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Originally Posted by Magic Bus Yup, definitely not the same vision as when the original Z was created. However times have changed and unless they’re going to manufacture in China

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Old 10-22-2017, 05:58 AM   #3826 (permalink)
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Yup, definitely not the same vision as when the original Z was created. However times have changed and unless they’re going to manufacture in China or a very poor country, their prices are going to be in line with all the other top notch sports cars.

I’ve owned my M2 for 4 months now, and if the Z is faster plus drives the same or better than the M2, I’d have no objection if it’s in the $55k range.
If the next Z is offered in 3 different options just like the common rumor that's been going around, it will no doubt put its competition to shame. Those 3 options are 300 hp under-tuned TTV6, 400 hp TTV6, and 500 hp TTV6 hybrid.

It is well known that both of the TTV6 options are underrated in power. The 300 hp trim likely has around that much in wheel horsepower, not just bhp. The 400 hp version rates just slightly below 400 whp. This means a 370 whp Z35 will have about 430-440 bhp. That power figure puts it right under power levels of current SS and GT editions, except at 400-500 pounds lighter. The power to weight ratio of the next Z will blow the competition away, including with the help of a dual clutch transmission.

While the competition will improve right when or slightly after the next Z is released, that power-weight combo is still tough to beat. Having a twin turbo setup allows the car to be easily tuned for higher power to keep ahead of the competition, if needed. The main flaw of 350Z and 370Z is they are naturally aspirated. They cannot be easily upgraded in an affordable and profitable way for a cheap company like Nissan . With forced induction and potentially electric motors coming, that flaw no longer holds back the next Z car.

So no, there is no need to worry about Z35 being slower than M2, M3, GT, SS, or whatever. Nothing with a gas engine near its price will beat it. It will even take on cars at 10k-20k higher in price.

I just hope we get to see at least one more model of the Z until the entire world is overrun by electric and self-driving cars.

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Old 10-22-2017, 11:03 AM   #3827 (permalink)
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What zs-carpenter said has given me hope. I can’t imagine Nissan 1) celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Z with the same car they celebrated the 40th anniversary with and 2) not having a Z to celebrate with at all. Maybe we will get a surprise this week or at least some positive news.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:57 AM   #3828 (permalink)
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The hints, of such concepts not showing up, are there. Why would Nissan update the R35 just for 2017, only to release the R36 in 2018 or 2019?

By the same token, why would Nissan make updates for 2018 sport trims and above, as well as design heritage edition for the base trim, only to gut their current Z34 sales by unveiling a Z35 concept now?
Indeed the GT-R was a bigger facelift with real tuning.

The 370Z though, that was just swapping paint for a few parts. Remember they did an even bigger upgrade for the last two years of the 350Z.
Somehow, espacially the Heritage just feels like Nissan has to get rid of stock of base model parts.


Anyway I'd still be surprise to see a new Z in Tokyo at all.
I am now just sitting here and waiting for the IDS concept to become a real production car to replace my Focus.
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“The real star of the show for Nissan, however, remains under wraps. Internal sources are being extremely tight-lipped.

What it will not be is the much rumoured replacement for the 370Z. Even in concept form that vehicles is still some time away.”
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^^^ Boooooo ~Fake news! I wish
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Could they end the z? I don't want the z to die. But it seems like Nissan doesn't care about the z anymore. Waiting for the Tokyo auto show to finally give up on Nissan or not.
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From some of the rumors I am hearing, Nissan is going 'big' with electric this year.
Many of the cars will be electric versions or current models or variations of the Leaf, CUV leaf, Nismo leaf, etc.
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From some of the rumors I am hearing, Nissan is going 'big' with electric this year.
Many of the cars will be electric versions or current models or variations of the Leaf, CUV leaf, Nismo leaf, etc.
Just to add.
Electric is the new kid on the block. Look at the number of countries, and companies that will be totally electric by 2030's. Gas is dying a quick death. So why would it make sense for a company to bring out a new gas engine car. It don't. Writing is on the wall, and companies are seeing it.

