Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

RCZ · 12-28-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

Carbotech XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.

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They will be fine on the road. That disclaimer is just a heads up that the pads are dusty and noisy. All track pads are dusty and noisy though so there is no alternative.

The only thing you can do is get street pads for when you aren't on the track (keep the stockers) and then swap them out the night before you go to the track...takes about 45 minutes for the average homo sapien to swap pads on this car.

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Originally Posted by Mag350Z

Also in the same issue there is a small piece on the 2010 GTR. The article discusses the changes made to launch control for 2010. According to Car and Driver the GTR is now 0.8 seconds slower to 60 due to changes in the launch control program.

I also feel disappointed in Nissan. The GTR and 370Z are marketed as Porsche fighters for a fraction of the cost, but I don't read about 911 transmissions self destrucing after using launch control, or Caymans over heating or losing braking power.

From the rev up motor oil consumption to GTR transmissions, to 370 overheating problems it seems that Nissan may be sacrificing good engineering in order to meet pricing goals.

You can't expect a car to cost 20k less and perform the same. Don't be disappointed, get pads and an oil cooler ( $1000 installed) and then you can go tool on those caymans all day long.

pulpz · 12-29-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

They will be fine on the road. That disclaimer is just a heads up that the pads are dusty and noisy. All track pads are dusty and noisy though so there is no alternative.

The only thing you can do is get street pads for when you aren't on the track (keep the stockers) and then swap them out the night before you go to the track...takes about 45 minutes for the average homo sapien to swap pads on this car.

This is why Nissan went with street pads. Owners of 350Z (me included) complained about brake dust more than braking performance on the track. So expecting to swap pads before a track day isn't an issue.

I think the outstanding issue that Nissan has to address is how suddenly the stock pads fail without warning under track conditions. I still can't understand why Nissan engineering would accept this as a safe failure under reasonable use conditions.

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Originally Posted by RCZ

You can't expect a car to cost 20k less and perform the same. Don't be disappointed, get pads and an oil cooler ( $1000 installed) and then you can go tool on those caymans all day long.

I agree. And 0-60 in my mind isn't a primary measure of a sub 4sec. sports car's performance. At the end of the day it comes down to track times for me.

370Zsteve · 12-29-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pulpz

This is why Nissan went with street pads. Owners of 350Z (me included) complained about brake dust more than braking performance on the track.

So it was the 350Z owners' fault.

Brake dust over performance.

370Zsteve · 12-29-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

You can't expect a car to cost 20k less and perform the same. Don't be disappointed, get pads and an oil cooler ( $1000 installed) and then you can go tool on those caymans all day long.

I want to believe! But why don't you say that about the GTI? Or the Genesis? Or......

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