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TopgunZ 01-20-2018 03:36 PM

The correct spring is 1.5psi. It would have came with that.

brucelidat 01-20-2018 05:44 PM

Is this about what we should be expecting from the kit? Do you ave a dyno you can post?

Quote:

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3723418)
My car made Specialty Z's Instagram page. :happydance:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BeKIpuljVDU/


redondoaveb 01-20-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3723468)
Is this about what we should be expecting from the kit? Do you ave a dyno you can post?

I think topgunz could better answer the first question. If you scroll through the 4 pages of the instagram link you'll see dyno results.

brucelidat 01-20-2018 06:09 PM

nice, man

Senna-F1 01-20-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3723468)
Is this about what we should be expecting from the kit? Do you ave a dyno you can post?

Here you go.

redondoaveb 01-20-2018 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3723475)
nice, man

Thank you

overtureZ 01-23-2018 06:58 PM

Aaron, did you get my PM about buying your leak test setup?

TopgunZ 01-23-2018 08:03 PM

http://www.the370z.com/members/topgu...3-19-49-42.png

Here you go. Get a 2.5" pvc cap. Schaeder valve, nut and a rubber washer. Make it look like this. Place it in the intercooler inlet. Pressurize it with compressor. Call me with questions.

overtureZ 01-24-2018 11:08 AM

Think a bike pump will work?

TopgunZ 01-24-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by overtureZ (Post 3724432)
Think a bike pump will work?

Well, you wouldnt need to get on the treadmill afterwards. :tup:

cupcakez 01-24-2018 11:56 AM

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I have a question that I feel the answer to it is very simple and I am just not seeing it, so because I am curious and want to know, I will ask it anyway!

How is it that the blower after the Air-to-Air kit is facing down??? But the sticker for Stillen label is still facing the same direction as if when the Supercharger was first installed?

Wouldn't it if I rotated my blower downward like the one in the Air-to-Air kit, it the label would be facing <----- instead of upward?

Or is the blower able to be rotated somehow like that with the air-to-air kit installation?

Or...am I just making stuff up and seeing things lol

Thanks. :D

Jayhovah 01-24-2018 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3724444)
I have a question that I feel the answer to it is very simple and I am just not seeing it, so because I am curious and want to know, I will ask it anyway!

How is it that the blower after the Air-to-Air kit is facing down??? But the sticker for Stillen label is still facing the same direction as if when the Supercharger was first installed?

Wouldn't it if I rotated my blower downward like the one in the Air-to-Air kit, it the label would be facing <----- instead of upward?

Or is the blower able to be rotated somehow like that with the air-to-air kit installation?

Or...am I just making stuff up and seeing things lol

Thanks. :D

You only rotate the volute (the part that looks like a snail shell).

cupcakez 01-24-2018 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3724446)
You only rotate the volute (the part that looks like a snail shell).

Oh...lol. Okay so it was simpler than I thought.
Thanks man. I didn't know you could isolate and rotate that part only!
Is it a bolt I have to loosen or something to be able to rotate it or does it just rotate when you force it to?

Jayhovah 01-24-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3724448)
Oh...lol. Okay so it was simpler than I thought.
Thanks man. I didn't know you could isolate and rotate that part only!
Is it a bolt I have to loosen or something to be able to rotate it or does it just rotate when you force it to?

I'm assuming bolts... but I'll let someone more informed take it from here since I do not have an SC.

overtureZ 01-24-2018 12:59 PM

It's a few Allen head bolts that hold the volute to the blower via brackets

cupcakez 01-24-2018 01:08 PM

Thanks everyone for your responses! Helps me out a lot :D Now I feel better about when I do get the Air-to-Air upgrade~~

overtureZ 01-24-2018 02:19 PM

Dooooooo it

cupcakez 01-24-2018 03:54 PM

Yeah, I just need to save up the cash to be able to buy it :D
Maybe in a couple months xD
Super excited though for it!

cupcakez 02-07-2018 12:40 PM

Question:

Long story short: -->
1) My stock vq37 motor recently blew out.
2) A rod shot out of the engine and is now literally missing and there are two holes in my engine xD

I ordered a new engine from Import Parts Pro (IPP)
I ordered this: (Rated up to 850 WHP)
This Package includes:

Products in bold are upgraded from previous stage

Wiseco or JE Pistons .020 over
Carillo H Beam Rods
ARP WMC 3/8" Rod Bolts
ARP L19 Head Bolts

Block inspected and cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Rotating assembly balanced
Crank magnafluxed and the journals micro-polished
New Moly coated Race Spec main bearings installed
New Moly coated Nissan OEM rod bearings installed
Block prepped and assembled
Cometic Head Gaskets
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled
New OEM Oil Pump

Engine will come with Heads bolted to block and torqued to spec
=============================================

Does this mean with this brand new high performance engine, I could safely swap out the 3 pulleys on the belt for different sizes causing it to spin faster safely?

