PPE Long Tube Headers Installed...

chuckd05 · 05-31-2011, 07:55 PM

chuckd05 · 05-31-2011, 07:55 PM

Click it than hit the little magnifying glass on the bottom of the pic for a full size pic

chuckd05 · 05-31-2011, 08:00 PM

lmk if u have trouble seeing it in full size, but if you can filter out the black top A/F line with your eye and look at the TQ curves which are very bump you can see they are much improved as well as the HP showing great gains .... at the bottom states max power is now 330 and was 310 peak tq was 242 before was 234....

My car on this exact dyno at performance motorsports just last year put down a ton more power but it was recalibrated since... I really dont think my car has lost a ton of power.. i have a chart of the old graph on top of this one and from start to finish it was higher,,, im guessing it was re-calibration that caused it as the only other variable was my wheels... i put down 342 with test pipes , etc last year and baselines 310 this year.. as for a mustang dyno the 342 didnt really make sense... there is no way I lost 32 horsepower as my trap the last time I went to the track was higher than ever... it would of shown a significant drop if i had 32 less HP

but from the original baseline with last years mods 310whp rose to 330whp with the PPE Long Tubes and flywheel + retune... they said without the tune it was still in the 320's

Jordo! · 05-31-2011, 09:29 PM

If the dyno was re-calibrated that is exactly why your car went from 342 to 310. You didn't lose any power.

And, BTW, that is why I always say that Mustangs can break hearts OR lift spirits -- depends how it's calibrated.

So, just to make sure I am following: You were putting down 310 with test pipes and a tune before and with a re-tune are putting down 330 with PPE?

When was the 310 baseline taken?

Love to see what your car puts down on a dynojet...

chuckd05 · 05-31-2011, 09:40 PM

yes jordo that is correct... 310 to 330 ... the dates are on there... it was about 5 days later.. was supposed to be the same day but due to issues with the LTH install and prior out of state appointments for tunes it got pushed back...

Jordo! · 05-31-2011, 09:59 PM

That's a nice gain over test pipes -- about a 6.5% bump in peak power. That's really good! Congrats

G37sHKS · 06-01-2011, 12:54 AM

Im not trying to hate, I would love to see some new mods that prove gains, but this before and after is not accurate,

Its test pipes VS headers and Tune...

the tune alone can give 20 HP.. unless i missed something..

Jordo! · 06-01-2011, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sHKS

Im not trying to hate, I would love to see some new mods that prove gains, but this before and after is not accurate,

Its test pipes VS headers and Tune...

the tune alone can give 20 HP.. unless i missed something..

That's very unlikely... also, keep in mind that the previous tune will not be optimized with the new headers, therefore it still gives you a good idea of the approximate percent gains over test pipes that could be achieved with them (and a tune).

If we want to be ultra conservative about estiamtes though, I'd say probably 2.5% of the gains are from "just" the tune. That fits what his shop claimed where the car was in the 320's before additonal tuning.

So figure about 4% without tuning, which is still pretty good considering that's over and above any gains realized from TP's.

Jordo! · 06-01-2011, 02:39 AM

Actually, Chuck, what are all of your mods?

chuckd05 · 06-01-2011, 07:21 AM

The car was already tuned before but was running a bit rich. Before the retune she was in the 320's so power was gained over just the test pipes. The retune did not give 20 hp.

My mods are stillen g3, ppe Lth , stillen exhaust , Fidanza flywheel , and 4.08 FD.

The headers without a doubt added nice power. It was instantly noticeable.

Kingbaby · 06-01-2011, 07:26 AM

awesome bro!

hit the track now!

I'm seriously considering this brand for my Z seeing it's of good quality and isn't over priced.

Hopefully all goes well with my install on an HR...

Jordo! · 06-01-2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

The car was already tuned before but was running a bit rich. Before the retune she was in the 320's so power was gained over just the test pipes. The retune did not give 20 hp.

My mods are stillen g3, ppe Lth , stillen exhaust , Fidanza flywheel , and 4.08 FD.

The headers without a doubt added nice power. It was instantly noticeable.

I have a set of these in my closet that I need to get on my car -- nice pick up.

