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Btw guys, in case I didn't make it clear. I won't be going through the dealership when it comes to financing. I am going to go through a credit union.

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Old 06-10-2016, 08:38 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Btw guys, in case I didn't make it clear. I won't be going through the dealership when it comes to financing. I am going to go through a credit union. My credit is excellent and I believe I can get a interest rate of around 2-3% for 84 months with a monthly note of $650 at the most. Still, sounds like a bad idea?
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An 84 month car note will always sound like a bad idea.
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Lol, yeah, I guess so.
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Old 06-11-2016, 08:46 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Hard to beat a 520+hp v8 that revs to 8250rpm and handles like a race car. If you don't get the R model you'll also have back seats.
Except it limits how many times you can actually rev to that redline. Which is ridiculous. Why have that as a redline if the car will force a limp mode , not allowing it more than a couple of times an hour? They're also popping those engines like popcorn over on the mustang6g forums, so doesn't appear very reliable.

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Im afraid the service writer at the dealership did not have a clue about a single aspect of my car lol. i explained what it was and that it was there to protect the tranny from overheating by limiting the revs to 5000 till it cools down etc. The reply was " Its highly unlikely that your revs were limited due to the tranny getting hot nor have we ever heard of such a situation". I thought great..just f#@#$#@ great.I canceled the oil change they were going to do at that point as well. Take it to my buddys place . He has a lift and builds race cars. Guess I will just ask for a printout from the computer .
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Don't do it.... 84 months is way too long. You'll change your mind before you reach the halfway point
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I understand extending duration to drive down the monthly payment but jeebus don't do 84 months, and I highly doubt a bank will do 84 months at 2-3%, more like just short of 4%
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An 84 month car note will always sound like a bad idea.
I'm a car guy through and through, but that's not a car payment it's a mortgage!
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Well guys, if everything goes through just fine once I get back for my federal law enforcement training, I'll be getting a Black 2014 370z Nismo with 1000 miles. Made my decision.
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As a guy who owned a sport/touring Z and a NISMO Z I would tell you that for the money you would spend on a 2014 Z or 2015 Challenger there are much better cars to buy. The Z is heavily dated at this point and not worth buying unless you don't care about having dated tech. If it were me I'd be looking at a new Camaro SS or Mustang. Don't get me wrong, the Z is an awesome car, but compared to other options it's very dated with regard to performance and inside tech.
Honestly, who cares about this?

The Z, dated or not is a proven design that works great and you know damn well will last years without issue, even if you hammer on it on a daily basis.

All of these new American muscle cars are like the old ones. They just rely on brute force to get them down the road. No style, no refinement, no quality, no character. They're getting better at maneuvering through corners, but still not great, except maybe the latest Z06 Vette. The interior styling in all of them suck (cheap, fake plastic chrome, carbon fiber, aluminum look), the exterior on most of them suck, again with the exception of the Vette, although the ***-end of the new Vettes are horrible.

The Z on the other hand, as well as just about every other Japanese and European car has great styling, quality and refinement as well as being quite capable of going through corners very well.

Granted, the new Mustangs are great looking cars and are supposed to be pretty good in the corners as well (and the new 5.0 sounds excellent). I was actually considering one before getting the Z, but after sitting in a new Mustang and touching/looking at that nasty interior was more than enough for me to happily go with the Z.
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Well guys, if everything goes through just fine once I get back for my federal law enforcement training, I'll be getting a Black 2014 370z Nismo with 1000 miles. Made my decision.
You made the right choice! Honestly, you made the only choice as far as I'm concerned!
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Honestly, who cares about this?
I agree. People can't quit magazine racing, driving around thinking "Oh my car traps 107 in the quarter mile, yours only does 103" or feeling secure in the fact that their car is .1 seconds quicker to 60 MPH (as tested by someone who probably drives much better than them).

The numbers are much better on the Mustang; skid pad, 1/4 mile, horsepower, torque, etc. but drive them both, it's a completely different experience.

The Mustang is heavy, the steering is slow and numb, there is lots of body roll due to the soft suspension. It goes like hell when you drop the hammer, and it corners well, but it's a GT car through and through.

The Z... Well, it's a better sports coupe. Tight, connected, great feedback.

I'd rather take the Mustang on a 1000 mile drive but if I'm driving just for fun it's definitely not the best choice for me. Unless you can't drive and just want to mash the gas in a straight line (or halfway through a turn exiting Cars and Coffee) or you are actually getting paid to set record lap times, I can't see how it would be for anyone looking for a driver's car*, but maybe that's just me.


*I mean a driver's car, not a magazine racer's car.
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Except it limits how many times you can actually rev to that redline. Which is ridiculous. Why have that as a redline if the car will force a limp mode , not allowing it more than a couple of times an hour? They're also popping those engines like popcorn over on the mustang6g forums, so doesn't appear very reliable.

LIMP MODE WHILE OUT FOR A DRIVE IN THE COUNTRY - Page 7 - 2015+ S550 Mustang Forum (GT, GT350, GT500, Mach 1, Ecoboost) - Mustang6G.com
Z does close to the same thing, if you decide to have fun with it .'/

it looks like the mustang guys are hoping ford will recall and install a oil cooler..GL mustang owners
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I agree. People can't quit magazine racing, driving around thinking "Oh my car traps 107 in the quarter mile, yours only does 103" or feeling secure in the fact that their car is .1 seconds quicker to 60 MPH (as tested by someone who probably drives much better than them).

The numbers are much better on the Mustang; skid pad, 1/4 mile, horsepower, torque, etc. but drive them both, it's a completely different experience.

The Mustang is heavy, the steering is slow and numb, there is lots of body roll due to the soft suspension. It goes like hell when you drop the hammer, and it corners well, but it's a GT car through and through.

The Z... Well, it's a better sports coupe. Tight, connected, great feedback.

I'd rather take the Mustang on a 1000 mile drive but if I'm driving just for fun it's definitely not the best choice for me. Unless you can't drive and just want to mash the gas in a straight line (or halfway through a turn exiting Cars and Coffee) or you are actually getting paid to set record lap times, I can't see how it would be for anyone looking for a driver's car*, but maybe that's just me.


*I mean a driver's car, not a magazine racer's car.
Was having this chat with some of the young guys in my club last night. Horsepower isn't every thing and magazine numbers aren't always repeatable. Which then led to a discussion on brakes and suspension which not a single one had thought about while trying to build HP. It was actually one of the more productive meetings we have had.
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Made the purchase, the car will be here Friday. I'll post a new intro thread with some pics from the ad and then post more pics once the car gets here!
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as an owner of the Z. i would advice you to take the dodge chalenger SRT

Why : 1/challenger can be a daily car because high clearance. (you will get alot of trouble with 370z low clearance, especially the nismo version.)

2/holly 6. v8 engine (7 years already since the 3.7 v6 released.)

3/ dat challenger *** tail light is such a b*tch

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But i suggest you to invest money on a vette .
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