Or would this still not be a good idea until I get the 928 impeller upgrade?

Any advice / thoughts / opinions / facts are appreciated.

Thank you guys!!

jwick 02-07-2018 02:06 PM

Good choice on long block!

redondoaveb 02-07-2018 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3728443)
Question:

Long story short: -->
1) My stock vq37 motor recently blew out.
2) A rod shot out of the engine and is now literally missing and there are two holes in my engine xD

I ordered a new engine from Import Parts Pro (IPP)
I ordered this: (Rated up to 850 WHP)
This Package includes:

Products in bold are upgraded from previous stage

Wiseco or JE Pistons .020 over
Carillo H Beam Rods
ARP WMC 3/8" Rod Bolts
ARP L19 Head Bolts

Block inspected and cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Rotating assembly balanced
Crank magnafluxed and the journals micro-polished
New Moly coated Race Spec main bearings installed
New Moly coated Nissan OEM rod bearings installed
Block prepped and assembled
Cometic Head Gaskets
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled
New OEM Oil Pump

Engine will come with Heads bolted to block and torqued to spec
=============================================

Does this mean with this brand new high performance engine, I could safely swap out the 3 pulleys on the belt for different sizes causing it to spin faster safely?

Or would this still not be a good idea until I get the 928 impeller upgrade?

Any advice / thoughts / opinions / facts are appreciated.

Thank you guys!!

The motor will handle power from the pulley upgrades no problem. If you're going to be spinning the sc at that high of an rpm then you would want to do the ceramic bearing upgrade. If you're planning to do the 928 impeller upgrade you should just do the "Super Vortech" upgrade which would include the bearings.

Also, keep in mind. Since you're in California (like me), you my not be able to run the boost that the pulley upgrade will give you on 91 octane. You may be limited to e85.

Oh yeah, by the way, nice motor!

cupcakez 02-07-2018 03:46 PM

Heard! Thank you for your guys' feedback!
I suppose between now and 10 to 11 weeks from now, because I have a dead engine and also a dead battery (drained it while waiting for a tow truck to come lol while charging my phone), the best time to get the 928 super vortech impeller upgrade would be within those 10 weeks of waiting!
I would just need to take the blower out and send it to them! And their turnaround is 2 weeks average for a full round trip of blower sending from me to them to me again after upgrade is complete.

So conclusion from what I take:
- No point in swapping the pulleys out until I get the 928 upgrade, even though I have a much stronger motor now, correct? Or am I wrong?

PS - Thanks :) In about 10 weeks, the stock motor blowout will have been a blessing to me now that I am forced to get a new motor which I was planning to do couple years from now lol

URBiN~HURMiT 02-07-2018 04:04 PM

[QUOTE=cupcakez;3728443]Question:

Long story short: -->
1) My stock vq37 motor recently blew out.
2) A rod shot out of the engine and is now literally missing and there are two holes in my engine xD

I ordered a new engine from Import Parts Pro (IPP)
I ordered this: (Rated up to 850 WHP)
This Package includes:

Products in bold are upgraded from previous stage

Wiseco or JE Pistons .020 over
Carillo H Beam Rods
ARP WMC 3/8" Rod Bolts
ARP L19 Head Bolts

Block inspected and cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Rotating assembly balanced
Crank magnafluxed and the journals micro-polished
New Moly coated Race Spec main bearings installed
New Moly coated Nissan OEM rod bearings installed
Block prepped and assembled
Cometic Head Gaskets
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled
New OEM Oil Pump

Engine will come with Heads bolted to block and torqued to spec
=============================================

