PPE Long Tube Headers Installed...

chuckd05 · 05-20-2011, 10:54 PM

I got PPE Long tube headers installed yesterday along with a fidanza flywheel and SS Clutch Line (another awesome mod !!! )... I was supposed to have a dyno and re tune right after but that was delayed until Tuesday. They did take a baseline dyno before the install though so there will be a before/after comparison.. However, My motor was just changed due to OC, so there are variables that could cause a bigger change in power with the retune. But from driving the he car is def quicker than before and I am expecting to see some nice gains. The shop praised the built quality and said the design looked good. Tuesday it is going back on the dyno and getting the tune tweaked, right now I am running very rich, they said 2 points rich at least.

The one pleasant surprise was that my cars exhuast note is actually MUCH cleaner than before. I went from Berk Test Pipes with Stillen Exhaust to these PPE Long Tube Headers and Stillen exhaust. The car is actually quieter at all rpms with a cleaner sound than before with test pipes. There is less rasp but a more aggressive tone (The pitch of the exhaust changed a little.. for the better ). There is still some rasp along with the lovely hiss but it definatly sounds better than before. I was expecting it to get louder and more raspy and they did the oposite...

My headers were coated and I believe go for around 1,000 on PPE's website. I purchased them used off another forum member a few months back. His Nismo is the car posted on PPE's site with dyno charts giving him 20+ whp , but his car was all stock otherwise...

On a side not, the shop had to drop my motor to get them in. They broke sockets and just decided it would be easier to just drop the motor. Driver's side was a nightmare. Mine was the only 370 that they had to drop the motor for (typical luck of mine) , they installed 4-5 sets of FI LTH without dropping it. But the install IS tough for these... The original quote was very reasonable but went up a smidge because of the motor, but still very reasonable. Money well spent. Performance Motorsports installed these...

So Tuesday I will post before/after dyno charts... but keep these in mind if you are contemplating headers. The biggest plus again is how clean the exhaust sounds.

I am super happy with these and do not regret the purchase or install a bit.

click on the picture to go to the webshots site, than hit the magnifying glass...

TBOX · 05-20-2011, 11:12 PM

Gears, flywheel, headers and tune... You should be moving nicely. We should meet up sometime so I can be jealous of your setup

I'm glad to see performance motorsport seemed to treat you well. I'm considering having them do some work with me soon.

Rooskey · 05-21-2011, 12:13 AM

PPE are step headers. Always gonna be a plus. Step headers give a great all around power curve between torque and hp. You only have to install them once so it seems like a no brainer to me.

advan37 · 05-21-2011, 04:09 AM

Is it crazy loud ??

chuckd05 · 05-21-2011, 09:01 AM

No it's actually quieter than it was before with test pipes at all Rpms. Not sure if that's the case with the FI's but def with these PPE's

nixxer · 05-21-2011, 10:25 AM

Yeah, LTH's alter the engines acoustics. It actually lowers the volume and resonance compared to TP/HFC's, but at WOT its about the same as TP, if not a smidge louder. Curious to see your before/after plots.

Boost_lee · 05-21-2011, 12:52 PM

Nice stuff chuck, keep us posted

Mr.Squeeze · 05-23-2011, 07:29 PM

Nice looking headers

geosZ · 05-23-2011, 07:34 PM

his car sounds great. took off in front of me like a motha the other day

Ron · 05-23-2011, 11:45 PM

In for updates!

chuckd05 · 05-24-2011, 01:03 AM

back to dyno tomorrow...

I have thrown a code p0850 which is neutral position sensor or something like that.. shop must have left something disconnected or something, have no clue what it means but car drives and behaves normal... I am sure they will take care of it..

will post dyno charts tomorrow evening as long as I get the car back tomorrow...

One_Quick_Z · 05-24-2011, 05:58 AM

I would agree on the exhaust note changes, I went from Berk Test Pipes to FI long tube headers with HKS exhaust and the tone got alot cleaner and deepend

DAN

nixxer · 05-24-2011, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z

I would agree on the exhaust note changes, I went from Berk Test Pipes to FI long tube headers with HKS exhaust and the tone got alot cleaner and deepend

DAN

Wheres that video!?

( Click to show/hide )

One_Quick_Z · 05-24-2011, 07:34 AM

I will get one up as soon as I can... sorry I have been a little busy the past two weeks

The only reason I am on the forums during the day is because I have computer access at work

On the plus side I am taking my car to get UpReved Tuned tomorrow morning!

DAN

GZ3 · 05-24-2011, 10:32 AM

Does it rasp any chuck?

