700hp twin turbo project

V1H · 03-09-2016, 03:11 PM

Oh my science! What combustile force could split a piston in half and bend that rod
I once melted a hole into my piston (reckless nitrous abuse on a VTEC motor)... But this? Pretty epic. Feel sorry for ur damage m8

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Rusty · 03-09-2016, 05:31 PM

Do a root cause analysis. Where do you start at?

What failed first? You can say that the motor ate it's self. It's out to lunch. It hand grenaded.

Memphis370Z · 03-09-2016, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

Do a root cause analysis. Where do you start at?

What failed first? You can say that the motor ate it's self. It's out to lunch. It hand grenaded.

I believe my first words, after a few expletives, while we were tearing down the engine were "near-complete catastrophic failure."

zguynate · 03-09-2016, 09:42 PM

This thing completely exploded. Part of my wiring harness on the transmission was a little charred too from the fire erupting from underneath my car when it happened lol.

None of the ring lands were broken on the remaining Pistons. None of the Pistons were melted or had any obvious lean damage from what I can tell. The only thing I can think of is either a rod snapped, or one of the rod bolts broke and a chain reaction of sorts happened.

zguynate · 03-29-2016, 10:32 AM

Minor and boring update ahead!:

Man this month has been a learning experience for me. I have always wondered why getting a built motor takes so long. Well I have learned that when you're working on other peoples time, sometimes things don't go as planned.

I picked my motor up from the machine shop. It wasn't balanced because I want to size my bearings and check the clearances myself. I ordered my bearings and paid for 2 day shipping so I could hurry up and get it back to the machine shop for balancing. After some trouble with the shipping dept, I finally got my bearings 11 days later.... Immediately drop off my assembly at the machine shop that has a good reputation. Well 4 days later I get a call saying that they can't balance the crank because they don't have enough bob weights since the crank is a 60 degree v6 crank. I went and picked it up and dropped it off at another machine shop that I should have taken it to in the first place. That was Friday and I was told 2 weeks. We will see. Its getting done slowly but surely.

Its probably not going to be done by ZDayZ. I have a lot to do, and a small window of time to do it. Even after I get it all assembled, I still have to break the engine in and go get it tuned.

With all of that being said, I have learned A LOT about this process, and will probably learn a lot more. This is the most fun I have had working on a car in a while. Not to mention I have purchased some cool tools to add to the toolbox. Win/win.

TBatt · 03-29-2016, 01:59 PM

Hey, can I buy that rod from you? I need a desk top "trophy"! That is awesome!

whiteZ34 · 03-29-2016, 02:20 PM

There's more to this then you're telling us lol. Your car definitely screamed, "Grenada!!!!" Then 5 seconds later went boom.

Rusty · 03-29-2016, 03:10 PM

In my experience. They always run their best before they go BOOM!

zguynate · 03-29-2016, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteZ34

There's more to this then you're telling us lol. Your car definitely screamed, "Grenada!!!!" Then 5 seconds later went boom.

Nope. I'm not omitting anything. It was running like a champ until it blew up. The only issues I had out of it were clutch related issues. Nothing motor related prior.

zguynate · 03-29-2016, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt

Hey, can I buy that rod from you? I need a desk top "trophy"! That is awesome!

I plan on keeping it and putting it on a plaque or making it into a "trophy" decorative piece lol.

Rusty · 03-29-2016, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath

I plan on keeping it and putting it on a plaque or making it into a "trophy" decorative piece lol.

Turn the block into a coffee table. The crank into a lamp stand. The heads as book ends. The intake as a center piece.

TBatt · 03-30-2016, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath

I plan on keeping it and putting it on a plaque or making it into a "trophy" decorative piece lol.

Have some fun with it and put it on eBay as a slightly used con rod.