I had the same motor built by IPP ... all except for the Cometic head gaskets and I went for the 9.5:1 CR Carillo pistons to compliment the H Beam Rods.
Sent the car down to AAM for their Stage 2 Turbos.
A lot of extra's including EcuTek Tune.
It made 803 whp and 809 wtq according to their Dyno.
Happiness was short lived - never got to take it home - the IPP built motor blew while it was still down there ... blew the rings, pistons, and bent a few valves.
Be careful and don't go for broke on your first Tune ...

cupcakez 02-07-2018 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=URBiN~HURMiT;3728487]
Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3728443)
Question:

Long story short: -->
1) My stock vq37 motor recently blew out.
2) A rod shot out of the engine and is now literally missing and there are two holes in my engine xD

I ordered a new engine from Import Parts Pro (IPP)
I ordered this: (Rated up to 850 WHP)
This Package includes:

Products in bold are upgraded from previous stage

Wiseco or JE Pistons .020 over
Carillo H Beam Rods
ARP WMC 3/8" Rod Bolts
ARP L19 Head Bolts

Block inspected and cleaned
Block redecked
Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
Rotating assembly balanced
Crank magnafluxed and the journals micro-polished
New Moly coated Race Spec main bearings installed
New Moly coated Nissan OEM rod bearings installed
Block prepped and assembled
Cometic Head Gaskets
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled
New OEM Oil Pump

Engine will come with Heads bolted to block and torqued to spec
=============================================

I had the same motor built by IPP ... all except for the Cometic head gaskets and I went for the 9.5:1 CR Carillo pistons to compliment the H Beam Rods.
Sent the car down to AAM for their Stage 2 Turbos.
A lot of extra's including EcuTek Tune.
It made 803 whp and 809 wtq according to their Dyno.
Happiness was short lived - never got to take it home - the IPP built motor blew while it was still down there ... blew the rings, pistons, and bent a few valves.
Be careful and don't go for broke on your first Tune ...

Crap you scaring me now haha.

I understand that the engine comes with a 1 year warranty so if it defects by any reason within the 1 year of me having it, I can have it taken care of by IPP. I asked him what if I have a lot of aftermarket parts in my engine, would you still be able to take care of it then if it still blew out for whatever reason? He said yeah, it would still be taken care of -- as long as it is properly maintained and everything -- and that the error was on their end and not mine. Obviously now I can't be blamed for "over running " the engine with too much power because I only have a Stillen Supercharger in it at the moment, as well as a Quaife LSD & KW V3 but none of those would make the motor blow out.

Thanks for the heads up man, I appreciate it, and will be careful.

I was told to swap out the spark plugs for the GTR ones, and my mechanic who will do the engine swap told me that the stillen CC injectors that came with the kit is more than enough unless I want to go e85 then I will need to change out the fuel injectors for bigger ones, as well as fuel system to support e85 safely.

At the same time, he told me that I will need to get it tuned by an ECUTEK tune from a local shop around me as well, to safely run the car.

I had just forgot to ask him about the pulley swaps and if I should either:
A) Wait until I get the 928 super vortech impeller ceramic bearing upgrade
OR
B) It will be safe and beneficial for me still to swap out the pulleys even though I don't have the 928 ceramic bearing upgrade yet (As in it also won't shorten my lifespan of the blower by a lot if I did it without the upgrade)

redondoaveb 02-07-2018 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3728482)
Heard! Thank you for your guys' feedback!
I suppose between now and 10 to 11 weeks from now, because I have a dead engine and also a dead battery (drained it while waiting for a tow truck to come lol while charging my phone), the best time to get the 928 super vortech impeller upgrade would be within those 10 weeks of waiting!
I would just need to take the blower out and send it to them! And their turnaround is 2 weeks average for a full round trip of blower sending from me to them to me again after upgrade is complete.

So conclusion from what I take:
- No point in swapping the pulleys out until I get the 928 upgrade, even though I have a much stronger motor now, correct? Or am I wrong?