05-20-2011, 10:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	PPE Long Tube Headers Installed... I got PPE Long tube headers installed yesterday along with a fidanza flywheel and SS Clutch Line (another awesome mod !!! )... I was supposed to have a dyno and re tune right after but that was delayed until Tuesday. They did take a baseline dyno before the install though so there will be a before/after comparison.. However, My motor was just changed due to OC, so there are variables that could cause a bigger change in power with the retune. But from driving the he car is def quicker than before and I am expecting to see some nice gains. The shop praised the built quality and said the design looked good. Tuesday it is going back on the dyno and getting the tune tweaked, right now I am running very rich, they said 2 points rich at least. The one pleasant surprise was that my cars exhuast note is actually MUCH cleaner than before. I went from Berk Test Pipes with Stillen Exhaust to these PPE Long Tube Headers and Stillen exhaust. The car is actually quieter at all rpms with a cleaner sound than before with test pipes. There is less rasp but a more aggressive tone (The pitch of the exhaust changed a little.. for the better ). There is still some rasp along with the lovely hiss but it definatly sounds better than before. I was expecting it to get louder and more raspy and they did the oposite... My headers were coated and I believe go for around 1,000 on PPE's website. I purchased them used off another forum member a few months back. His Nismo is the car posted on PPE's site with dyno charts giving him 20+ whp , but his car was all stock otherwise... On a side not, the shop had to drop my motor to get them in. They broke sockets and just decided it would be easier to just drop the motor. Driver's side was a nightmare. Mine was the only 370 that they had to drop the motor for (typical luck of mine) , they installed 4-5 sets of FI LTH without dropping it. But the install IS tough for these... The original quote was very reasonable but went up a smidge because of the motor, but still very reasonable. Money well spent. Performance Motorsports installed these... So Tuesday I will post before/after dyno charts... but keep these in mind if you are contemplating headers. The biggest plus again is how clean the exhaust sounds. I am super happy with these and do not regret the purchase or install a bit. click on the picture to go to the webshots site, than hit the magnifying glass... __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 05-31-2011 at 07:59 PM.

05-21-2011, 09:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	No it's actually quieter than it was before with test pipes at all Rpms. Not sure if that's the case with the FI's but def with these PPE's __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

05-21-2011, 10:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
nixxer Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 163 Drives: Black 370z 6MT Sp/T Rep Power: 15	Yeah, LTH's alter the engines acoustics. It actually lowers the volume and resonance compared to TP/HFC's, but at WOT its about the same as TP, if not a smidge louder. Curious to see your before/after plots. __________________ FI TDX 12" \| FI LTH \| Injen CAI \| UpRev \| Tuned by AMS www.project-definition.com

05-21-2011, 12:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Boost_lee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 2,813 Drives: 09 370Z TT 6MT Rep Power: 29	Nice stuff chuck, keep us posted __________________ My TT Z

05-23-2011, 07:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mr.Squeeze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Keystone state Posts: 1,209 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 20152	Nice looking headers __________________ Driven Motorsports Single Turbo 7675 T4 1.32 A/R 995WHP 780TQ

05-20-2011, 11:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
TBOX Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 356 Drives: 09 370z MB M6 Rep Power: 15	Gears, flywheel, headers and tune... You should be moving nicely. We should meet up sometime so I can be jealous of your setup I'm glad to see performance motorsport seemed to treat you well. I'm considering having them do some work with me soon.

05-21-2011, 12:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rooskey Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Carolina Posts: 974 Drives: 2014 Alpha7 GTR Rep Power: 15	PPE are step headers. Always gonna be a plus. Step headers give a great all around power curve between torque and hp. You only have to install them once so it seems like a no brainer to me.

05-21-2011, 04:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
advan37 Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: UAE Posts: 63 Drives: 08 G37 Rep Power: 13	Is it crazy loud ??

05-23-2011, 07:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
geosZ Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: queens ny Posts: 623 Drives: 2012 wrx Sti ice S. Rep Power: 15	his car sounds great. took off in front of me like a motha the other day __________________ ark cbe R.I.P.°berk test pipes°red injen cai°180 lights°eibach springs°spacers°pioneer navi/dvd°stillen splitter°carbonsignal fenders°xxr 527 wheels•momo Italy floor mats•weapon R 4 point Raceing harness. SOLD. NEW CAR 2012 Subaru Sti sedan ice silver.

05-23-2011, 11:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 21	In for updates!

05-24-2011, 01:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	back to dyno tomorrow... I have thrown a code p0850 which is neutral position sensor or something like that.. shop must have left something disconnected or something, have no clue what it means but car drives and behaves normal... I am sure they will take care of it.. will post dyno charts tomorrow evening as long as I get the car back tomorrow... __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

05-24-2011, 05:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 218	I would agree on the exhaust note changes, I went from Berk Test Pipes to FI long tube headers with HKS exhaust and the tone got alot cleaner and deepend DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

05-24-2011, 07:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 218	I will get one up as soon as I can... sorry I have been a little busy the past two weeks The only reason I am on the forums during the day is because I have computer access at work On the plus side I am taking my car to get UpReved Tuned tomorrow morning! DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

05-24-2011, 10:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	Does it rasp any chuck? __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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