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MacCool 01-12-2012 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1487887)
Speaking of gas-piston ARs....I watch this goofy show "Sons of Guns" where the last episode they were designing a revolutionary AR that was as dependable as an AK for the DOE. Yes they milled out their own receivers, but it looks like they just ordered a gas-piston from another manufacturer. It's like they don't expect gun-nuts to know that the H&K 416 or ACR or SCAR have been out for awhile now.

To call "Sons of Guns" a "goofy show" is being excessively kind, IMHO.

tvfreakazoid 01-13-2012 02:46 AM

They should of thrown in the AK as well. It would of been nice to know how it would of done against the AR's.

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1487887)
I checked out that site and wandered into the uppers section and noticed they have a full upper for $545. My first thought was "that's a pretty good deal". Then I checked out other gas-piston complete upper offerings from other manufacturers; a Bushmaster goes for around $1100 and a LWRC is almost $2000...Just for the upper! I have read the this about 5 times now thinking "what's the catch"?:

Huldra » Uppers » Huldra 5.56x45 Mid-Length Complete Upper

If that is indeed a full gas-piston upper, it is cheap enough just to give it a try at some point!

As far as the advantage of a gas-piston AR system, I recalled some study the military performed comparing the M4 to newer gas-piston rifles:

Newer carbines outperform M4 in dust test - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

I tend to agree with you...big whoop. There really isn't a chance that I will be getting rid of my Bushmasters even though some people want to convince me that they are going to blow up and take out anyone withing a 50ft. radius the next shot I take with them. To me it is all about maintenance and what gun you have in your hands. All my ARs have FailZero BCGs and even before that I don't recall a single stoppage.

On the other hand I love my H&K pistols, so that MR556 is something I might consider if I have an extra 6 grand to blow (I would have to buy two...one for shooting and the other one for parts). But since I have this thing called a Z guns have taken a passenger seat to guns for the near future.

Speaking of gas-piston ARs....I watch this goofy show "Sons of Guns" where the last episode they were designing a revolutionary AR that was as dependable as an AK for the DOE. Yes they milled out their own receivers, but it looks like they just ordered a gas-piston from another manufacturer. It's like they don't expect gun-nuts to know that the H&K 416 or ACR or SCAR have been out for awhile now.

With that being said, I am anxiously anticipating an email from Rainier Arms letting me know that my Noveske matched upper and lower are ready for me to buy!


tvfreakazoid 01-13-2012 02:58 AM

The family!
 
Ok here is my small collections of guns. The sks i had since i was about 18yrs old and the AR is new and the AR style .22LR is about 5 months old and the pistols are about 3 months old. I had a browning Hi-power, but it was stolen about 3 or 4yrs ago. I got that when i was about 21yrs old. I miss it.

I really want an AK for my next rifle. But the arsenal AK's are way over priced, the century is crap or unless you get lucky and get a decent one. Building my own i can't cause well i don't have tools and wouldn't know how to begin. Getting parts would be a mish mash of god knows what and quality you would get. And i wouldn't know how well it would stack up against an Arsenal build. Well that's my dilemma on my Ak issue. =(

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...unfamily-1.jpg

I also noticed that the barrel thickness between my XDm and the glock. I wonder if that makes any difference in durability. The little crap on the side of the barrel of my XDm is probably froglube.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...lockbarrel.jpg

MacCool 01-13-2012 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 1488233)
I also noticed that the barrel thickness between my XDm and the glock. I wonder if that makes any difference in durability. The little crap on the side of the barrel of my XDm is probably froglube.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...lockbarrel.jpg

Wow! That's a telling picture. I would think that a heavier barrel would be more robust. I can't say whether the Glock is overly strong or the XDm is overly weak, but I haven't heard of any significant number of XDm barrel failures, so in practical terms I'm guessing that it probably doesn't matter much.

Glocks are known to be pretty well built. I know a lot of bomb squad deputies that have run hundreds of rounds of the surplus POF 9mm submachine gun ammo through their Glocks. No barrel problems, no slide cracking.

BlackZeda 01-13-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 1488229)
They should of thrown in the AK as well. It would of been nice to know how it would of done against the AR's.

I would think the AK would fare pretty well actually. Too bad they didn't include it in the testing.

wstar 01-13-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1488303)
Glocks are known to be pretty well built.

Understatement of the year :)

Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com

m4a1mustang 01-13-2012 05:56 PM

I'm going to see if I can make it out to the range sometime this weekend to show my AR some love. :yum:

BlackZeda 01-13-2012 08:34 PM

A little, pleasant suprise!
 
I ordered two extra mags for my H&K P2000SK from HKParts.net expecting to get the flat-bottomed ones that came with it. I was pleasantly suprised that they turned out to be the ones with the extended floor plate. Now I have two of each type. I will probably use the flat floor plate for when I am carrying as they "print" better (I just learned that term :) ). Oh, they sent me a cool H&K sticker!