PS - Thanks :) In about 10 weeks, the stock motor blowout will have been a blessing to me now that I am forced to get a new motor which I was planning to do couple years from now lol

No point in swapping the pulleys out until you get the super vortech upgrade as you want the ceramic bearings for the pulley upgrade. Are you going to get your car tuned by Seb, if so, call him and talk to him about your pulley upgrade. I have the 9 psi pulley installed with the Si sc and am seeing a little over 10 psi and 470 hp on 91 octane and 541 on e85. I have a 2.85 sc pulley ready to go on but Seb is a little hesitant to tune with it due to possible knock with the higher boost it will produce and running 91 octane.
Also, I highly recommend getting Tbatt's belt tensioner kit. I have no belt slippage at all. Seb was so impressed with it that he emailed me to find out where I got it, he wanted to order one for himself.

cupcakez 02-07-2018 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3728489)
No point in swapping the pulleys out until you get the super vortech upgrade as you want the ceramic bearings for the pulley upgrade. Are you going to get your car tuned by Seb, if so, call him and talk to him about your pulley upgrade. I have the 9 psi pulley installed with the Si sc and am seeing a little over 10 psi and 470 hp on 91 octane and 541 on e85. I have a 2.85 sc pulley ready to go on but Seb is a little hesitant to tune with it due to possible knock with the higher boost it will produce and running 91 octane.
Also, I highly recommend getting Tbatt's belt tensioner kit. I have no belt slippage at all. Seb was so impressed with it that he emailed me to find out where I got it, he wanted to order one for himself.

Emailed Seb. regarding a possible tune and about the pullley swap topic -- whether or not he thinks its worth it or not.

Doesnt the 928 place offer an option in which they send you the ceramic bearing parts / impeller and you can have a professional install it into the blower as well?

Or am I tripping and I am making up that option? lol

If so, I may ask them to send it for the cheaper price and then have a local shop install it who specializes in aftermarket parts as well (assuming they say they can do it after I call & ask)

I had the 2.85" pulley but returned it after research to find out the 3" would better suit my end goals.

redondoaveb 02-07-2018 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3728516)
Emailed Seb. regarding a possible tune and about the pullley swap topic -- whether or not he thinks its worth it or not.

Doesnt the 928 place offer an option in which they send you the ceramic bearing parts / impeller and you can have a professional install it into the blower as well?

Or am I tripping and I am making up that option? lol

If so, I may ask them to send it for the cheaper price and then have a local shop install it who specializes in aftermarket parts as well (assuming they say they can do it after I call & ask)

I had the 2.85" pulley but returned it after research to find out the 3" would better suit my end goals.

Seb was great at answering all my questions (even some dumb ones). :rofl2: The pulleys are definitely worth it, it's just a matter of how much boost you can safely run with the fuel you'll be using. That's where Seb comes in.

You can definitely just purchase the parts from 928 and if I remember right they have a list of recommended installers on their site.

If I do another pulley upgrade I'll probably do the 3" instead of the 2.85 too.

cupcakez 02-08-2018 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3728526)
Seb was great at answering all my questions (even some dumb ones). :rofl2: The pulleys are definitely worth it, it's just a matter of how much boost you can safely run with the fuel you'll be using. That's where Seb comes in.

You can definitely just purchase the parts from 928 and if I remember right they have a list of recommended installers on their site.

If I do another pulley upgrade I'll probably do the 3" instead of the 2.85 too.

You are right. I wasn't seeing things then. I went to check again on the website and it was definitely an option to do so. A standard or premium? package for half the price. And you dont have to worry about them taking forever to send it back either.
I also would assume any aftermarket automechanical shop could do the install for less than 600 to 700 lol seeing as the blower is small, not extremely complicated, and the kit comes with 6 small pieces.

i think I will go that route :)
That plus the pulley swaps.

Im wondering maybe since my motor is not going to be stock anymore, I could possibly run a 2.85" pulley safely with Sebz tune?

I also had a question:
Is Sebz tuning like $950 for each time you want your car tuned, or do you pay for a set of tunes that you can use throughout a certain time period...or none of the above?

TopgunZ 02-08-2018 09:36 AM

Hey guys. Just in case people are not looking at new threads, here is a link to my stand alone supercharger kit for sale.

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...rger-kits.html

redondoaveb 02-08-2018 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3728587)
You are right. I wasn't seeing things then. I went to check again on the website and it was definitely an option to do so. A standard or premium? package for half the price. And you dont have to worry about them taking forever to send it back either.
I also would assume any aftermarket automechanical shop could do the install for less than 600 to 700 lol seeing as the blower is small, not extremely complicated, and the kit comes with 6 small pieces.

i think I will go that route :)
That plus the pulley swaps.

Im wondering maybe since my motor is not going to be stock anymore, I could possibly run a 2.85" pulley safely with Sebz tune?

