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m4a1mustang 01-02-2012 12:04 PM

Hey BZ, I replied to your PM. I don't own the P2000SK but I have some experience with it and really like it. If I didn't like my Glock 26 so much I might have bought one of those. Unfortunately I don't have any experience with the P30 so I can't compare.

MacCool 01-02-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1472517)
I wanted to get some opinions about two models of H&Ks. I will be using it for a concealed carry firearm and most likely get an IWB holster. The two models I am considering are the P30 and the P2000SK. Right now I am favoring the P2000SK since it is about a half inch shorter.

Which one would your recommend?

Between those two, for concealed carry, I'd get the P2000SK. Its form factor makes it more suitable for that purpose. It's important that you actually handle both the P2000SK and the P30 though...there's a significant difference in the grip ergonomics. Some people like one and hate the other, and vice-versa. Personally, I prefer the P30's grip, but for concealed carry (which I rarely do) I went with the much smaller and thinner Walther PPS in 9mm. I didn't care for the Glock 26, nor the M&P 9c...grip was too fat and too short for me to be comfortable with.

BlackZeda 01-02-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1472540)
Between those two, for concealed carry, I'd get the P2000SK. Its form factor makes it more suitable for that purpose. It's important that you actually handle both the P2000SK and the P30 though...there's a significant difference in the grip ergonomics. Some people like one and hate the other, and vice-versa. Personally, I prefer the P30's grip, but for concealed carry (which I rarely do) I went with the much smaller and thinner Walther PPS in 9mm. I didn't care for the Glock 26, nor the M&P 9c...grip was too fat and too short for me to be comfortable with.

Unfortunately it seems that no one around town has P30s in stock, and the grip options are really appealing. On the other hand I have found a couple P2000SKs for really good prices around town, so I am at least going to check them out. I understand that the P2000SK does have adjustable grip options as well (which it at least has that on a Glock).

Since it is so small and I have a second concealed carry class this weekend (and I don't hate it) I might just pick it up today. I love my Full size USP .45 and .40SW and am planning on picking up a HK45 sometime this year, so I don't think it would be a bad move to get the P2000SK in any case as you can see I am a big fan of H&Ks!

Thanks for the feedback fellas...I will let you know how it turns out!

MacCool 01-02-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1472550)
Unfortunately it seems that no one around town has P30s in stock, and the grip options are really appealing. On the other hand I have found a couple P2000SKs for really good prices around town, so I am at least going to check them out. I understand that the P2000SK does have adjustable grip options as well (which it at least has that on a Glock).

Since it is so small and I have a second concealed carry class this weekend (and I don't hate it) I might just pick it up today. I love my Full size USP .45 and .40SW and am planning on picking up a HK45 sometime this year, so I don't think it would be a bad move to get the P2000SK in any case as you can see I am a big fan of H&Ks!

Thanks for the feedback fellas...I will let you know how it turns out!

If you're comfortable with the grip, the P2000SK is a good pistol and will serve you well. Try to avoid the LEM trigger option. One tip, get plenty of magazines. They're notorious for being expensive and hard to get, and may get more so as the presidential election heats up if it looks like BO is getting the edge. Some of their earlier magazines had spring problems. IIRC, you can use USP mags, although they stick out at the bottom.

BlackZeda 01-03-2012 07:38 PM

So something interesting happened at the gun store. I decided I couldn't part my my H&K USP .40SW which oddly gave me the-skys-the-limit attitude :)

There was a used .40SW LEM P2000SK for $629 and a new .40SW DA/SA P2000SK for $829. Didn't like the LEM version at all and then I saw the HK45C! OMG, what a beautiful piece of ballistic art...I almost bought it right there even though it was $1039. Resisting the urge to make an impulse purchase I decided to wait till tomorrow and sleep on it as it is about the same size as a Glock compact.

When walking out I noticed that in the 9mm case there was a used DA/SA P2000SK which looked like it was in really good condition for only $600. I have wanted to own a 9mm for a really long time so it was almost a no brainer. So here she is with another picture of my little H&K family.

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...2000sk-9mm.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...5-usp-40sw.jpg

I am pretty psyched by the purchase and I really like how it sits in my hand after comparing it to a Glock. H&Ks seem to be a bit more "upright" like a 1911. A Glock almost sits like a revolver to me, which I would get used to...not a criticism. It looks like I will be getting an HK45 sometime in the near future.

