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Rusty 08-03-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776404)
You can't help yourself can you. You always have to ask how much.

Yep, Always will. :D I crunch numbers in my head to see if I could do it with my budget.

Rusty 08-03-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by john26jm (Post 3776396)
@rusty yeah if you have that cash laying around you can lol but yeah it’s been awhile


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The bad thing is your car sits there while others get worked on. That's one of the things that I don't like about shops. Sometimes they load their selves up with more work then they can handle.

Spooler 08-03-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776443)
Yep, Always will. :D I crunch numbers in my head to see if I could do it with my budget.

Budget, LOL... Budget. You haven't noticed things always get out of control so crunch your numbers and be ready to spend 10 to 20K over that. If you get real crazy, it will be even more.

Spooler 08-03-2018 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776447)
The bad thing is your car sits there while others get worked on. That's one of the things that I don't like about shops. Sometimes they load their selves up with more work then they can handle.

He said it was his lack of cash because the build got bigger and bigger. See post 237.

Rusty 08-03-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776449)
He said it was his lack of cash because the build got bigger and bigger. See post 237.

Missed the last sentence. :rolleyes: Pay as you go.

Rusty 08-03-2018 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776448)
Budget, LOL... Budget. You haven't noticed things always get out of control so crunch your numbers and be ready to spend 10 to 20K over that. If you get real crazy, it will be even more.

I know. You got the TT kit. Then the motor build. Add in the extras. Toss in the unexpected. Plus who knew I needed this and that. Then the OH F!@K. It all adds up real quick.

Spooler 08-03-2018 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776457)
I know. You got the TT kit. Then the motor build. Add in the extras. Toss in the unexpected. Plus who knew I needed this and that. Then the OH F!@K. It all adds up real quick.

Now you got it. Race Cars don't have a budget. They want all your cash and then some.

Oh and remember, the TT kit is the cheapest part of the build.

Spooler 08-03-2018 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776452)
Missed the last sentence. :rolleyes: Pay as you go.

I don't think that was on purpose. LOL I am kicking myself now. I could have got a Carbon 65 ZO6 Corvette convertible
with a 7 speed and kept my Nismo. I just had to have another TT Z.

Rusty 08-03-2018 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776462)
Now you got it. Race Cars don't have a budget. They want all your cash and then some.

Oh and remember, the TT kit is the cheapest part of the build.

I know. I've built 4 race cars and a dozen race motorcycles. But the most expensive per lbs was my mountain bikes when I was racing them. :eek:

I've been down the rabbit WAY TOO many times. :rofl2: It's a bad habbit I got. :shakes head:

Spooler 08-03-2018 08:20 PM

I am doing one more and then I am done. I just want to do most of it myself, my 1975 Datsun 280zt.

LOL, Famous last words.

Rusty 08-03-2018 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776478)
I am doing one more and then I am done. I just want to do most of it myself, my 1975 Datsun 280zt.

LOL, Famous last words.

For me. If I was 50. No problem in going in with both feet. Now at 62. I'm trying to balance things out. It's hard to put into words my thinking. I'm looking at the end game. How many good years I have left. It's money vs years vs enjoyment. My dad went to 69. He was in bad health at 59. My mom went to 88. But she was in bad health around 72. My sister died at 64. My brother is still going strong at 73. Do I want to pull out $30,000 from my retirement plan to fund my ego.

Now, if I hit the lotto. Everything written above goes out the window. :tup: :driving:

Spooler 08-03-2018 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776484)
Do I want to pull out $30,000 from my retirement plan to fund my ego.

Now, if I hit the lotto. Everything written above goes out the window. :tup: :driving:

You will need more than 30k.

Rusty 08-03-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776487)
You will need more than 30k.

With the way I would want to do it. Think about double that amount.

Spooler 08-04-2018 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776502)
With the way I would want to do it. Think about double that amount.