I also had a question:
Is Sebz tuning like $950 for each time you want your car tuned, or do you pay for a set of tunes that you can use throughout a certain time period...or none of the above?

I'm not sure what the difference is between standard and premium package? I'm also wondering if Specialty Z could do the bearing and impeller install.

Your other questions would be better answered by Seb.

cupcakez 02-08-2018 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3728784)
I'm not sure what the difference is between standard and premium package? I'm also wondering if Specialty Z could do the bearing and impeller install.

Your other questions would be better answered by Seb.

Premium Package:
2 matched Timken ceramic high-speed bearings
2 HSS input shaft bearings
1 Premium High-Speed Mechanical Seal
1 PTFE-coated Viton input shaft seal

Standard Package:
2 input shaft bearings
2 matched impeller shaft thrust bearings
1 Viton input shaft seal
1 PTFE-coated Viton impeller shaft seal

Yup. I asked Seb just not too long ago.

SpecialtyZ, at least Seb has not swapped out bearings on a supercharger yet, but said the wheel is very easy and straight forward to swap out.

mikey1600 02-09-2018 08:54 AM

My builds currently at the shop being sorted, long story short took to a mates workshop who ****** the install of the wiring of the fuel pump stuff, so it's having to be re-done/fixed up...

I've got 9lb pulley, Si trim upgrade, S1.SE fuel system with 340 pump and 1050idx injectors, topgunz A2A kit etc.. will be running on E85 only.

Guessing this will give around 500rwhp here in Aus, our dyno's always seem to run low, what is the next step that will put the fuel system to 90% or so? Is there some other pulleys I can change to take advantage of more boost?

cupcakez 02-09-2018 09:10 AM

Yeah. I have done extensive research on pulleys and with the help of quite a few members of this forum!

I will be glad to share the information!!
This is what I will be doing for optimal boost gains!

BUT AFTER...I get the A2A kit installed, Super Vortech Impeller Upgrade from 928 motorsports, and when my engine is finished being installed. Although I plan to swap out the 3.0 for a 2.85 possibly -- because I will have a much stronger engine :) But will need to do more research on that first.

- Vortech 8 Rib 3.47 Inch Supercharger Drive Pulley (Jack side) 2A038-347
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/vor-2a038-347
- $100

- Vortech Supercharger Pulley 3.0'' (Supercharger Side) 2A038-300
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/vor-2a038-300
- $102

- 9psi pulley (Replace the 8psi pulley that the stillen kit came with which is on jackshaft serpentine side)
https://conceptzperformance.com/stil...13_p_19055.php
- $220

Peshinho 02-09-2018 03:40 PM

Hello
I have a 2010 370z
Admin tuned
Stillen sc
928 and stillen 9psi pulley
A2A kit
And much more


Enter the dyno with 460whp in 93 Ron and left with 533whp on 93 Ron + meth.
Thank to Aaron for kid great kit and all the advices.
Thanks to admin tuning. Moncef you are the man.
This numbers were on Dyno hot as hell. It was over 45 degrees Celsius and the car was hitting only 11 psi and on the street it hits 14 psi. So this 533whp will be much more on the street.

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cupcakez 02-09-2018 03:47 PM

Nice Numbers man!!!! Although I don't know what Ron means, it sounds good to me!! Numbers don't lie! (usually) xD

And hot damn 45 degrees C? I'm so glad I don't live in an area that hot otherwise I would melt every single time

Peshinho 02-09-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3729126)
Nice Numbers man!!!! Although I don't know what Ron means, it sounds good to me!! Numbers don't lie! (usually) xD

And hot damn 45 degrees C? I'm so glad I don't live in an area that hot otherwise I would melt every single time

Thanks bro.

93 Ron is for you to know that kind of fuel I have here. It's the same 93 Ron they use in the USA. Then they have e85 which is the best fuel to use in my opinion. I will try it some day :)

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cupcakez 02-09-2018 03:59 PM

Do they not have e85 over where you live in Argentina?

Peshinho 02-09-2018 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3729129)
Do they not have e85 over where you live in Argentina?

We have to do it ourselves. Not e85 stations lol

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cupcakez 02-09-2018 04:08 PM

You have to do what yourselves? Make the e85 from scratch? :o

Peshinho 02-09-2018 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakez (Post 3729136)
You have to do what yourselves? Make the e85 from scratch? :o

Yes. Sir.

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