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Spooler 08-18-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671 (Post 4006780)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maIflhKNAis

Go to 1:42:49

You’ll see his record setting pass @ 13:55

Nate’s first pass is also at 38:20

That was no doubt an Oh CHIT!!!!! moment. Glad it didn't run into an Oh FLUCK moment.

Mr.Squeeze 08-18-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4006784)
That was no doubt an Oh CHIT!!!!! moment. Glad it didn't run into an Oh FLUCK moment.



That's the pass I was telling you about.

Spooler 08-19-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 4006857)
That's the pass I was telling you about.

I guess we should name it "The Pass in the Grass"...

Mr.Squeeze 08-19-2021 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4006903)
I guess we should name it "The Pass in the Grass"...


:icon18: was sure in the grass it's a good thing nothing was damaged could have been a lot worse.

Spooler 08-20-2021 09:23 AM

Talked with Mark at Mazworx. He seems to think the FI exhaust manifolds are good for 500hp a side without too much of an issue. He has a set in his hands right now getting ready to port match them for someone else. He did suggest upgrading to tubular manifolds would be best.
The room to make it happen is limited. Phunk is the only one that has made it happen. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore again. I guess we shall see where I end up.

Spooler 08-20-2021 09:40 AM

New Intake pipes from filter to turbo will be made next week. Going from 2.5in to 3in. to match the intake size of the turbo.

Mr.Squeeze 08-20-2021 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4007029)
Talked with Mark at Mazworx. He seems to think the FI exhaust manifolds are good for 500hp a side without too much of an issue. He has a set in his hands right now getting ready to port match them for someone else. He did suggest upgrading to tubular manifolds would be best.
The room to make it happen is limited. Phunk is the only one that has made it happen. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore again. I guess we shall see where I end up.

This makes sense some GTR guys are using tubular manifolds with the same size turbos you have along with 3.5 inch down pipes.

Spooler 08-20-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 4007062)
This makes sense some GTR guys are using tubular manifolds with the same size turbos you have along with 3.5 inch down pipes.

Can you find out what AR they are running on the hot side please.

Spooler 08-20-2021 03:58 PM

It is kind of crazy where we have ended up. All the great things in the past we really needed we couldn't use because nobody could keep the heads sealed up. Now, that issue has been figured out we need some of these parts and pieces to come back.

Spooler 08-20-2021 04:07 PM

I don't think I ever posted my interim dyno graph. Give me a few and I will.

phunk 08-20-2021 04:25 PM

I believe you are going to find that the FI manifolds will take you where you want to go! When you are looking at a part that flows... whether its fuel system, cylinder head, exhaust pipe, intercooler, throttle body. Remember that there is no airflow/fuel-flow limit to any one of these components. As flow goes up, pressure will go up. Pressure drop across the A to B increases. Efficiency starts to degrade, but it never hits a wall and just stops. This is why the duration/length of a restrictive cross-section is equally important as the cross-section size itself.

As for the GT-R community.. look at the stock turbo manifolds for the GTR. They are integrated to the turbine housing (excluding 2020+ where they separated manifold and housing). People are upgrading the stock turbos from mild to wild, anything from just changing out the wheels on the stock CHRA and machining clearance in the housings, all the way to welding up the CHRA area to put in much larger turbos... and making 1200+ whp through the stock manifolds with stock internal wastegates (upgraded actuators). Those are some small manifolds!

As for CJM manifolds... I have been too busy to mess around much with fabricated products the last 2 years since I am not efficiently configured for that type of product. But I believe I did mention to you that I am in talks with someone who has been prototyping some cast stainless manifolds for the VQ that should meet your needs easily. I dont have a timeline nailed down with him but it sure looks like its close. Unless he falls off the earth I feel like he will have them done before the new year, if not any day now.

Spooler 08-20-2021 04:41 PM

Interim, work in progress. Ethanol Content was 75% with Ignite Red.

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c4579707_c.jpgInterm dyno graph by , on Flickr[/IMG]

Spooler 08-20-2021 04:46 PM

Dyno Graph looks great. If we can get the IAT's under control it will look much better.

redondoaveb 08-20-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4007079)
Interim, work in progress.

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c4579707_c.jpgInterm dyno graph by , on Flickr[/IMG]

Nice! Is power dropping off early due to high IAT's

Spooler 08-20-2021 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4007087)
Nice! Is power dropping off early due to high IAT's

That or hitting the turbos limits. IAT's of 152 deg. F did not help.

Spooler 08-20-2021 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3997874)

https://i.imgur.com/BBLseMG.jpg
Red= 12psi 93octane
Blue= 17psi Ignite Red
Green= 25psi Ignite Red

Bringing this back from the dead again. I am going to take a little TQ away from the midrange to help with traction.

Bringing in this back for comparison. This was on Ignite Red with Ethanol content of 85%.

redondoaveb 08-20-2021 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4007089)
That or hitting the turbos limits. IAT's of 152 deg. F did not help.