McSpeed · 03-29-2016, 09:16 PM

Carnage!

zguynate · 07-21-2016, 12:43 PM

Alright. I know I have been slacking on updates guys! Im lazy. Also I have a bunch of pictures because everyone loves pictures. Anyway, continuing where I left off:

Like I mentioned earlier, Im replacing all of the bushings on the rear subframe to SPL. The bushing removal process was long, hard, and nasty like your moms college years. I burned them out and drilled out the rest. I thought my differential bushing was busted, but I figured out that it wasn't when I hit it with a drill bit. I had silicone fluid all over my face and had to clean it off of my Z and garage wall about 7 ft away lol. I havent put the bushings in yet because I have been lazy. I need to do my fuel stuff before I put the subframe back in anyway because it will be much easier to just drop the tank and work on it out of the car than to be cramped in the car working in limited space since its accessible now with the subframe out.

I finally ended up getting my stuff back from the machine shop for balancing. They told me it would be 2 weeks. It ended up being about 3 and a half. No biggie. Ive learned that these time tables are very fluid lol. After getting my stuff back from the machine shop I sent the bearings to Calico Coatings to be coated in their magical wizard powder. These guys are extremely professional and got them done extremely quickly. I sent them off and had them back within the week. I was very impressed with their company.

I started engine assembly shortly after I got them back. This was a tedious process because I'm a little obsessive about doing this right. I can't tell you how many times I checked the ring gaps and bearing clearances lol. Also I was paranoid about the head studs since they are the L19 studs. I was very careful not to touch them at all when putting them in, and after getting them in nice and snug my brother comes over and touches one lol.... I quickly cleaned it off, and moved forward.

I decided since the motor is out, now is the perfect time to do the JWT cams. The "kit" comes with new shims and springs. If anyone ever attempts to DIY cams, do yourself a favor and buy the JWT spring compressor tool. I used an old school spring compressor and had to use an O2 socket in order to compress the spring. It was a huge PITA, but I was able to get it done. Trust me on this, save yourself the headache and spend the extra money. Not to mention the cams didnt come with any instructions. Now most people will say, they are cams you idiot, you don't need instructions. Thats what I said to myself too. Well after I got the cams, VVEL ladder, rear timing cover, and most of the timing stuff on, I realized that when putting the new longer exhaust cam bolts through the cam gear that I had two little plugs left over in the bag. I looked on Jim Wolfs website and no mention of what they are. After some research and deductive reasoning I discovered that the plugs go in the back of the cams.... Idiot me. So I had to remove the rear timing cover and VVEL ladder and a few other covers, which really sucked the big one because of all of the RTV that needed to be cleaned. After a good 6 hours I finally made it back to where I could put the timing stuff back on.

So with the motor finally assembled I feel a breath of fresh air. I have started putting the AAM turbo stuff together. The lines on the turbos were a little confusing at first, but after some research and help from Ibenjammin, I think I've got them figured out. I will say that running the lines isn't very exciting but it needs to be done I guess lol.

Thats pretty much where Im at now. Just waiting on some fuel stuff to be ready with CJM before I place my order and start moving on that. All I really lack in parts is fuel components. Once those come in I can really start moving and putting stuff back in the car. Needless to say I'm pretty stoked. Most of the "hard" work is done. I know I'm a little wordy with these, but I want to share the whole story so maybe someone else can learn from my mistakes or from these experiences.

I have a few other things going in as well. I bought the EPS throttle bodies because I have heard good things, and since Im already balls deep, why not go all out on my little mild build. I also got the Greddy Profec whatever boost controller as recommended by Jon at Z1 and the Z1 34 row oil cooler since my last one was sold with the BP kit.

