700hp twin turbo project

Streetz · 03-09-2016, 01:29 PM

I used stock Bearings in my built Vq35de. I Just replaced them last year because I thought after 60k miles and 10 years they would be worn. Pulled them out and they looked brand new. Still had the marks on the bearing material from where we measured them. Car has seen some high power too. I was really impressed with how they were holding up.

zguynate · 03-09-2016, 02:25 PM

I finally had some time to get the old motor torn apart. Holy ****.

While taking the accessories and wiring harness off the engine kept spitting goodies at us (Mempihs370z) through the hole in the oil pan.

As you can see in the pictures above, things got crazy in there. The water pump had metal shavings hanging out in there. I knew when I took the heads off, there was going to be some carnage. Well behold:

Pistons 2,4,6:

Cylinders 1,3,5:

Close ups:

Needless to say, there isn't much left to keep lol.

Chuck33079 · 03-09-2016, 02:31 PM

That is a truly impressive amount of destruction.

V1H · 03-09-2016, 03:11 PM

Oh my science! What combustile force could split a piston in half and bend that rod
I once melted a hole into my piston (reckless nitrous abuse on a VTEC motor)... But this? Pretty epic. Feel sorry for ur damage m8

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Rusty · 03-09-2016, 05:31 PM

Do a root cause analysis. Where do you start at?

What failed first? You can say that the motor ate it's self. It's out to lunch. It hand grenaded.

Memphis370Z · 03-09-2016, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty

Do a root cause analysis. Where do you start at?

What failed first? You can say that the motor ate it's self. It's out to lunch. It hand grenaded.

I believe my first words, after a few expletives, while we were tearing down the engine were "near-complete catastrophic failure."

zguynate · 03-09-2016, 09:42 PM

This thing completely exploded. Part of my wiring harness on the transmission was a little charred too from the fire erupting from underneath my car when it happened lol.

None of the ring lands were broken on the remaining Pistons. None of the Pistons were melted or had any obvious lean damage from what I can tell. The only thing I can think of is either a rod snapped, or one of the rod bolts broke and a chain reaction of sorts happened.

zguynate · 03-29-2016, 10:32 AM

Minor and boring update ahead!:

Man this month has been a learning experience for me. I have always wondered why getting a built motor takes so long. Well I have learned that when you're working on other peoples time, sometimes things don't go as planned.

I picked my motor up from the machine shop. It wasn't balanced because I want to size my bearings and check the clearances myself. I ordered my bearings and paid for 2 day shipping so I could hurry up and get it back to the machine shop for balancing. After some trouble with the shipping dept, I finally got my bearings 11 days later.... Immediately drop off my assembly at the machine shop that has a good reputation. Well 4 days later I get a call saying that they can't balance the crank because they don't have enough bob weights since the crank is a 60 degree v6 crank. I went and picked it up and dropped it off at another machine shop that I should have taken it to in the first place. That was Friday and I was told 2 weeks. We will see. Its getting done slowly but surely.

Its probably not going to be done by ZDayZ. I have a lot to do, and a small window of time to do it. Even after I get it all assembled, I still have to break the engine in and go get it tuned.

With all of that being said, I have learned A LOT about this process, and will probably learn a lot more. This is the most fun I have had working on a car in a while. Not to mention I have purchased some cool tools to add to the toolbox. Win/win.

TBatt · 03-29-2016, 01:59 PM

Hey, can I buy that rod from you? I need a desk top "trophy"! That is awesome!

whiteZ34 · 03-29-2016, 02:20 PM

There's more to this then you're telling us lol. Your car definitely screamed, "Grenada!!!!" Then 5 seconds later went boom.

Rusty · 03-29-2016, 03:10 PM

In my experience. They always run their best before they go BOOM!

zguynate · 03-29-2016, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteZ34

There's more to this then you're telling us lol. Your car definitely screamed, "Grenada!!!!" Then 5 seconds later went boom.

Nope. I'm not omitting anything. It was running like a champ until it blew up. The only issues I had out of it were clutch related issues. Nothing motor related prior.

McSpeed · 03-29-2016, 09:16 PM

Carnage!

zguynate · 03-29-2016, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt

Hey, can I buy that rod from you? I need a desk top "trophy"! That is awesome!

I plan on keeping it and putting it on a plaque or making it into a "trophy" decorative piece lol.