Hopefully it's IAT'S and the new ic fixes that. It'll easily hit 1000whp

Spooler 08-20-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4007091)
Hopefully it's IAT'S and the new ic fixes that. It'll easily hit 1000whp

Ethanol content was only 75%. With 85% it will have more also. My old dyno graph was at 85%. It is full to the brim in the tank. Not too worried about that. Let Nick finish it on that. At 87% it will be even more.

Spooler 08-20-2021 06:12 PM

At 92 deg. ambient, which is hot as heck, it actually is really good. With all that working against me I am still happy with it. If I can make the same power on only 28psi of boost and Ignite Red content of 75% I will be happy.

Spooler 08-20-2021 07:41 PM

Picture of the FI intercooler. Notice how the end caps slope down to the center. This is the problem. Need to flow the same volume of air from the 2 1/2in. diameter pipe across the whole core. Notice how it only appears to have enough volume until half way and then it really get's bad. Everything that I have read says this is a problem with the endcaps. Anywhere that the air has to speed up will create heat and a pressure drop. I guess we shall see if that is correct or not.

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a50a1dc8_b.jpgFI intercooler by , on Flickr[/IMG]

Spooler 08-20-2021 07:47 PM

Sorry if my car is a little too dirty for you. I drive my car. It is not a garage queen that I polish and look at. It is a tool for me to have fun. I grew out of the Mr. Clean status years ago.

Spooler 08-20-2021 11:05 PM

I think I shared this before. My issue is no where near as bad as this but the concept is the same. An acceptable pressure drop is only 1 psi.
You also have to remember I didn't start having any issues until I got to 25psi of boost. At that level the IAT's started to climb. It got way out
of whack at 30psi of boost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHUOzFu0wYY

Spooler 08-25-2021 07:41 AM

Ready to go out and get some Draggy times. Tired of doing nothing. I am ready to go do something.

Spooler 08-25-2021 08:44 AM

Already have my first ride along victim lined up. He can't wait to go for a ride. LOL

Spooler 08-25-2021 08:08 PM

Food for thought.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqYN6Qgn0Vk

jchammond 08-26-2021 04:22 AM

Looking back over your previous 12,17,25# graph, unsure if I’ll be tuning much over 20# :ugh2:
That’s with built 7A/T & wanting it to live for a while + be able to learn the different power levels & focus on getting traction through the lower gears :driving:
What you’re building is a Monster :eek::iagree::eek:

FL 4Motion 08-26-2021 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 4007540)
Looking back over your previous 12,17,25# graph, unsure if I’ll be tuning much over 20# :ugh2:
That’s with built 7A/T & wanting it to live for a while + be able to learn the different power levels & focus on getting traction through the lower gears :driving:
What you’re building is a Monster :eek::iagree::eek:

Just throw a th400 in there and call it good. :happydance:

Spooler 08-26-2021 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4007544)
Just throw a th400 in there and call it good. :happydance:

Slush Box.... Uck!!!!

Spooler 08-31-2021 07:34 PM

I just signed up for Z Nationals. I am not doing the track day. I forgot to sign up and they are full. I promised my nephew I would come hang out so I figured we would go to Z Nationals and have a blast.

Spooler 08-31-2021 08:29 PM

I thought real hard about going to FL2K to do some roll racing. My input shaft would not survive on a prepped track more than likely. If I broke the car so quickly my wife would kill me. So, Z Nationals it is this time.

Spooler 08-31-2021 09:52 PM

Car is supposed to finish up this week and dyno time to finish the tune will be next week. We shall see if it makes it. I sure miss it. I got my fingers crossed.

Spooler 09-07-2021 10:51 AM

Moving on along at a steady pace. No worries from me. Ready to have some fun.

Rusty 09-07-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4008591)
Moving on along at a steady pace. No worries from me. Ready to have some fun.

Next week? Next month? Next year?

Spooler 09-07-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4008622)
Next week? Next month? Next year?

Next Whenever...... This week or next week. LOL

gbrettin 09-08-2021 09:53 AM

Yeah, deadlines are pretty darn hard to follow. I've learned that forward progress of any sort is good progress.

Spooler 09-08-2021 09:04 PM

Still patiently waiting but time is getting short. I got places to go and things to do.

Spooler 09-10-2021 12:40 PM

Should be back on the dyno next week if all goes as planned. I can't wait to see what we get and how the new intercooler does.

Mr.Squeeze 09-11-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4008921)
Should be back on the dyno next week if all goes as planned. I can't wait to see what we get and how the new intercooler does.

This is going to be epic time to awaken the beast

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Spooler 09-11-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 4008978)
This is going to be epic time to awaken the beast

Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

I hope so. Got my fingers crossed.

Spooler 09-11-2021 07:10 PM

Once you blow a headgasket it is always in the back of your mind that it might happen again. I am pushing the crap out of this engine and turbo setup. The excess back pressure from the turbo's tight AR can cause issues. I am just hoping I was dropping 5 to 6 psi of boost at the intercooler. That will give me the headroom I need to run a good number without a turbo change. I want usable power, not some dyno number. Nick will do his best. I know I am on the limit and things can go wrong at this power level real quick. So yeah, I am stressing some. If the chit goes south, I will send the motor back to Mazworx and make a turbo AR change.


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