Looking forward to a vid if you have time to make one

N370 · 10-01-2015, 05:50 PM

Hey guys quick question here. For anyone that has installed LTH, how many O2 sensors you use? Do you still use all 4, 2 upstream and 2 downstream?

Rusty · 10-01-2015, 08:19 PM

My FI LTH's use all 4 O2 sensors.

Agent K · 10-02-2015, 06:37 PM

Same with PPE LTH.

05-31-2011, 07:55 PM	#46 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	__________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

05-31-2011, 07:55 PM	#47 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	Click it than hit the little magnifying glass on the bottom of the pic for a full size pic __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

05-31-2011, 08:00 PM	#48 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	lmk if u have trouble seeing it in full size, but if you can filter out the black top A/F line with your eye and look at the TQ curves which are very bump you can see they are much improved as well as the HP showing great gains .... at the bottom states max power is now 330 and was 310 peak tq was 242 before was 234.... My car on this exact dyno at performance motorsports just last year put down a ton more power but it was recalibrated since... I really dont think my car has lost a ton of power.. i have a chart of the old graph on top of this one and from start to finish it was higher,,, im guessing it was re-calibration that caused it as the only other variable was my wheels... i put down 342 with test pipes , etc last year and baselines 310 this year.. as for a mustang dyno the 342 didnt really make sense... there is no way I lost 32 horsepower as my trap the last time I went to the track was higher than ever... it would of shown a significant drop if i had 32 less HP but from the original baseline with last years mods 310whp rose to 330whp with the PPE Long Tubes and flywheel + retune... they said without the tune it was still in the 320's __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 05-31-2011 at 08:13 PM.

05-31-2011, 09:29 PM	#49 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	If the dyno was re-calibrated that is exactly why your car went from 342 to 310. You didn't lose any power. And, BTW, that is why I always say that Mustangs can break hearts OR lift spirits -- depends how it's calibrated. So, just to make sure I am following: You were putting down 310 with test pipes and a tune before and with a re-tune are putting down 330 with PPE? When was the 310 baseline taken? Love to see what your car puts down on a dynojet... __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

05-31-2011, 09:40 PM	#50 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	yes jordo that is correct... 310 to 330 ... the dates are on there... it was about 5 days later.. was supposed to be the same day but due to issues with the LTH install and prior out of state appointments for tunes it got pushed back... __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

05-31-2011, 09:59 PM	#51 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	That's a nice gain over test pipes -- about a 6.5% bump in peak power. That's really good! Congrats __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

06-01-2011, 12:54 AM	#52 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 20	Im not trying to hate, I would love to see some new mods that prove gains, but this before and after is not accurate, Its test pipes VS headers and Tune... the tune alone can give 20 HP.. unless i missed something..

06-01-2011, 02:39 AM	#54 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	Actually, Chuck, what are all of your mods? __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

06-01-2011, 07:21 AM	#55 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	The car was already tuned before but was running a bit rich. Before the retune she was in the 320's so power was gained over just the test pipes. The retune did not give 20 hp. My mods are stillen g3, ppe Lth , stillen exhaust , Fidanza flywheel , and 4.08 FD. The headers without a doubt added nice power. It was instantly noticeable. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

10-01-2015, 05:50 PM	#58 (permalink)
N370 Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Killeen, Texas Posts: 74 Drives: Nissan 370Z M/T Rep Power: 11	Hey guys quick question here. For anyone that has installed LTH, how many O2 sensors you use? Do you still use all 4, 2 upstream and 2 downstream?

10-01-2015, 08:19 PM	#59 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,862 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	My FI LTH's use all 4 O2 sensors. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

10-02-2015, 06:37 PM	#60 (permalink)
Agent K Base Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 155 Drives: '13 370Z MBlue 6MT Rep Power: 11	Same with PPE LTH. __________________ '13 370Z Midnight Blue 6MT / Touring Sport w/nav / PPE Long Tube Racing Headers / FI TDX 10" Resonator w/CF mufflers / K&N Drop-Ins / ZSpeed Underbody Shroud v2 / DRL 'always on' Mod

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