Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

Zsteve · 12-27-2009, 09:31 AM

So are these car magazines truely unbiased? Or do they have an agenda behind them when they test all these cars? Some love certain cars while some hate the ones the others love.

VCuomo · 12-27-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

So are these car magazines truely unbiased? Or do they have an agenda behind them when they test all these cars? Some love certain cars while some hate the ones the others love.

Every writer has his or her own bias (although not necessarily an "agenda").

Zeto · 12-27-2009, 09:54 AM

I love how they think they were the reason for the release of the new track pad

Mercennarius · 12-27-2009, 03:01 PM

Lame...

These pads should be standard on all Nismo/track package 370Zs.
C&D sucks at driving.

MightyBobo · 12-27-2009, 03:21 PM

Hey look, I fared better than that! lol

Sharif@Forged · 12-27-2009, 03:55 PM

LOL...definitely more like talent failure.

Brake failure...that's a good one.

pulpz · 12-27-2009, 05:06 PM

C&D claims it was a hardware failure, while Nissan just says the pad isn't designed for track use. There is no specific statement identifying the hardware component that failed ( i.e. cracked brake pad, ruptured brake line, piston assembly. etc. - so abruptly as C&D claims.) Nissan simply states the brake pads are not designed for track use - implying a position of no liability, not specificity identifying the pad as a failed component.

I think until C&D goes into more detail regarding the investigation, I have to call ******** on this as well.

nicknick · 12-28-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pulpz

C&D claims it was a hardware failure, while Nissan just says the pad isn't designed for track use. There is no specific statement identifying the hardware component that failed ( i.e. cracked brake pad, ruptured brake line, piston assembly. etc. - so abruptly as C&D claims.) Nissan simply states the brake pads are not designed for track use - implying a position of no liability, not specificity identifying the pad as a failed component.

I think until C&D goes into more detail regarding the investigation, I have to call ******** on this as well.

RCZ · 12-27-2009, 10:22 PM

I was on track a while ago when the brakes failed on me. If I had not had a run off area, I would have crashed the car.

Its the pads...

Sharif@Forged · 12-27-2009, 10:31 PM

We have Carbotechs in stock. It's pretty much all we use at the track. It's also rotor and street friendly as well, unlike many race pads.

My point about the brake failure, is that even a semi-experienced amateur driver would recognize quickly that the OEM pad is not suited for track use, and adjust his driving accordingly. Blaming the brake pad or braking system is a poor excuse, especially for a professional magazine.

VCuomo · 12-27-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged

My point about the brake failure, is that even a semi-experienced amateur driver would recognize quickly that the OEM pad is not suited for track use, and adjust his driving accordingly. Blaming the brake pad or braking system is a poor excuse, especially for a professional magazine.

However, C&D claims that there was no warning prior to the complete brake system failure (although that's pretty hard to believe).

RCZ · 12-27-2009, 10:32 PM

Dont use Super Blue... get Motul RBF600, its a little more, but I have had much much better experiences with the motul than the ATE...

Shariff: My stock pads were working fine on track until I started adding a little pace. They let go suddenly and the car would not stop. It was so sudden that it caught me by surprise. I wasn't even going 90% on the car yet either... its pathetic.

Could you PM me price for Motul RBF600 + XP10 + XP8?

Zeto · 12-27-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Could you PM me price for Motul RBF600 + XP10 + XP8?

Same here please.

Sharif@Forged · 12-28-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Dont use Super Blue... get Motul RBF600, its a little more, but I have had much much better experiences with the motul than the ATE...

Shariff: My stock pads were working fine on track until I started adding a little pace. They let go suddenly and the car would not stop. It was so sudden that it caught me by surprise. I wasn't even going 90% on the car yet either... its pathetic.

Could you PM me price for Motul RBF600 + XP10 + XP8?

Yeah, the stock pads are just about every OEM are garbage for track use. At best they feel wooden. The guy driving for this magazine I assume is a pro, or least very experienced. It was a rookie mistake to make, IMHO.

