[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-17-2020, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 2017370ZBlack

Toyota is apparently going to want $40K for the new 4-cylinder turbo 255 HP Supra model, which even comes with cheap brakes. No way Nissan will price a Z in the $20's for a car that is made in Japan. Start around $29,995 might be doable if they do come out with a less powered version.

On top of that, the next gen 86 will be out with a whopping 220 n/a hp and will start close 30k.
Nissan could easily sell the 300hp engine for 34k easily and eat some power junkie 86 sales.
But instead we getting an extra 100hp for a couple grand more. Seems like a good deal to me...
Waiting to get the weight and dimensions of the Z to see how much of a deal we are getting.
Seems most are only worried bout hp n price. Can the chassis even hold the hp? Let's see.

JARblue · 06-18-2020, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Can the chassis even hold the hp?

You really think Nissan put R&D into a new chassis for this car? I would guess it's just a slightly modified Z34 chassis if it's modified at all.

Neo2070 · 06-19-2020, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

55k. It's a nissan. Nissan is already having money issues. Hell the gtr is way over priced.
That's one of many problems Nissan's having. And QC too.
Nismo Z maybe. But that's pushing it imo.
They need to have the 4cyn Z in the 20+k for sure and than go up from there.
But we shall c. They hve to price it right but they need to step up on the QC too.

I'll be in my bunk!

20's for the new 4 cylinder Z (if they even make one) ...no way! won't happen.
The 2021 Supra just announced price for their 4 cylinder model and it's MSRP is over $40,000!

OptionZero · 06-17-2020, 03:39 PM

brake cooling would seem to be relatively simple. there isn't anything wrong with the existing akebono setup, just design the bumpers to have ventilation that works

Arvada · 06-17-2020, 07:59 PM

NRTim · 06-18-2020, 07:44 PM

This is a render I can get behind, very interested to see what the actual Nismo model looks like.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...like-this/amp/

sunkist350z · 06-18-2020, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NRTim

This is a render I can get behind, very interested to see what the actual Nismo model looks like.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...like-this/amp/

I hope it looks like this, finally can get one of my favorite sports car design the Jaguar F-type but the affordable Japanese version lol

Ventruck · 06-18-2020, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NRTim

This is a render I can get behind, very interested to see what the actual Nismo model looks like.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...like-this/amp/

It's one of the more accurate-looking ones based on the teaser. Generally might be exaggerating most cues, though.

I'm not expecting that front lip area to be so sharply-cut, though, as well as the side vents, which I have a feeling will do absolutely nothing. Grill is probably going to be more under the leading edge. The creases are a bit much and I wouldn't expect that front fender cut. Mirrors are too small and angled more than the teaser. Wheels of course just copy+paste, but the artist set the proportions too large albeit for artistic sake.

I say this hoping it's true because I think the car would look way better. Each to their own though. The general silhouette is exciting.

DIGItonium · 06-25-2020, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NRTim

This is a render I can get behind, very interested to see what the actual Nismo model looks like.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...like-this/amp/

Hmm... in this render the front end reminds me of a cross between an Aston Martin and a Ford Focus. It doesn't give me any Z vibes.

OptionZero · 06-19-2020, 10:51 AM

Even the BRZ was pushing 30k

I am curious how the development costs for the Z and the Supra compare. Toyota essentially punted the development of a new chassis by licensing an existing one and fine tuning some stuff. Nissan *appears* to be cost cutting but . . . not developing a new chassis at all. Maybe we get a couple upgraded components, or maybe even the same components with better materials.

I'm sure they still have to crash test it again with the feds, and then the new engine/chassis combo needs to go through all the emissions crap

NISMO IX · 06-20-2020, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

Even the BRZ was pushing 30k

I am curious how the development costs for the Z and the Supra compare. Toyota essentially punted the development of a new chassis by licensing an existing one and fine tuning some stuff. Nissan *appears* to be cost cutting but . . . not developing a new chassis at all. Maybe we get a couple upgraded components, or maybe even the same components with better materials.

I'm sure they still have to crash test it again with the feds, and then the new engine/chassis combo needs to go through all the emissions crap

They never crash tested the Z34. Only the Z33.

280driver · 06-20-2020, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

They never crash tested the Z34. Only the Z33.

It’s accentually a Q60/370Z love child with tweaks so it probably won’t have to go through federal emissions stuff or crash testing.

JARblue · 06-20-2020, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

They never crash tested the Z34. Only the Z33.

NISMO IX · 06-21-2020, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

lol that's not true

Find the crash test ratings for the Z34, I've looked. If I am wrong I'll own the fault, but I have not found any. NHTSA.gov has none.

Edit: They have crash tested the G37, from what I was told second hand. They are still all on the FM platform, including Z33, Z34.

JARblue · 06-21-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

Find the crash test ratings for the Z34, I've looked. If I am wrong I'll own the fault, but I have not found any. NHTSA.gov has none.

Edit: They have crash tested the G37, from what I was told second hand. They are still all on the FM platform, including Z33, Z34.

A little research reveals that most vehicles that are crash tested meet minimum sales figures. The 370Z is such a low volume vehicle that it was not performed.

Why does the 370 not have any safety ratings?
Crash Test Ratings?

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Originally Posted by dad

"Your right", I just found this!

The 370 is not a high volume seller!

Some Models Are Not Rated

If the model you seek is missing crash-test results, they may be pending or the vehicle may not be tested. Both agencies concentrate on the "highest-volume vehicles". Convertibles are rarely tested for this reason, though for the first time in 2007 IIHS tested 10 models, including several best-sellers like the Chrysler Sebring and Ford Mustang. Results for new or recently reengineered models are likely to appear months after the car goes on sale because both agencies purchase their test subjects from dealerships. NHTSA notes if a vehicle is TBT (to be tested) or if results are pending or under review. IIHS has begun to offer more detailed information about whether or not test results are pending.

Crash Tests: What You Need to Know - Cars.com

So owners are the crash test dummies like in this video:

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Originally Posted by Waiz

I haven't seen anything yet, so here's a 370z crashing into the wall at VIR

06-17-2020, 03:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,270 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214101	brake cooling would seem to be relatively simple. there isn't anything wrong with the existing akebono setup, just design the bumpers to have ventilation that works __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

06-19-2020, 10:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,270 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214101	Even the BRZ was pushing 30k I am curious how the development costs for the Z and the Supra compare. Toyota essentially punted the development of a new chassis by licensing an existing one and fine tuning some stuff. Nissan appears to be cost cutting but . . . not developing a new chassis at all. Maybe we get a couple upgraded components, or maybe even the same components with better materials. I'm sure they still have to crash test it again with the feds, and then the new engine/chassis combo needs to go through all the emissions crap __________________ OptionZero Build Thread Last edited by OptionZero; 06-19-2020 at 10:54 AM.

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