What gets me about going electric is that we don't have enough electric generation now to handle the increase in demand. So now we will have to build new power plants that will increase emissions. What we will lose in emissions from the electric cars, will be replaced from the new power plants. It's a no win deal. With electric cars. No more driving across the country. It will take too long to recharge the batteries to make it reasonable. Cars will be limited to about 200 mile round trips. They are trying to make it so that you HAVE to take public transportion. They are trying to get rid of the car all together.
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Just to add.
Electric is the new kid on the block. Look at the number of countries, and companies that will be totally electric by 2030's. Gas is dying a quick death. So why would it make sense for a company to bring out a new gas engine car. It don't. Writing is on the wall, and companies are seeing it.

What gets me about going electric is that we don't have enough electric generation now to handle the increase in demand. So now we will have to build new power plants that will increase emissions. What we will lose in emissions from the electric cars, will be replaced from the new power plants. It's a no win deal. With electric cars. No more driving across the country. It will take too long to recharge the batteries to make it reasonable. Cars will be limited to about 200 mile round trips. They are trying to make it so that you HAVE to take public transportion. They are trying to get rid of the car all together.
Well, you are right about the push for electric. I do think we are at least a decade away from electric being the prominent cars on the market. Honda and Toyota are both committed to electric yet they are also still developing new, exciting gas powered sports cars. If I were to buy an electric car, I would want to buy it from the company that still values sportiness and makes cars that please those that enjoy driving. I would not buy an electric car from a company that has nothing but electric SUVs made to please Moms driving car pools.

Come on Nissan....
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Just to add.
Electric is the new kid on the block. Look at the number of countries, and companies that will be totally electric by 2030's. Gas is dying a quick death. So why would it make sense for a company to bring out a new gas engine car. It don't. Writing is on the wall, and companies are seeing it.

What gets me about going electric is that we don't have enough electric generation now to handle the increase in demand. So now we will have to build new power plants that will increase emissions. What we will lose in emissions from the electric cars, will be replaced from the new power plants. It's a no win deal. With electric cars. No more driving across the country. It will take too long to recharge the batteries to make it reasonable. Cars will be limited to about 200 mile round trips. They are trying to make it so that you HAVE to take public transportion. They are trying to get rid of the car all together.
Now if you want to be a REAL conspiracy theorist...

Limited range on electric cars makes it easier to control the movement of the population. The government can easily round up the malcontents because we can't get more than 200 miles away....
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What gets me about going electric is that we don't have enough electric generation now to handle the increase in demand. So now we will have to build new power plants that will increase emissions. What we will lose in emissions from the electric cars, will be replaced from the new power plants. It's a no win deal. With electric cars. No more driving across the country. It will take too long to recharge the batteries to make it reasonable. Cars will be limited to about 200 mile round trips. They are trying to make it so that you HAVE to take public transportion. They are trying to get rid of the car all together.

Sooo you mean to tell me the hole want to take the family on vacation is going to be out the window soon?





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Now if you want to be a REAL conspiracy theorist...

Limited range on electric cars makes it easier to control the movement of the population. The government can easily round up the malcontents because we can't get more than 200 miles away....
If you REALLY want to get deep in it. Try Agenda 21. And this is a part of it. Controlling the masses, and depopulation.

The older I get, with the background that I have. The more of the pieces I see falling together on some stuff. And there is stuff that they WILL NOT tell us.
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If you REALLY want to get deep in it. Try Agenda 21. And this is a part of it. Controlling the masses, and depopulation.

The older I get, with the background that I have. The more of the pieces I see falling together on some stuff. And there is stuff that they WILL NOT tell us.
I know what you mean.... that's why getting to my fallback position involves a bit of a hike....


We better get back on topic before Trips comes in and smacks us....
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I’ve about given up on Nissan.......this is not exciting.....

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I don't know, maybe they hid a Z concept right under our noses!

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