Thanks for all the input and enjoy the pics!

m4a1mustang 01-03-2012 07:40 PM

Very nice! Congrats. :tup:

ImportConvert 01-04-2012 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1474659)
So something interesting happened at the gun store. I decided I couldn't part my my H&K USP .40SW which oddly gave me the-skys-the-limit attitude :)

There was a used .40SW LEM P2000SK for $629 and a new .40SW DA/SA P2000SK for $829. Didn't like the LEM version at all and then I saw the HK45C! OMG, what a beautiful piece of ballistic art...I almost bought it right there even though it was $1039. Resisting the urge to make an impulse purchase I decided to wait till tomorrow and sleep on it as it is about the same size as a Glock compact.

When walking out I noticed that in the 9mm case there was a used DA/SA P2000SK which looked like it was in really good condition for only $600. I have wanted to own a 9mm for a really long time so it was almost a no brainer. So here she is with another picture of my little H&K family.

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...2000sk-9mm.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...5-usp-40sw.jpg

I am pretty psyched by the purchase and I really like how it sits in my hand after comparing it to a Glock. H&Ks seem to be a bit more "upright" like a 1911. A Glock almost sits like a revolver to me, which I would get used to...not a criticism. It looks like I will be getting an HK45 sometime in the near future.

Thanks for all the input and enjoy the pics!

I love HK's. Very smooth shooting with their recoil system!

nuTinmuch 01-04-2012 12:25 AM

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I would also like to point out a couple other things that may be in play with the declining crime rates:
I don't think so. I think the real reasons won't be revealed for another decade or two, at the very least. History isn't the same as journalism, and until we are politically disconnected from the era, it'll all be seen through a red/blue perspective.

Also, as the resident hyper-liberal, I have to bite my tongue to comply with the forum rules. :p

ImportConvert 01-04-2012 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 1474982)
I don't think so. I think the real reasons won't be revealed for another decade or two, at the very least. History isn't the same as journalism, and until we are politically disconnected from the era, it'll all be seen through a red/blue perspective.

Also, as the resident hyper-liberal, I have to bite my tongue to comply with the forum rules. :p

At least you seem to be a liberal with some brains. *logic defied* :bowrofl:

semtex 01-04-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1474659)
So something interesting happened at the gun store. I decided I couldn't part my my H&K USP .40SW which oddly gave me the-skys-the-limit attitude :)

There was a used .40SW LEM P2000SK for $629 and a new .40SW DA/SA P2000SK for $829. Didn't like the LEM version at all and then I saw the HK45C! OMG, what a beautiful piece of ballistic art...I almost bought it right there even though it was $1039.

A word of warning. I had the HK 45C -- it shot real nice, but it had a real peculiar quirk. Every now and then, it'd fail to c0ck. Like I'd be two or three shots into the magazine, pull the trigger, round is fired, slide goes back and ejects the shell, loads the next round into the chamber, but the hammer returns forward with the slide instead of staying cocked! And it wasn't just my gun either. I friend of mine also had a 45C and it did the same thing! I got rid of that gun because it just wasn't acceptable to me. A shame too, because other than that one peculiarity, they shoot so nicely!

BlackZeda 01-04-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1475173)
A word of warning. I had the HK 45C -- it shot real nice, but it had a real peculiar quirk. Every now and then, it'd fail to c0ck. Like I'd be two or three shots into the magazine, pull the trigger, round is fired, slide goes back and ejects the shell, loads the next round into the chamber, but the hammer returns forward with the slide instead of staying cocked! And it wasn't just my gun either. I friend of mine also had a 45C and it did the same thing! I got rid of that gun because it just wasn't acceptable to me. A shame too, because other than that one peculiarity, they shoot so nicely!

Well now I have to rethink that! Thanks for the info...I will be sure to see if they have addressed that before I make a purchase. Those FN pistols are looking pretty tasty!

That really surpises me that H&K didn't catch that...it would be like Nissan making a car that doesn't start...twice...

semtex 01-04-2012 10:34 AM

FWIW I've had other HKs and they all performed flawlessly. One of my favorites was a .40 cal P2000 SK (LEM). Great little gun.

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...x0/P2000SK.jpg

m4a1mustang 01-04-2012 10:35 AM

You guys are making me want one now.

semtex 01-04-2012 10:49 AM

I miss my Kimber.

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...raCovertII.jpg

MacCool 01-04-2012 03:44 PM

Just picked this rifle up. Kind of a whim purchase...the more I read about .17HMR, the more intrigued I became. Got a Muskrat problem in the non-winter months and have to be careful of ricochets off the water. And my buddy has a pack of coyotes and probably at least one wolf harassing his horses. Can't shoot the wolves, of course :rolleyes: but once I get this new .17HMR Henry scoped, we're going to get out the squealing fawn call and the electronic rabbit and solve the problem.

http://SSEquine.net/henry2s.jpg

This thing has one of the best out-of-the-box triggers I've ever seen on a factory rifle. It's a nice piece of work.