You may be able to do it for less. What I always look for is the point where
the cost and reliability can get out of control. So, I found that point to be right at 800 whp. I set my goal at that level or a little less. Trying to get more whp than that is when it starts to get real expensive and you can have reliability issues. Some folks have push the whp level up past that but not many. I call it the uncharted territory.
I will be pushing my build to around 18-20psi of boost. If you go any higher, that is when you will need an intake manifold. The next question is what will it take to keep the head gaskets sealed up and at what point this needs to be addressed. It is right at the 800whp level is what you hear. You also hear all the fear tactics of needing a closed deck block, etc. The problem I have is the folks that are fear mongering it can't be trusted. Just look at their previous adventures. They are the only ones making the closed deck blocks also. If I had another choice or more data on it, I would consider it.
So, if you keep it under 800hp you will be a little less than what you think. If you want to chase the 1000hp number, it will cost you. The bad part is you may have to do it several times until you figure out how to keep the engine together. You will be your own R and D department.

john26jm 08-04-2018 10:22 AM

Yup that’s the truth I was almost done so many time and than I would see other blow there engines so I would ok where did they mess up what were they lacking and I would add on to the build like they said pay as you go when you going after uncharted territory like you said it’s a mixing pot of a lot of things money time patience a good shop a good tuner new parts nobody has used before and crossing your fingers


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Spooler 08-05-2018 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776484)
For me. If I was 50. No problem in going in with both feet. Now at 62. I'm trying to balance things out. It's hard to put into words my thinking. I'm looking at the end game. How many good years I have left. It's money vs years vs enjoyment. My dad went to 69. He was in bad health at 59. My mom went to 88. But she was in bad health around 72. My sister died at 64. My brother is still going strong at 73. Do I want to pull out $30,000 from my retirement plan to fund my ego.

Now, if I hit the lotto. Everything written above goes out the window. :tup: :driving:

Here you go Rusty. This video is for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YxNTvBbMNs

Rusty 08-05-2018 03:51 PM

Wish I was cheap. I'll have more money.

Spooler 08-05-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776810)
Wish I was cheap. I'll have more money.

Yeap, me too. You only live once though and I am not getting any younger.

redondoaveb 08-05-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776836)
Yeap, me too. You only live once though and I am not getting any younger.

Wise words to live by!

Rusty 08-05-2018 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776836)
Yeap, me too. You only live once though and I am not getting any younger.

I need enough left to bury me.

Hotrodz 08-05-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776858)
I need enough left to bury me.

Haha, that will be someone else's issue because I won't care once I'm dead!

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Rusty 08-05-2018 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3776886)
Haha, that will be someone else's issue because I won't care once I'm dead!

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I'm having an old fashion Irish wake. Stand the coffin up in a corner and toast me all night. Then the next day. Put my feet in concrete. Put a water hose up my azz, and turn me into a fountain. But both of my middle fingers will be giving someone the bird.

I can remember my great grand dad having an Irish wake. It lasted for 4 days.

john26jm 08-06-2018 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3776895)
I'm having an old fashion Irish wake. Stand the coffin up in a corner and toast me all night. Then the next day. Put my feet in concrete. Put a water hose up my azz, and turn me into a fountain. But both of my middle fingers will be giving someone the bird.



I can remember my great grand dad having an Irish wake. It lasted for 4 days.



Lol that’s one hell of way to go


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tonyHTX 08-07-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3776524)
If you go any higher, that is when you will need an intake manifold. The next question is what will it take to keep the head gaskets sealed up and at what point this needs to be addressed. It is right at the 800whp level is what you hear. You also hear all the fear tactics of needing a closed deck block, etc. The problem I have is the folks that are fear mongering it can't be trusted. Just look at their previous adventures. They are the only ones making the closed deck blocks also. If I had another choice or more data on it, I would consider it.
So, if you keep it under 800hp you will be a little less than what you think. If you want to chase the 1000hp number, it will cost you. The bad part is you may have to do it several times until you figure out how to keep the engine together. You will be your own R and D department.

Nice words! I need to update my build sometime but these things you speak of I have been trying to. I decided that closed deck, despite the "fear mongering" as you put it, imo the best choice for where I'm rebuilding towards. I will definitely find out if the choice works or not and I will not be one who doesn't speak of my experiences. I have always told people about how my car journey has been going (I guess you can call it "R&D" now); for those who have been interested at least.

Here's a short list/summary of what I'm doing in case you weren't aware:
RJ Manufacturing Closed Deck
OEM VQ37VHR Crank
Carrillo VQ37VHR Rods
Traum Pistons 10:1
Built VQ35HR heads - Ferrea Comp Plus Valves, Tomei 272 10.8 intake and exhaust cams
Dynosty Head Gasket
625+ studs
Fast Intentions Stage 3 TT (65.67)

Hotrodz 08-07-2018 01:40 PM

Been a while since you have posted or maybe I just missed it. Nice build...what kind of power you looking for.

