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As someone who has spent a considerable amount of time in the auto industry, Chrysler products are the worst garbage one could ask for on such a competitive market. How

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Old 11-25-2016, 08:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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As someone who has spent a considerable amount of time in the auto industry, Chrysler products are the worst garbage one could ask for on such a competitive market. How they've managed to stay afloat is beyond me.
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That is why I did not buy the Challenger.
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the srt is a different leage than the 370z, if the prices are close get the challenger
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the srt is a different leage than the 370z, if the prices are close get the challenger
Eh, not really. The Z(Non-Nismo) is rated at 10.1 lbs per HP versus the Challenger SRT8 which 8.9 lbs per HP. The Z will absolutely smoke a Challenger in a Auto-X or Road Course as the Challenger is just too much of a pig.
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Eh, not really. The Z(Non-Nismo) is rated at 10.1 lbs per HP versus the Challenger SRT8 which 8.9 lbs per HP. The Z will absolutely smoke a Challenger in a Auto-X or Road Course as the Challenger is just too much of a pig.
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An excellent case in point is the relationship between a vehicle's curb weight and its power and torque outputs. The oft-referenced power-to-weight ratio has always made more sense to me when expressed as weight-to-power, where I can see exactly how many pounds each horsepower (or pound-foot of torque) is being asked to lug.

Directly from: Top performance car power-to-weight ratios under $100k, $50k and $25k - Autoblog
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As you can see in the lists on that site: the lower the number usually means the faster accelerating car, thus in this case, it appears the challenger outpulls the 370z just based on the stats you posted unless I don't understand correctly. Don't get me wrong, though, I'd take the 370z over the challenger any day......I just like refinement of the suspension more than brute force...
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Isn't it the other way around?

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An excellent case in point is the relationship between a vehicle's curb weight and its power and torque outputs. The oft-referenced power-to-weight ratio has always made more sense to me when expressed as weight-to-power, where I can see exactly how many pounds each horsepower (or pound-foot of torque) is being asked to lug.

Directly from: Top performance car power-to-weight ratios under $100k, $50k and $25k - Autoblog
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As you can see in the lists on that site: the lower the number usually means the faster accelerating car, thus in this case, it appears the challenger outpulls the 370z just based on the stats you posted unless I don't understand correctly. Don't get me wrong, though, I'd take the 370z over the challenger any day......I just like refinement of the suspension more than brute force...
Oh no, you are correct. I was saying that the difference is really not all that much in power to weight ratio. The Z's lighter weight will allow it to enter the corners far faster and while the Mopar may have marginally better power to weight it will be a bear in a race that requires cornering speed. In a drag showdown the SRT would beat the Z but in a Road Race or Auto-X the Z would dominate the SRT. I mean if you look at Auto-X, one of the top dominator in it is the MX5.
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Personally, I wouldn't get the Challenger 392. But I would get the Charger 392. That is a sick car and handles better than the Challenger... Not that it's hard to do that
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He's not necessarily wrong. The Challenger apparently can be a second faster, judging by these times, for each:

For those that are wondering, stock 392 Challenger times - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com

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Like I said before, it all boils down to the driver. However, it doesn't matter to me as I would still take the Z before any of the others mentioned here.
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I sold my 2005 GTO. Now it's time to look for a new or used 370Z.
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I measure it by "Oh Wow!"'s per lunch outing as I don't really race the Zed (yet)...

The Z gets, on average, three more Oh Wow's per lunch trip than my co-worker's 392 Challenger every time... And heaven help me if someone pulls up next to the Z and asks me about it; that puts him in a funk all day.

I chalk it up to my Nismo being the only one I've ever seen in east Denver, and Challengers being present at nearly every 4-way stop out here. And I see similar results between the Z and another co-worker's C63 AMG - he'd fair better though if we had a larger sample size, but the AMG lives in the shop...

Really, the only car here at work that beats the Z in wow-factor is my CFO's dropped and blown 1968 Camaro - but that's not really a fair comparison.
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The new vette has engine failures, overheats and looks like azz compared to a C6 which is rock solid and has no issues. Stay away form the C6 z06 however it has valve train issues. Stick with the LS3 engine. If your still thinking about a Dodge Challenger SRT8....I just sold my Dodge Challenger Hellcat and got a 2013 Nismo....the Dodge Challenger is a boat, handles horribly, its long, heavy, wide...I hated it, felt like a big luxury car that went fast...sold it after owning it around 3 to 5 months...Nismo is small, agile, refined, RELIABLE, looks 10 times better than the new vette or Challeger.... all that and it costs LESS!?! A true enthusiasts drivers car ...not a show off hotwheels looking car like a new vette or challenger...
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