Topgunz - air to air upgrade

bikeking · 03-31-2018, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah

So I've had two stupid ideas tonight about adjusting the intake setup on this kit...

Stupid idea #1 - could you fab up an airbox/manifold to mate to the front of the SC and then pipe that to a filter in the bumper? Still would deal with a 90 degree barrier in flow but at least you'd have more cross sectional area in the path?

Stupid idea #2 - use one of those rock-screen setups on the SC and then add a filter before the IC (or farther downstream before the TB's)? Can't think of a reason why the filter couldn't be pressurized..

I have been drinking.

I’ve thought about an airbox idea, I’ve seen a few builds using one.

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bikeking · 03-31-2018, 11:55 PM

Could also use a cobra head, but I think the small 90 would affect airflow.

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nic370 · 04-01-2018, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MoulaZ

I did a similar setup a while ago. Definitely felt a significant loss of power. Got any more info on that silicone coupler off the SC?

I've only been for a little drive but certainly didn't feel down on power by much
The dyno will most likely tell me different
It's Such a shame stillen didn't mount the charger slightly across towards the stock intake location you could come straight out then

The coupler isnt a straight up solution we had to play around with it and other bits a lot

I'll get on the dyno in the next few weeks and report back the losses etc

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djkleibertron · 04-03-2018, 02:32 AM

Anyone have an install video on the ATA conversion? Or a step by step pictures of converting the liquid setup to topgunz??

jchammond · 04-03-2018, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bikeking

I’ve thought about an airbox idea, I’ve seen a few builds using one.

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I wouldn’t put a filter on the pressure/boosted side of induction,
As it could force it into your engine or at least dis-figure it & cause disruption in boost.
I’ve seen a few screens on the pressure side of oem diesels (heavy duty w/large holes) but nothing as restrictive as a filter.
When you say bumper; are you speaking of crash bar? As these are modified for various use of different filters & even replaced with smaller tubular ones (such as Fast-Intentions).
Nothing wrong with brainstorming on new ideas; as all these are custom & not oem.

Jayhovah · 04-03-2018, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond

I wouldn’t put a filter on the pressure/boosted side of induction,
As it could force it into your engine or at least dis-figure it & cause disruption in boost.
I’ve seen a few screens on the pressure side of oem diesels (heavy duty w/large holes) but nothing as restrictive as a filter.
When you say bumper; are you speaking of crash bar? As these are modified for various use of different filters & even replaced with smaller tubular ones (such as Fast-Intentions).
Nothing wrong with brainstorming on new ideas; as all these are custom & not oem.

nah I meant the bumper... like pipe the filter down to one of the open cavities on the sides (where FI/GTM/Gamma TT kits put the filters).

mikey1600 · 04-09-2018, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt

Have you replaced the Stillen extension cables with the later version? The original cables are a known problem.

Are these purchased direct from Stillen or aftermarket? can't seem to find them online and I'm still running the original ones.

turtle64b · 04-09-2018, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey1600

Are these purchased direct from Stillen or aftermarket? can't seem to find them online and I'm still running the original ones.

Direct from Stillen. Call them. That's what I had to do recently.

TopgunZ · 04-09-2018, 06:39 PM

I have some gen2 sets sitting in my shop. Looking to get rid of them.

Optimiser · 04-17-2018, 01:42 AM

My car is at my shop all this week to have the 928 impeller and bearings/seals/ upgrade, have a better intake fabricated so as not to have to use the little flat filter, service, Uprev ARC update and retune on the dyno.

cupcakez · 04-17-2018, 04:16 AM

is the impeller gold from 928 or is that a specially ordered custom gold impeller?

TopgunZ · 04-17-2018, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Optimiser

My car is at my shop all this week to have the 928 impeller and bearings/seals/ upgrade, have a better intake fabricated so as not to have to use the little flat filter, service, Uprev ARC update and retune on the dyno.

Myself and others have done some testing with using a different filter and nothing is better than the one provided with the kit. But, it will be hard to say if you picked anything up or lost anything if you go with both impeller and intake mods at the same time as that impeller, assuming you will re-pulley and spin at 60K+, is going to pick up some good power.

milkcow500 · 04-17-2018, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cupcakez

is the impeller gold from 928 or is that a specially ordered custom gold impeller?

928 coats them and it comes in that color.

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Optimiser · 04-17-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cupcakez

is the impeller gold from 928 or is that a specially ordered custom gold impeller?

I think it's a special tough titanium nitride coating the same as applied to many cutting tools used on cnc mills and lathes to increase their life. It would give the impeller, which is billet aluminium, some extra protection.

"Titanium nitride is an extremely hard ceramic material, often used as a coating on titanium alloys, steel, carbide, and aluminium components to improve the substrate's surface properties". Wikipedia

Optimiser · 04-17-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Myself and others have done some testing with using a different filter and nothing is better than the one provided with the kit. But, it will be hard to say if you picked anything up or lost anything if you go with both impeller and intake mods at the same time as that impeller, assuming you will re-pulley and spin at 60K+, is going to pick up some good power.

I have already "re-pullied" and am at about 59,000rpm compared to the stock 50,000rpm. Its been fine for a year like this but I wanted to do the bearing and seals upgrade for durability/reliabilty reasons and thought I'd do the upgraded impeller at the same time.

04-03-2018, 02:32 AM	#2329 (permalink)
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