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...ag-sticker.jpg

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cptspeed 01-13-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1489476)
I ordered two extra mags for my H&K P2000SK from HKParts.net expecting to get the flat-bottomed ones that came with it. I was pleasantly suprised that they turned out to be the ones with the extended floor plate. Now I have two of each type. I will probably use the flat floor plate for when I am carrying as they "print" better (I just learned that term :) ). Oh, they sent me a cool H&K sticker!

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...ag-sticker.jpg

What a beautiful gun.

MacCool 01-14-2012 09:30 AM

Hold off on buying pmags...
 
Magpul just announced their Pmag M3, an improved version of the Pmag, as well as some additional accessories. I'd wait until they're released, and some user feedback has come in before buying any significant quantities of current-version Pmags.

OR....perhaps this spring will be a great time to pick up the older version pmags in large quantities for low prices, new or used.

PMAG MAGAZINES - PMAG 30 M3, 5.56x45 Magazine – AR15/M16

http://SSEquine.net/pmagm3.jpg

m4a1mustang 01-14-2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cptspeed (Post 1489550)
What a beautiful gun.

:iagree: I am so jealous... I want to go out and buy one right now. :icon17:

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1489787)
Magpul just announced their Pmag M3, an improved version of the Pmag, as well as some additional accessories. I'd wait until they're released, and some user feedback has come in before buying any significant quantities of current-version Pmags.

OR....perhaps this spring will be a great time to pick up the older version pmags in large quantities for low prices, new or used.

PMAG MAGAZINES - PMAG 30 M3, 5.56x45 Magazine – AR15/M16

http://SSEquine.net/pmagm3.jpg

Nice! I was thinking about picking up some more PMAGs but I will probably wait and see how these new guys turn out.

Dzel 01-14-2012 09:38 AM

I'm hoping to buy my first pistol this year I'm getting my wheels first then I'm looking into a AR or maybe just a Glock to get started.

BlackZeda 01-14-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cptspeed (Post 1489550)
What a beautiful gun.

I don't know if it is form or function, but somehow H&K come up with some really cool designs.

There is a bonus with this gun that I didn't think of when I bought it; since it is 9mm a couple of my female friends love shooting it over the larger (in both size and caliber) USPs. One of my friends wanted to buy a .22 pistol because she thought anything larger was too much for her. After shooting the P2000SK she decided to go with 9mm. Not that there is anything wrong with a .22, I just think she has a lot more choices in personal protection ammo with a 9mm.

haggomyeggo 01-14-2012 10:12 AM

Here's a question for some open opinions...

I'm in the market for a new shotgun to shoot trap or sporting clays with. The pump I've been using isn't really made for it and it has trouble ejecting the lighter sporting shells

Budget around 1000. +- couple hundred

I know a over/under is nice but probably out of my price range
Something pretty light and mobile.

Any suggestions?
I've shot a benelli nova-ok but not a fan
I don't want a generic 870 like everyone else.

semtex 01-14-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo (Post 1489817)
Here's a question for some open opinions...

I'm in the market for a new shotgun to shoot trap or sporting clays with. The pump I've been using isn't really made for it and it has trouble ejecting the lighter sporting shells

Budget around 1000. +- couple hundred

I know a over/under is nice but probably out of my price range
Something pretty light and mobile.

Any suggestions?
I've shot a benelli nova-ok but not a fan
I don't want a generic 870 like everyone else.

Have you looked at Beretta?

haggomyeggo 01-14-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1489952)
Have you looked at Beretta?

i have Im just not very familiar with them.

semtex 01-14-2012 01:36 PM

They're top notch when it comes to hunting shotguns. Spend some time checking them out. Beretta USA

semtex 01-14-2012 01:39 PM

You might also give FNH a looksy. FNH USA

http://www.fnhusa.com/support/images.../FNM0202mb.png

MacCool 01-14-2012 02:03 PM

My buddy shoots sporting clays with extraordinary success using his Benelli M4. A little out of the price envelope described, but that is a very fine shotgun.

http://SSEquine.net/benellim4.jpg



+1 on the Beretta, by the way. Also excellent.



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BlackZeda 01-14-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1489794)
:iagree: I am so jealous... I want to go out and buy one right now. :icon17:

We will need a report and pictures of course. Are you considering anything else besides the P2000SK? I still can't believe that I picked it up for only $600.

m4a1mustang 01-14-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1490478)
We will need a report and pictures of course. Are you considering anything else besides the P2000SK? I still can't believe that I picked it up for only $600.

For some reason I really want a Kel-Tec PF9 to tinker around with.

I kind of want to get a Glock 19 so I can stay with a "system," but Glocks are boring and I'd rather have the P2000SK.

