Z1 Manifold

synolimit · 08-04-2014, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Thanx man , but to many mods to see just what the intake would do, LTH, and HFCS, intake and exhaust , will net you 315 or so WHP on their own.
I'm just trying to get an idea what gains from just the manifold are
I won't be getting headers and only maybe FI RHFC'S .

send some cash and ill test it

. dyno is $100hr rent. after i tune on the 8th at a different dyno im coming home to test on the dyno ive done 2 time before to see an overall gain. i can run the car, pull off the mani and run it again to see a power loss/equal/possible increase haha.

Megan370z · 08-04-2014, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowZ

Why would the g3's choke the bored TB? If the TB are bored that means they are able to get more air in there.

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1slow370 · 08-04-2014, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowZ

Why would the g3's choke the bored TB? If the TB are bored that means they are able to get more air in there.

because stillen gen3's have a smaller hole through them than the over bored throttles do, so the gen3's would flow less air than the throttle does.

Rusty · 08-04-2014, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

because stillen gen3's have a smaller hole through them than the over bored throttles do, so the gen3's would flow less air than the throttle does.

Yea, the G3's would flow less then the bored throttle bodies. You would think the G3's flow more then the stock set-up too. Just throwing this out there.

Megan370z · 08-04-2014, 07:40 PM

the stock intake and the stillen g3 might share the same ID but the stillen has better laminar air flow and 2 quite big air filter which reduce a lot the restriction of pumping the air thru them.

its the same story when someone put some K&N drop in .. they gain in general about half than the stillen because the restriction of the airflow is less in those filter than the OEM ones.

this is why I always recommended to make a custom CAI if paired with bored TB.

aszyd · 08-04-2014, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Megan370z

the stock intake and the stillen g3 might share the same ID but the stillen has better laminar air flow and 2 quite big air filter which reduce a lot the restriction of pumping the air thru them.

its the same story when someone put some K&N drop in .. they gain in general about half than the stillen because the restriction of the airflow is less in those filter than the OEM ones.

this is why I always recommended to make a custom CAI if paired with bored TB.

I know in the previous post I said that I was done with the mods, but the line in your signature intrigued me. Obviously, I do not need all of the breathing mods, but perhaps a new intake and ported lower might be in order, and anything else that I am "missing"...

Megan370z · 08-04-2014, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

I know in the previous post I said that I was done with the mods, but the line in your signature intrigued me. Obviously, I do not need all of the breathing mods, but perhaps a new intake and ported lower might be in order, and anything else that I am "missing"...

If I tell you what you are missing, you wont like my answer... hehe

aszyd · 08-04-2014, 07:58 PM

Like a full HR upper engine build? Definitely not in the cards.

Megan370z · 08-04-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aszyd

Like a full HR upper engine build? Definitely not in the cards.

no worries, I meant for a stock VVEL engine.

aszyd · 08-04-2014, 08:12 PM

Might as well get it over with...

SlowZ · 08-04-2014, 09:28 PM

Sorry it was late and I didn't realize what I read when I posted. I know the ID of th g3 would be smaller than that of a bored TB. So basically without a custom intake that matches that of the TB, there wouldn't be any noticeable gains?

synolimit · 08-04-2014, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowZ

Sorry it was late and I didn't realize what I read when I posted. I know the ID of th g3 would be smaller than that of a bored TB. So basically without a custom intake that matches that of the TB, there wouldn't be any noticeable gains?

There'd be gains, you'd just have a choke point in the system.

370z2013 · 07-25-2017, 01:01 AM

Soooo now that some time has passed anyone care to chime in on which manifold is the better option? The z1 or the motordyne m370?

2011 Nismo#91 · 07-25-2017, 09:04 AM

Generally besides a CAI, other intake mods don't really do anything for NA setups. You might see small increased in the middle of the rpm range but that's all.

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Megan370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,156 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 23	the stock intake and the stillen g3 might share the same ID but the stillen has better laminar air flow and 2 quite big air filter which reduce a lot the restriction of pumping the air thru them. its the same story when someone put some K&N drop in .. they gain in general about half than the stillen because the restriction of the airflow is less in those filter than the OEM ones. this is why I always recommended to make a custom CAI if paired with bored TB. __________________ Megan Journal Click Me ....................One Man Team Motorsport Click Me

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aszyd Track Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 877 Drives: Magma Red 370z T+S Rep Power: 20	Might as well get it over with... __________________ Competition Clutch\|Fast Intentions\|Maxbore\|NST\|Setrab\|Stillen\|Tomei\|Uprev\| Z1 Avant Garde\|SPC\|Stance\|Whiteline Aerojacket\|Seibon\|Tanabe\|TRS\|TWM

08-04-2014, 09:28 PM	#26 (permalink)
SlowZ Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: So cal Posts: 371 Drives: Z Rep Power: 11	Sorry it was late and I didn't realize what I read when I posted. I know the ID of th g3 would be smaller than that of a bored TB. So basically without a custom intake that matches that of the TB, there wouldn't be any noticeable gains? redondoaveb likes this.

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370z2013 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 160 Drives: 13' GM 370z CpTr 7AT Rep Power: 12	Soooo now that some time has passed anyone care to chime in on which manifold is the better option? The z1 or the motordyne m370? JckHmr likes this.

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2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,380 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 33858	Generally besides a CAI, other intake mods don't really do anything for NA setups. You might see small increased in the middle of the rpm range but that's all. TechnicZ likes this. __________________ GTR TT 493Whp/431lbft, Ecutek, Southbend 6puck,Quaife, RPM RollBar 4Point, R888R, JRZ RSPro F(10R/10C) R(10R/6C) 1000f500r inlbs+150inlbs Tender, SPL everywhere.Full Specs

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