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vitinvictor1 01-18-2013 08:43 PM

the crank shaft its harmonic balance?
 
Im thinking in get the pulley for the Z...but I want to know if Its the crank shaft harmonic balance????

DEpointfive0 01-18-2013 09:12 PM

Please use the search feature


50% think it's internally balanced, 50% think that if you replace the OEM crank pulley you'll fúck something up...


Personally, I know Mike at NST personally, lol


And I run the 20% under drive pulley without an alternator pulley with no issues, I think it's an amazing mod

dP3NGU1N 01-18-2013 10:12 PM

It's strange that we can't get a straight answer on this. Wouldn't one of the shops on the forum know definitively exactly how it's balanced? Particularly the one that sells the pulleys?

DEpointfive0 01-18-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2119530)
It's strange that we can't get a straight answer on this. Wouldn't one of the shops on the forum know definitively exactly how it's balanced? Particularly the one that sells the pulleys?

The guys selling pulleys sell THOUSDANDS and ALL say the engines are internally balanced... IIRC Mike@NST says that the Harmonics thing is BS, that it would make a difference if our cars were F1 cars spinning at 18k RPM, not 8K
And Mike is a smart guy


It's like wheel spacers, fúck ups come from bad installs... My pulley has been on for... 8k miles, just checked it whole it was on the lift, no issues I can see!

edub370 01-19-2013 08:43 AM

dont know why u would risk damaging your engine by throwing off its harmonics to pick up 3 hp...

7419sundat 01-19-2013 11:36 AM

Its a harmonic DAMPER, it does not balance the engine. Yes it is damaging to remove it. That's why almost every single car has one.

SouthArk370Z 01-19-2013 11:50 AM

Is there a harmonic damper on the engine?

I searched the FSM for "harmonic", "balance", and "damp" with no harmonic damper found. Scanning through the pics in the engine sections, all I could find is a crank pulley.

Looking at my engine, the crank pulley doesn't look like it's attached to a damper, but it's difficult to see without pulling the fans (and maybe the radiator) plus I wouldn't be surprised if a modern damper doesn't look like what I'm used to seeing.

Z370Z011 01-19-2013 11:51 AM

I wonder what nissan would haw to say about this. Maybe they'll have the real answer?

7419sundat 01-19-2013 11:58 AM

The crank pulley is a harmonic damper it has a vibration absorbing material ring in it.

SouthArk370Z 01-19-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7419sundat (Post 2119890)
The crank pulley is a harmonic damper it has a vibration absorbing material ring in it.

Thanks.

XwChriswX 01-19-2013 12:01 PM

I had an NST Pulley set installed @ 8k, I'm almost to 43k right now, zero problems. :tup:

Huck 01-19-2013 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2119535)
The guys selling pulleys sell THOUSDANDS and ALL say the engines are internally balanced... IIRC Mike@NST says that the Harmonics thing is BS, that it would make a difference if our cars were F1 cars spinning at 18k RPM, not 8K
And Mike is a smart guy


It's like wheel spacers, fúck ups come from bad installs... My pulley has been on for... 8k miles, just checked it whole it was on the lift, no issues I can see!

^^ THIS. I did a lot of research outside of this forum prior to installing mine and came up with the exact same info that Mike at NST posted on his pulley review thread. Go read that thread, it's extremely logical and informative. I've had my pulley on for ~7000-8000 miles with no problems. It's a cheap mod, it gives you more than 3hp, it helps smooth out your acceleration and makes your motor more responsive.


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XwChriswX 01-19-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck (Post 2119900)
^^ THIS. I did a lot of research outside of this forum prior to installing mine and came up with the exact same info that Mike at NST posted on his pulley review thread. Go read that thread, it's extremely logical and informative. I've had my pulley on for ~7000-8000 miles with no problems. It's a cheap mod, it gives you more than 3hp, it helps smooth out your acceleration and makes your motor more responsive.

This is why I installed it, a minute HP gain is just a plus.

vitinvictor1 01-19-2013 01:04 PM

Thanks for your answers! Its becajse I have pucharsed the stillen pulley (80% more lightweight than OEM ) and I just want to be sure that its safe before install it.....or sell it

7419sundat 01-19-2013 01:36 PM

Compare it to an air filter. Yeah you can run your engine without one and get a little more power and better response but your engine won't last as long...


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