Pricing coming guys!

mkdiehl · 12-28-2009, 10:07 AM

please add me to the pricing list....is it a concensus that going to the track with stock pads is asking for trouble or are we over reacting?

So now to go to the track:
Oil Cooler
Brake pads

Anything else? (for someone that hasn't gone before...so let's not get too crazy)

thanks

12-27-2009, 09:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	So are these car magazines truely unbiased? Or do they have an agenda behind them when they test all these cars? Some love certain cars while some hate the ones the others love. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

12-27-2009, 03:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 53	Hey look, I fared better than that! lol __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

12-27-2009, 03:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sharif@Forged The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 840 Drives: 2009 GT-R, 2010 370Z Rep Power: 18	LOL...definitely more like talent failure. Brake failure...that's a good one. __________________ Sharif@Forgedperformance.com General Manager/Certified Tuner/NASA-PCA-BMWCAA Instructor JRZ RS1's Available NOW...PM me Cobb ProTuner, Uprev ECU Flash, FCON Vpro, Haltech, Motec Certified

12-27-2009, 05:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
pulpz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 281 Drives: 09 PG 370Z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 17	C&D claims it was a hardware failure, while Nissan just says the pad isn't designed for track use. There is no specific statement identifying the hardware component that failed ( i.e. cracked brake pad, ruptured brake line, piston assembly. etc. - so abruptly as C&D claims.) Nissan simply states the brake pads are not designed for track use - implying a position of no liability, not specificity identifying the pad as a failed component. I think until C&D goes into more detail regarding the investigation, I have to call ******** on this as well. __________________ 2016 Cayman GTS 6MT / 2017 Q60 Sport / 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD / 2015 Lexus IS 350 AWD F-Sport (Sold) / 2009 PG 370Z Sport 6MT, (Sold) / 2003 SS 350Z Enthusiast 6MT (Sold)

12-27-2009, 10:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sharif@Forged The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 840 Drives: 2009 GT-R, 2010 370Z Rep Power: 18	We have Carbotechs in stock. It's pretty much all we use at the track. It's also rotor and street friendly as well, unlike many race pads. My point about the brake failure, is that even a semi-experienced amateur driver would recognize quickly that the OEM pad is not suited for track use, and adjust his driving accordingly. Blaming the brake pad or braking system is a poor excuse, especially for a professional magazine. __________________ Sharif@Forgedperformance.com General Manager/Certified Tuner/NASA-PCA-BMWCAA Instructor JRZ RS1's Available NOW...PM me Cobb ProTuner, Uprev ECU Flash, FCON Vpro, Haltech, Motec Certified

12-27-2009, 09:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 41 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 268	I love how they think they were the reason for the release of the new track pad

12-27-2009, 03:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mercennarius Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 160 Drives: Nissan Rep Power: 17	Lame... These pads should be standard on all Nismo/track package 370Zs. C&D sucks at driving.

12-27-2009, 10:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	I was on track a while ago when the brakes failed on me. If I had not had a run off area, I would have crashed the car. Its the pads...

12-27-2009, 10:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Dont use Super Blue... get Motul RBF600, its a little more, but I have had much much better experiences with the motul than the ATE... Shariff: My stock pads were working fine on track until I started adding a little pace. They let go suddenly and the car would not stop. It was so sudden that it caught me by surprise. I wasn't even going 90% on the car yet either... its pathetic. Could you PM me price for Motul RBF600 + XP10 + XP8? Last edited by RCZ; 12-27-2009 at 10:36 PM.

12-28-2009, 10:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
mkdiehl Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 30 Drives: '10 PG/Persm 370z Rep Power: 17	please add me to the pricing list....is it a concensus that going to the track with stock pads is asking for trouble or are we over reacting? So now to go to the track: Oil Cooler Brake pads Anything else? (for someone that hasn't gone before...so let's not get too crazy) thanks Last edited by mkdiehl; 12-28-2009 at 10:13 AM.

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