fugly, and the Cayman interior has nothing on the Z, but probably outperforms the Z by a smidgen - not worth the price difference. Audi, on the other hand, does interiors better than anyone, but have no car in the Z catagory (no, the TT is not really a sports car, it's a hairdressers car). The R8 or R10 is not quite as good as the GTR, according to the experts who have driven them.
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I agree. However, I came from owning an LS1 car. I loved the power, but after a while, all I could think about was what a POS my WS6 was, how it rattled, how it broke every other week in one way or another (literally). How the door-panels were cracking, etc.

Sure, beating NSX's and all that was fun, but in the end I drove a POS and I hated it.

The C6 isn't a POS taken on its own, but compared to the Z, it kinda is unless you get the 4LT package (or 3LZ), but even then the interior quality is lacking, the seats are unsupportive, the thing creaks and has horrible cowl-shake, etc.

Yes, it is fast.
Yes, with 325's out back it does have 1G lateral grip.

I went and looked at 911's today. I could not tell a difference in the 100K 911 Carrera's interior and the 370Z Touring's interior as far as quality or material use. I prefered the lay-out of the Z. I really don't think the P car had ANYTHING on the Z as far as interior in any way. Again, I don't own either car, so I am not trumping up "my" car. Just calling the shots how I saw it.
Man I have to tell you that the Porsche has better quality. Here is something I have found in the Z that kinda made me say HMMMMM. If you look at the guages in the front where all the check eng lights come on when starting up and the sun is hitting the gauge from behind the car, you can see that Nissan used a cardboard pice with the guage icons cut out and just put over the whole thing. Kinda like a carboard cutout. Now in my other cars Ive owned it was atleast plastic cutouts put over. And Im not talking about the clear plastic piece. What is funny is that the cardboard cutout has intentations that can be seen when the sun hits its showing its unevenness. Its not a biggy but thats the little things that tell me the Z is not at the Porsche BMW Audi or Merc levels of materials. I love my Z but I make no pretense its quiality was as good as my Audi material wise and even parts wise. Like I said I went down in quality going to the Z but I wanted the more power so its something you have to live with. Now I will have to drive the vette soon and get a feel for the ride and comfort of the seats but Im only 5'8 so Im sure they will be fine for me. Even in the Z when I went from GA to TX my legs started hurting from the long days rides.
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Man I have to tell you that the Porsche has better quality. Here is something I have found in the Z that kinda made me say HMMMMM. If you look at the guages in the front where all the check eng lights come on when starting up and the sun is hitting the gauge from behind the car, you can see that Nissan used a cardboard pice with the guage icons cut out and just put over the whole thing. Kinda like a carboard cutout. Now in my other cars Ive owned it was atleast plastic cutouts put over. And Im not talking about the clear plastic piece. What is funny is that the cardboard cutout has intentations that can be seen when the sun hits its showing its unevenness. Its not a biggy but thats the little things that tell me the Z is not at the Porsche BMW Audi or Merc levels of materials. I love my Z but I make no pretense its quiality was as good as my Audi material wise and even parts wise. Like I said I went down in quality going to the Z but I wanted the more power so its something you have to live with. Now I will have to drive the vette soon and get a feel for the ride and comfort of the seats but Im only 5'8 so Im sure they will be fine for me. Even in the Z when I went from GA to TX my legs started hurting from the long days rides.
IT does make one go "hmmm", but who is to say it really IS cardboard? Have you touched the material to know? It may have a similar corrugated construction and not be cardboard, which would have all sorts of issues in high-humidity, which is why I think it is NOT cardboard as we think of it.
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Looking at the MSN user-ratings, the Z scored a perfect 10. The 'vette did not.

JD power looks like they are handing out "most improved" awards instead of actual assessments of quality. There is no way the 'vettes I looked at held a candle to the Z in "initial quality" unless you just looked at photos of them and compared lay-outs or something. Touch the materials and appearance gives way to reality.

http://autos.msn.com/research/userre...?modelid=13868

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Looking at the MSN user-ratings, the Z scored a perfect 10. The 'vette did not.

JD power looks like they are handing out "most improved" awards instead of actual assessments of quality. There is no way the 'vettes I looked at held a candle to the Z in "initial quality" unless you just looked at photos of them and compared lay-outs or something. Touch the materials and appearance gives way to reality.

2010 Nissan Z User Reviews - MSN Autos

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2010 Chevrolet Corvette User Reviews - MSN Autos
so by MSN user ratings the Z actually outperforms the Vette! Wow! I think I see some real fanboi action there!
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so by MSN user ratings the Z actually outperforms the Vette! Wow! I think I see some real fanboi action there!
It probably does. Performance doesn't just mean all-out. It can also mean how well a car does what it was designed to do. For instance, maybe the 370Z doesn't grind gears when cold like cars that have the TR6060 transmission do? Ergo, performing better.

I don't think it means they think it is faster.
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