At this moment, my Z has been dead just 2 weeks shy of a year. Man I'm itching to get back into it. ZdayZ didnt help any. It killed me not to have it there. I also drove a friends stock Z a few weeks ago and it felt like a damn rocketship compared to my Rogue and Accord that I have been driving as a daily lol. I can only imagine what my Z will feel like once I get it going again, provided that it actually starts lmao.

jaytirbhaw · 07-21-2016, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath

Alright. I know I have been slacking on updates guys! Im lazy. Also I have a bunch of pictures because everyone loves pictures. Anyway, continuing where I left off:

Like I mentioned earlier, Im replacing all of the bushings on the rear subframe to SPL. The bushing removal process was long, hard, and nasty like your moms college years. I burned them out and drilled out the rest. I thought my differential bushing was busted, but I figured out that it wasn't when I hit it with a drill bit. I had silicone fluid all over my face and had to clean it off of my Z and garage wall about 7 ft away lol. I havent put the bushings in yet because I have been lazy. I need to do my fuel stuff before I put the subframe back in anyway because it will be much easier to just drop the tank and work on it out of the car than to be cramped in the car working in limited space since its accessible now with the subframe out.

I finally ended up getting my stuff back from the machine shop for balancing. They told me it would be 2 weeks. It ended up being about 3 and a half. No biggie. Ive learned that these time tables are very fluid lol. After getting my stuff back from the machine shop I sent the bearings to Calico Coatings to be coated in their magical wizard powder. These guys are extremely professional and got them done extremely quickly. I sent them off and had them back within the week. I was very impressed with their company.

I started engine assembly shortly after I got them back. This was a tedious process because I'm a little obsessive about doing this right. I can't tell you how many times I checked the ring gaps and bearing clearances lol. Also I was paranoid about the head studs since they are the L19 studs. I was very careful not to touch them at all when putting them in, and after getting them in nice and snug my brother comes over and touches one lol.... I quickly cleaned it off, and moved forward.

I decided since the motor is out, now is the perfect time to do the JWT cams. The "kit" comes with new shims and springs. If anyone ever attempts to DIY cams, do yourself a favor and buy the JWT spring compressor tool. I used an old school spring compressor and had to use an O2 socket in order to compress the spring. It was a huge PITA, but I was able to get it done. Trust me on this, save yourself the headache and spend the extra money. Not to mention the cams didnt come with any instructions. Now most people will say, they are cams you idiot, you don't need instructions. Thats what I said to myself too. Well after I got the cams, VVEL ladder, rear timing cover, and most of the timing stuff on, I realized that when putting the new longer exhaust cam bolts through the cam gear that I had two little plugs left over in the bag. I looked on Jim Wolfs website and no mention of what they are. After some research and deductive reasoning I discovered that the plugs go in the back of the cams.... Idiot me. So I had to remove the rear timing cover and VVEL ladder and a few other covers, which really sucked the big one because of all of the RTV that needed to be cleaned. After a good 6 hours I finally made it back to where I could put the timing stuff back on.

So with the motor finally assembled I feel a breath of fresh air. I have started putting the AAM turbo stuff together. The lines on the turbos were a little confusing at first, but after some research and help from Ibenjammin, I think I've got them figured out. I will say that running the lines isn't very exciting but it needs to be done I guess lol.

Thats pretty much where Im at now. Just waiting on some fuel stuff to be ready with CJM before I place my order and start moving on that. All I really lack in parts is fuel components. Once those come in I can really start moving and putting stuff back in the car. Needless to say I'm pretty stoked. Most of the "hard" work is done. I know I'm a little wordy with these, but I want to share the whole story so maybe someone else can learn from my mistakes or from these experiences.

I have a few other things going in as well. I bought the EPS throttle bodies because I have heard good things, and since Im already balls deep, why not go all out on my little mild build. I also got the Greddy Profec whatever boost controller as recommended by Jon at Z1 and the Z1 34 row oil cooler since my last one was sold with the BP kit.

At this moment, my Z has been dead just 2 weeks shy of a year. Man I'm itching to get back into it. ZdayZ didnt help any. It killed me not to have it there. I also drove a friends stock Z a few weeks ago and it felt like a damn rocketship compared to my Rogue and Accord that I have been driving as a daily lol. I can only imagine what my Z will feel like once I get it going again, provided that it actually starts lmao.

nice progress bro !