BlackZeda 01-04-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1475283)
I miss my Kimber.

What caliber is that? I was looking at Colt and Kimber 1911s...how does one choose?

semtex 01-04-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1476119)
What caliber is that? I was looking at Colt and Kimber 1911s...how does one choose?

.45 How to choose? Depends on your intended use. If you intend to use it for carry, I'd recommend Kimber as most of their models have frames machined from aluminum, which means less weight. I've been through a lot of Kimbers. The one I have pictured was my all-time favorite. It's the Ultra Covert II.

semtex 01-04-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1475805)
Just picked this rifle up. Kind of a whim purchase...the more I read about .17HMR, the more intrigued I became. Got a Muskrat problem in the non-winter months and have to be careful of ricochets off the water. And my buddy has a pack of coyotes and probably at least one wolf harassing his horses. Can't shoot the wolves, of course :rolleyes: but once I get this new .17HMR Henry scoped, we're going to get out the squealing fawn call and the electronic rabbit and solve the problem.

http://SSEquine.net/henry2s.jpg

This thing has one of the best out-of-the-box triggers I've ever seen on a factory rifle. It's a nice piece of work.

That's a fine looking rifle, sir. :tiphat:

BlackZeda 01-04-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1475805)
Just picked this rifle up...

That sure is a shiny rifle for sure. I almost have to put sunglasses on when looking at the picture. Very nice.

I was reading up on that ammo as well...cool concept. If it weren't for the price of the ammo I would probably have picked up a FN FiveSeven by now. I am sure the .17 hornaday ammo is a LOT more reasonable.

semtex 01-04-2012 08:45 PM

Speaking of FN, have you shot the FNP-45? This used to be my designated nightstand gun. 15 rounds of .45 at the ready.

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...0/P1000326.jpg

BlackZeda 01-04-2012 08:48 PM

I installed the bigger backstrap insert which makes the gun fit even better in my hand. Right now I am dry firing the hell out of it practicing for the DA first round.

After trying a few holsters I punted and bought the one shown. It is a Galco...Is anyone familiar with that brand? Their other holsters were leather and very nice. There is a gun show this weekend so I think I might look for a paddle holster. It is all a moot point as I am still waiting on my concealed handgun permit.

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...co-holster.jpg

BlackZeda 01-04-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1476346)
Speaking of FN, have you shot the FNP-45? This used to be my designated nightstand gun. 15 rounds of .45 at the ready.

<Insert drool smilie here> Haven't shot one, but they always catch my eye. I have seen them with a Trijicon RMR installed which really tips the scales to it. I assume the FN quality is every bit as good as H&K.(?)

Very nice.

mrcoolguyface 01-04-2012 09:32 PM

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My designated nightstand guns. And carry.
(Top) S&W P990L 40 cal.
(bottom) Walther PPS 40 cal. (carry)



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m4a1mustang 01-04-2012 09:33 PM

Galco is one of the bigger names for holsters... they make a ton of stuff.

semtex 01-04-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1476349)
After trying a few holsters I punted and bought the one shown. It is a Galco...Is anyone familiar with that brand?

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1476430)
Galco is one of the bigger names for holsters... they make a ton of stuff.

Agreed. Galco is probably the biggest name when it comes to holsters. Here's their website if you haven't already seen it, BlackZeda: Galco holsters; Holsters; Gun holster, pistol holsters, western holsters, shoulder holsters, leather holster and Glock holsters

I personally carried with a Crossbreed QwikClip holster though. I also had a SuperTuck. And you might also want to look at Comp-Tac's line. I had a bunch of those as well (the Infidel, in particular).

Crossbreed Holsters > Home
Comp-Tac : Top-Quality Firearm Accessories

m4a1mustang 01-04-2012 09:56 PM

I'm a big fan of the Comp-Tac stuff. I carry my G26 in an MTAC holster that I absolutely love.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...252520MTAC.jpg

BlackZeda 01-05-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mrcoolguyface (Post 1476428)
My designated nightstand guns. And carry.
(Top) S&W P990L 40 cal.
(bottom) Walther PPS 40 cal. (carry)



Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk

Damn! I feel sorry for the fool that breaks into your house when you are home. Dual-wielding Matrix-style smackdown for him!