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Spooler 08-07-2018 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3777351)
Been a while since you have posted or maybe I just missed it. Nice build...what kind of power you looking for.

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LOL, more than us. Folks are starting to push it. These 2 builds that have popped up in my thread will be very interesting.
Glad to have them on here.

john26jm 08-08-2018 11:23 PM

I’m glad there is more people taking the leap of faith you could say with these cars lol and people who understand the struggle


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Elmo370z 08-09-2018 11:46 AM

[QUOTE=tonyHTX;3777347]Nice words! I need to update my build sometime but these things you speak of I have been trying to. I decided that closed deck, despite the "fear mongering" as you put it, imo the best choice for where I'm rebuilding towards. I will definitely find out if the choice works or not and I will not be one who doesn't speak of my experiences. I have always told people about how my car journey has been going (I guess you can call it "R&D" now); for those who have been interested at least.

Here's a short list/summary of what I'm doing in case you weren't aware:
RJ Manufacturing Closed Deck
OEM VQ37VHR Crank
Carrillo VQ37VHR Rods
Traum Pistons 10:1
Built VQ35HR heads - Ferrea Comp Plus Valves, Tomei 272 10.8 intake and exhaust cams
Dynosty Head Gasket
625+ studs
Fast Intentions Stage 3 TT (65.

Two companies are working on solution to keep the heads bolted down when making over 800whp and keeping the deck open.

370z2Fast 08-09-2018 12:37 PM

AAM Competition Twin Turbo Build
 
I hear you! I just started my twin turbo build. Bought the AAM Competition kit and can't wait to get this thing done. Rebuilding my engine too :happydance:

tonyHTX 08-10-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3777351)
Been a while since you have posted or maybe I just missed it. Nice build...what kind of power you looking for.

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Yeah I've kind of fallen off of the forums and onto fb/ig like others. I still visit myg37 when I have time and here when I remember. :tup:

Power wise I'm not sure yet, I started tuning the car myself so my goal main goal right now is to tune it the best I can get it on hptuners/93 pump gas. After that I'll reevaluate my long term goal - I'm mainly trying to decide if I should go full stand alone or not.

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3777393)
LOL, more than us. Folks are starting to push it. These 2 builds that have popped up in my thread will be very interesting.
Glad to have them on here.

My main goal is to get the best 93 pump gas tune I can do. I did choose 14.5 psi wastegate springs for when I do decide to "turn it up". Maybe one day I'll update my build thread on here. :inoutroflpuke:

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3777883)
Two companies are working on solution to keep the heads bolted down when making over 800whp and keeping the deck open.

Unfortunately (fortunately?) my motor is getting close to be reassembly so I don't have the time to wait on seeing those solutions come to market. I'm starting to think this may be the last VQ motor for me..

Spooler 08-23-2018 01:01 PM

I just ordered a 2nd ATI damper so my rotating assembly can be balanced correctly. I wasn't going to pull my current one off my motor so I just got a new one. LOL

JARblue 08-24-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3780713)
I just ordered a 2nd ATI damper so my rotating assembly can be balanced correctly. I wasn't going to pull my current one off my motor so I just got a new one. LOL

If you are still itching to remove the one from your old car, I'll gladly buy it :tiphat: :icon17:

Spooler 08-24-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3780981)
If you are still itching to remove the one from your old car, I'll gladly buy it :tiphat: :icon17:

Not happening. I will wrap the stock motor up and set it to the side for a rainy day just in case something bad happens.

JARblue 08-24-2018 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3781045)
Not happening.

Please be more clear next time :shakes head:







;)

Spooler 08-25-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3781090)
Please be more clear next time :shakes head:







;)

You can buy them from MA Motorsports. They are not that expensive. The hardest part is getting it installed. That is when the fun begins. A chain wrench works wonders at holding the crank pulley while using a breaker bar to get the stock bolt loosened.

Spooler 08-28-2018 08:31 PM

I am selling all of my stuff. Make me an offer. I am tired of waiting.

Rusty 08-28-2018 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3781929)
I am selling all of my stuff. Make me an offer. I am tired of waiting.

:confused: :wtf:

Hotrodz 08-28-2018 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3781929)
I am selling all of my stuff. Make me an offer. I am tired of waiting.

You got to be kidding me. You pick up your trailer next week!

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madwi 08-28-2018 08:57 PM

I got $500 for the trailer! :)

Spooler 08-28-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3781940)
I got $500 for the trailer! :)

I am keeping that. I will go pick up my next car with it.


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