I need to hold off though because I've got a bunch of stuff to buy for the 5.0 in the coming months... maybe later in the year. I really want one. So nice... :drool:

m4a1mustang 01-14-2012 09:01 PM

Thought about it some more and I also want a Ruger GP100 4" and a Bersa Thunder 380 :icon17:

m4a1mustang 01-15-2012 11:01 AM

Thought about it even more and I also want a Kahr CM9 and Ruger LCP.

BlackZeda 01-15-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1490616)
Thought about it some more and I also want a Ruger GP100 4" and a Bersa Thunder 380 :icon17:

Man, you want a lot of s**t! But I am guilty of the same thing :(

That is the great thing about ARs; you can spend $200-300 at a time and end up with a ultra high end weapon after a year.

As far as revolvers go, Rugers are by far and away my favorite. I have 4" GP100 .357 and don't feel the need to get any other revolver...maybe one in black or possibly a SP101?

MacCool 01-15-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1491057)

That is the great thing about ARs; you can spend $200-300 at a time and end up with a ultra high end weapon after a year.

Truer words were never spoken. Here's an excellent primer on appropriate tactical load out. This should give some of you guys some really good equipment ideas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q362H-xg0ZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES9QxE3sUaw

m4a1mustang 01-15-2012 01:26 PM

I just spent maybe $1200 at once on my AR and think I ended up with a high-end setup. All I need is an optic and I'm set. BCM :happydance:

It isn't a beer can opener, though. :(

BlackZeda 01-15-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1491138)
Truer words were never spoken. Here's an excellent primer on appropriate tactical load out. This should give some of you guys some really good equipment ideas.

LOL...the only thing missing is a Fleshlight with a picatinny mount. Seriously, that rifle probably weights 30lbs. Why?

Even with the UBR this rifle weights less than 7lbs. without the scope:

http://www.the370z.com/members/black...3-sweet-ar.jpg

BlackZeda 01-15-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1491187)
I just spent maybe $1200 at once on my AR and think I ended up with a high-end setup. All I need is an optic and I'm set. BCM :happydance:

It isn't a beer can opener, though. :(

Noveske barrels...polygonal rifling... :yum:

I am going back and forth between a Trijicon RMR, Reflex and Aimpoint of some sort. RMR is probably going to win.

MacCool 01-15-2012 02:47 PM

In fact, I did just order the Ace Tactical Bottle Opener for my Picante rail. Can't wait to get it out to the Sheriff's range.

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-8988744...7_2186_2070292


I already have a LaRue Tactical Beverage Entry Tool...

http://SSEquine.net/beverageentry.jpg

BlackZeda 01-15-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1491307)
In fact, I did just order the Ace Tactical Bottle Opener for my Picante rail. Can't wait to get it out to the Sheriff's range.

I already have a LaRue Tactical Beverage Entry Tool...

That's awesome!

SgtGoldy 01-15-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1491138)
Truer words were never spoken. Here's an excellent primer on appropriate tactical load out. This should give some of you guys some really good equipment ideas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q362H-xg0ZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES9QxE3sUaw

wow... Johnny tactical here. I could never ever do something like that (nor do I have the funds...)

semtex 01-15-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1491223)
LOL...the only thing missing is a Fleshlight with a picatinny mount.

LOL. Wat??? Was that a Freudian slip? An AR-15 with a Fleshlight mounted on the rails . . . that's quite the mental image! :bowrofl: :roflpuke2:

BlackZeda 01-15-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 1491922)
LOL. Wat??? Was that a Freudian slip? An AR-15 with a Fleshlight mounted on the rails . . . that's quite the mental image! :bowrofl: :roflpuke2:

Hey don't judge me...I really love my ARs! Coming soon, DIY: Fleshlight install...

semtex 01-15-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 1491940)
Hey don't judge me...I really love my ARs! Coming soon, DIY: Fleshlight install...

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...emtex0/LOL.jpg

Rooster89 01-15-2012 11:51 PM

:icon18: That image will haunt me tonight!

Skeeterbop 01-16-2012 02:01 AM

Poor rifle, that thing looks so confused. :shakes head:
I seriously hope this was all just a joke.

Skeeterbop 01-16-2012 02:07 AM

ok, having seen the whole thing, that is pretty fun stuff.

BlackZeda 01-16-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop (Post 1492178)
ok, having seen the whole thing, that is pretty fun stuff.

The second video is freakin' hilarious! I love after 1000 rounds there is one hit on the target...

MacCool 01-16-2012 09:34 AM

I don't know if it will be announced at SHOT or not, but Magpul will be introducing a couple of items of interest, beyond the new Pmags.

Image of their new 40-round Pmag, as well as a rubberized MOE forearm grip similar to the overmolded rubberized MOE pistol grip they announced a couple of months ago (as also seen in this picture). I have that pistol grip...it's excellent (althougth only available in black so far).

http://www.pbase.com/hmac/image/140954743.jpg


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