BlackZeda 01-05-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1476461)
Agreed. Galco is probably the biggest name when it comes to holsters. Here's their website if you haven't already seen it, BlackZeda: Galco holsters; Holsters; Gun holster, pistol holsters, western holsters, shoulder holsters, leather holster and Glock holsters

I personally carried with a Crossbreed QwikClip holster though. I also had a SuperTuck. And you might also want to look at Comp-Tac's line. I had a bunch of those as well (the Infidel, in particular).

Crossbreed Holsters > Home
Comp-Tac : Top-Quality Firearm Accessories

Galco...check.
Crossbreed...check.
Comp-Tac...check.

It is good to have knowledge before going into one of these goofy gun shows. Otherwise you will be stuck there for hours with all the smelly gun-nerds that don't take showers...You guys know the type :)

Although suprisingly there is the occasional super-smoking hot gun-chick wearing the tight jeans and spaghetti string tank top walking around (with their Marine or Neo-Nazi boyfriend :( ).

m4a1mustang 01-05-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1477106)
Galco...check.
Crossbreed...check.
Comp-Tac...check.

It is good to have knowledge before going into one of these goofy gun shows. Otherwise you will be stuck there for hours with all the smelly gun-nerds that don't take showers...You guys know the type :)

Although suprisingly there is the occasional super-smoking hot gun-chick wearing the tight jeans and spaghetti string tank top walking around (with their Marine or Neo-Nazi boyfriend :( ).

I agree, especially about that last part. :( There are some really weird corners of the gun show here. Probably not safe for an Asian like me. :p:p:p

BlackZeda 01-05-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1477117)
I agree, especially about that last part. :( There are some really weird corners of the gun show here. Probably not safe for an Asian like me. :p:p:p

Really, in Virginia...That's suprising! [/SARCASM]

mrcoolguyface 01-05-2012 11:55 AM

Lol...
 
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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1477085)
Damn! I feel sorry for the fool that breaks into your house when you are home. Dual-wielding Matrix-style smackdown for him!

Yeah, can never be too safe lol... I like to leave one home too for her, when Im out and carrying.

semtex 01-05-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1477106)
It is good to have knowledge before going into one of these goofy gun shows. Otherwise you will be stuck there for hours with all the smelly gun-nerds that don't take showers...You guys know the type :)

Like this guy? :bowrofl:

http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/fil...something2.jpg

BlackZeda 01-05-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1477290)
Like this guy? :bowrofl:

I think it is the perfect opportunity for me to use this smilie for the first time:
:roflpuke2:

wstar 01-05-2012 01:44 PM

^ awesome :)

I like Comp-Tac myself, I've used several of their IWB holsters over the years for Glocks.

MacCool 01-07-2012 09:11 AM

This video was too cool. It prompted me to order up some Piney Mountain tracer ammo.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7CPUu8CKk8

BlackZeda 01-07-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1480072)
This video was too cool. It prompted me to order up some Piney Mountain tracer ammo.

That is a really cool video. You can't beat a Ruger 10/22 for inexpensive plinking fun...the tracers are just the icing on the cake! For one case of .223 ammo you could buy a 10/22 and a whole bunch of .22LR ammo.

m4a1mustang 01-07-2012 12:13 PM

Ugh I wish I had land like that to shoot on.

MacCool 01-07-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1480170)
That is a really cool video. You can't beat a Ruger 10/22 for inexpensive plinking fun...the tracers are just the icing on the cake! For one case of .223 ammo you could buy a 10/22 and a whole bunch of .22LR ammo.

Or for a huge range of mods. It can be more addictive than building/modifying AR15's.

m4a1mustang 01-07-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1480214)
Or for a huge range of mods. It can be more addictive than building/modifying AR15's.

And a lot cheaper!

travisjb 01-08-2012 04:00 PM

Question for you guys... I own zero guns today but have thought about getting into it... if/when I buy, thinking about getting an auto-load rifle and semi-auto pistol that use the same ammo. Wondering what you guys think about this...

perhaps either .22 LR or 9mm... if I go with .22 LR, was thinking about these two: Ruger SR-22 Autoloading Rifle, Ruger Mark III Hunter Rimfire Pistol Models

for 9mm, haven't really done enough research to have an opinion... maybe 9mm glock or sig p226 paired with 9mm CX4 Storm or Kel Tec Sub 2000 as discussed here: Kel Tec Sub 2000 9MM-Anyone have experience with these? - THR

Thoughts? What am I missing? Any recommendations? Thanks!!


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