03-09-2016, 03:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
V1H Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 244 Drives: 2013 370Z-TT GT Edt Rep Power: 3368	Oh my science! What combustile force could split a piston in half and bend that rod I once melted a hole into my piston (reckless nitrous abuse on a VTEC motor)... But this? Pretty epic. Feel sorry for ur damage m8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk zguynate likes this. __________________ 501 BHP, 590 Nm (422 rwhp) *AAM* TT+I/Plenum\|*CJM* S1 FRS\|*C/Clutch* Stage 2\|*RJM* CMC\|*ZSpeed* CSC\|Z1 Oil cooler\|*Motordyne* Turbo ShockWave)))\|*Torqen* Coilovers\|*Stanceparts* AirCups\|*Amuse* bodykit\|*GReddy\|AEM\|ONEighty\|Mishimoto\|STILLEN\|Eibach\|SPL\|B&M\|Radium\|EcuTek\|BC Forged* RS45

03-09-2016, 05:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rusty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 70 Posts: 35,571 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684440	Do a root cause analysis. Where do you start at? What failed first? You can say that the motor ate it's self. It's out to lunch. It hand grenaded. gbrettin, zguynate and Memphis370Z like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-09-2016, 09:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 75	This thing completely exploded. Part of my wiring harness on the transmission was a little charred too from the fire erupting from underneath my car when it happened lol. None of the ring lands were broken on the remaining Pistons. None of the Pistons were melted or had any obvious lean damage from what I can tell. The only thing I can think of is either a rod snapped, or one of the rod bolts broke and a chain reaction of sorts happened. steiner711 likes this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

03-29-2016, 10:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 75	Minor and boring update ahead!: Man this month has been a learning experience for me. I have always wondered why getting a built motor takes so long. Well I have learned that when you're working on other peoples time, sometimes things don't go as planned. I picked my motor up from the machine shop. It wasn't balanced because I want to size my bearings and check the clearances myself. I ordered my bearings and paid for 2 day shipping so I could hurry up and get it back to the machine shop for balancing. After some trouble with the shipping dept, I finally got my bearings 11 days later.... Immediately drop off my assembly at the machine shop that has a good reputation. Well 4 days later I get a call saying that they can't balance the crank because they don't have enough bob weights since the crank is a 60 degree v6 crank. I went and picked it up and dropped it off at another machine shop that I should have taken it to in the first place. That was Friday and I was told 2 weeks. We will see. Its getting done slowly but surely. Its probably not going to be done by ZDayZ. I have a lot to do, and a small window of time to do it. Even after I get it all assembled, I still have to break the engine in and go get it tuned. With all of that being said, I have learned A LOT about this process, and will probably learn a lot more. This is the most fun I have had working on a car in a while. Not to mention I have purchased some cool tools to add to the toolbox. Win/win. Rusty, Rid3_FaM0uS, tturbo370z and 4 others like this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

03-29-2016, 01:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
TBatt Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20170	Hey, can I buy that rod from you? I need a desk top "trophy"! That is awesome! zguynate likes this. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!

03-29-2016, 02:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
whiteZ34 Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 34 Posts: 217 Drives: 2012 Boosted 370z Rep Power: 13	There's more to this then you're telling us lol. Your car definitely screamed, "Grenada!!!!" Then 5 seconds later went boom. __________________ R/T Built motor, wiseco 9:1 Pistons, Eagle H-beam rods, ARP L-19\| BP kit, PTE 6766, EPS 70mm TB, GTR Intake, PRS lower conversion\| ID1000cc, CJM Twin pump 340&255, PRS Rails, CJM fuel return\| Fast Intentions\| R/T Tuned, 660WHP 596WTQ at 18lbs. 93 octane

03-29-2016, 03:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rusty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 70 Posts: 35,571 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684440	In my experience. They always run their best before they go BOOM! zguynate, TBatt and whiteZ34 like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-29-2016, 09:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
McSpeed Base Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 41 Drives: 12 370Z Nismo MG, M6 Rep Power: 11	Carnage! zguynate likes this.

