the crank shaft its harmonic balance?

Red__Zed

I think the answer I saw earlier in the discussion was "because racecar"

wstar

Exactly. Everything I do is "because racecar". I just bought a new house and most of my decision criteria was "because racecar" (now I have more room to work on it - 3 car garage for nothing but the Z + parts + tools, unrestricted area for building further additions and testing loud racecar things).

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XwChriswX

Honestly, like I said before, I didn't really do it for power.

I did it because I noticed a distinct improvement of engine response, and smoother revs. Power gain was minimal, but a bonus. Plus in terms of other mod/hp (intake/exhaust) it was fairly cheap.

And my experience has been the same with anything down to a recently searched thought on 7AT fluid changes, it all comes down to who does it. If installed properly, potential for failure is minimal. If installed improperly, potential for failure is exponential. Just my

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DEpointfive0

I agree 100%

I don't know why edub cares so much what the rest of us do with our cars
Turbocharging and supercharging will destroy the engine MUCH quicker than a pulley, probably much quicker than the metals fusing to each other



Guys, this thread has gone too far
We're still not getting anywhere

Lets cut our losses

XwChriswX

But these video's just show the bolts are hard as hell to get off, they don't explain anything as to what happened, or as to the nature of the installation. These alone should not be used as ammunition against getting a pulley installed because they don't answer any questions.

For the sake of those video's, I know better what brands of pneumatic impact wrench not to buy vs anything against pulleys.

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luigi90210

while i agree with you(not enough information was provided about those installs, for all we know they might have been installed incorrectly), i think the videos are showing the metals fusing together

i know its hard to undo certain bolts on an engine but to do all that is a bit much imo

XwChriswX

How do you know they've fused together though? They don't show anything removed...

Perhaps the installer just seriously over-torqued the pulley nut...

A better camera angle would be showing the gap between the pulley and the block to where you can see the fuse point.

Those video's clearly show something wrong, but like it was previously said, just using the pulley is a scapegoat is a premature diagnosis...

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luigi90210

i dont know which is why i said i think

no need to attack me, i personally wouldnt install an underdrive pulley on my car but i wouldnt talk down someone who did

to each their own is how the saying goes

Trilitheum

I can explain why they get stuck together, they are not fusing. It is a galvanic cell which produces a layer of aluminum oxide on the inner diameter of the pulley.

The aluminum will corrode preferentially to the carbon steel shaft. The problem comes in the volume change when aluminum goes from Al to Al203 (aluminum oxide) the volume increase is about 2 fold.

So if the parts are in intimate contact when they were installed, the oxide layer when formed takes up additional volume and squeezes the inner shaft as it tries to expand with virtually no gap (except the machining tolerance) which is taken up quickly.

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XwChriswX

I was not attacking you, good sir.



I just hope no one takes those videos as clear "evidence" against pulleys because they show nothing.

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Huck

I'm still enjoying this conversation, and I'll throw this out there. I had to use a breaker bar with a 3 foot extension to get my stock pulley off. Sometimes it's just a pain in the ***


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