07-21-2016, 12:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,054 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 75	Alright. I know I have been slacking on updates guys! Im lazy. Also I have a bunch of pictures because everyone loves pictures. Anyway, continuing where I left off: Like I mentioned earlier, Im replacing all of the bushings on the rear subframe to SPL. The bushing removal process was long, hard, and nasty like your moms college years. I burned them out and drilled out the rest. I thought my differential bushing was busted, but I figured out that it wasn't when I hit it with a drill bit. I had silicone fluid all over my face and had to clean it off of my Z and garage wall about 7 ft away lol. I havent put the bushings in yet because I have been lazy. I need to do my fuel stuff before I put the subframe back in anyway because it will be much easier to just drop the tank and work on it out of the car than to be cramped in the car working in limited space since its accessible now with the subframe out. I finally ended up getting my stuff back from the machine shop for balancing. They told me it would be 2 weeks. It ended up being about 3 and a half. No biggie. Ive learned that these time tables are very fluid lol. After getting my stuff back from the machine shop I sent the bearings to Calico Coatings to be coated in their magical wizard powder. These guys are extremely professional and got them done extremely quickly. I sent them off and had them back within the week. I was very impressed with their company. I started engine assembly shortly after I got them back. This was a tedious process because I'm a little obsessive about doing this right. I can't tell you how many times I checked the ring gaps and bearing clearances lol. Also I was paranoid about the head studs since they are the L19 studs. I was very careful not to touch them at all when putting them in, and after getting them in nice and snug my brother comes over and touches one lol.... I quickly cleaned it off, and moved forward. I decided since the motor is out, now is the perfect time to do the JWT cams. The "kit" comes with new shims and springs. If anyone ever attempts to DIY cams, do yourself a favor and buy the JWT spring compressor tool. I used an old school spring compressor and had to use an O2 socket in order to compress the spring. It was a huge PITA, but I was able to get it done. Trust me on this, save yourself the headache and spend the extra money. Not to mention the cams didnt come with any instructions. Now most people will say, they are cams you idiot, you don't need instructions. Thats what I said to myself too. Well after I got the cams, VVEL ladder, rear timing cover, and most of the timing stuff on, I realized that when putting the new longer exhaust cam bolts through the cam gear that I had two little plugs left over in the bag. I looked on Jim Wolfs website and no mention of what they are. After some research and deductive reasoning I discovered that the plugs go in the back of the cams.... Idiot me. So I had to remove the rear timing cover and VVEL ladder and a few other covers, which really sucked the big one because of all of the RTV that needed to be cleaned. After a good 6 hours I finally made it back to where I could put the timing stuff back on. So with the motor finally assembled I feel a breath of fresh air. I have started putting the AAM turbo stuff together. The lines on the turbos were a little confusing at first, but after some research and help from Ibenjammin, I think I've got them figured out. I will say that running the lines isn't very exciting but it needs to be done I guess lol. Thats pretty much where Im at now. Just waiting on some fuel stuff to be ready with CJM before I place my order and start moving on that. All I really lack in parts is fuel components. Once those come in I can really start moving and putting stuff back in the car. Needless to say I'm pretty stoked. Most of the "hard" work is done. I know I'm a little wordy with these, but I want to share the whole story so maybe someone else can learn from my mistakes or from these experiences. I have a few other things going in as well. I bought the EPS throttle bodies because I have heard good things, and since Im already balls deep, why not go all out on my little mild build. I also got the Greddy Profec whatever boost controller as recommended by Jon at Z1 and the Z1 34 row oil cooler since my last one was sold with the BP kit. At this moment, my Z has been dead just 2 weeks shy of a year. Man I'm itching to get back into it. ZdayZ didnt help any. It killed me not to have it there. I also drove a friends stock Z a few weeks ago and it felt like a damn rocketship compared to my Rogue and Accord that I have been driving as a daily lol. I can only imagine what my Z will feel like once I get it going again, provided that it actually starts lmao. jaytirbhaw, blueranger, Hotrodz and 5 others like this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package Last edited by zguynate; 10-06-2017 at 05:43 PM.

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