Rusty · 03-29-2016, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath

I plan on keeping it and putting it on a plaque or making it into a "trophy" decorative piece lol.

Turn the block into a coffee table. The crank into a lamp stand. The heads as book ends. The intake as a center piece.

03-09-2016, 01:29 PM	#76 (permalink)
Streetz Base Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Chicago Posts: 59 Drives: 2011 370zTT 818whp Rep Power: 9	I used stock Bearings in my built Vq35de. I Just replaced them last year because I thought after 60k miles and 10 years they would be worn. Pulled them out and they looked brand new. Still had the marks on the bearing material from where we measured them. Car has seen some high power too. I was really impressed with how they were holding up. zguynate likes this.

03-09-2016, 02:25 PM	#77 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,053 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 73	I finally had some time to get the old motor torn apart. Holy ***. While taking the accessories and wiring harness off the engine kept spitting goodies at us (Mempihs370z) through the hole in the oil pan. As you can see in the pictures above, things got crazy in there. The water pump had metal shavings hanging out in there. I knew when I took the heads off, there was going to be some carnage. Well behold: Pistons 2,4,6: Cylinders 1,3,5: Close ups: Needless to say, there isn't much left to keep lol. jaytirbhaw, blueranger, Memphis370Z and 1 others like this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package Last edited by zguynate; 10-06-2017 at 05:38 PM.*

03-09-2016, 02:31 PM	#78 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	That is a truly impressive amount of destruction. jaytirbhaw, zguynate, TBatt and 1 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-09-2016, 03:11 PM	#79 (permalink)
V1H Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 244 Drives: 2013 370Z-TT GT Edt Rep Power: 3366	Oh my science! What combustile force could split a piston in half and bend that rod I once melted a hole into my piston (reckless nitrous abuse on a VTEC motor)... But this? Pretty epic. Feel sorry for ur damage m8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk zguynate likes this. __________________ 501 BHP, 590 Nm (422 rwhp) *AAM* TT+I/Plenum\|*CJM* S1 FRS\|*C/Clutch* Stage 2\|*RJM* CMC\|*ZSpeed* CSC\|Z1 Oil cooler\|*Motordyne* Turbo ShockWave)))\|*Torqen* Coilovers\|*Stanceparts* AirCups\|*Amuse* bodykit\|*GReddy\|AEM\|ONEighty\|Mishimoto\|STILLEN\|Eibach\|SPL\|B&M\|Radium\|EcuTek\|BC Forged* RS45

03-09-2016, 05:31 PM	#80 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,859 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	Do a root cause analysis. Where do you start at? What failed first? You can say that the motor ate it's self. It's out to lunch. It hand grenaded. gbrettin, zguynate and Memphis370Z like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-09-2016, 09:42 PM	#82 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,053 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 73	This thing completely exploded. Part of my wiring harness on the transmission was a little charred too from the fire erupting from underneath my car when it happened lol. None of the ring lands were broken on the remaining Pistons. None of the Pistons were melted or had any obvious lean damage from what I can tell. The only thing I can think of is either a rod snapped, or one of the rod bolts broke and a chain reaction of sorts happened. steiner711 likes this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

03-29-2016, 10:32 AM	#83 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,053 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 73	Minor and boring update ahead!: Man this month has been a learning experience for me. I have always wondered why getting a built motor takes so long. Well I have learned that when you're working on other peoples time, sometimes things don't go as planned. I picked my motor up from the machine shop. It wasn't balanced because I want to size my bearings and check the clearances myself. I ordered my bearings and paid for 2 day shipping so I could hurry up and get it back to the machine shop for balancing. After some trouble with the shipping dept, I finally got my bearings 11 days later.... Immediately drop off my assembly at the machine shop that has a good reputation. Well 4 days later I get a call saying that they can't balance the crank because they don't have enough bob weights since the crank is a 60 degree v6 crank. I went and picked it up and dropped it off at another machine shop that I should have taken it to in the first place. That was Friday and I was told 2 weeks. We will see. Its getting done slowly but surely. Its probably not going to be done by ZDayZ. I have a lot to do, and a small window of time to do it. Even after I get it all assembled, I still have to break the engine in and go get it tuned. With all of that being said, I have learned A LOT about this process, and will probably learn a lot more. This is the most fun I have had working on a car in a while. Not to mention I have purchased some cool tools to add to the toolbox. Win/win. Rusty, Rid3_FaM0uS, tturbo370z and 4 others like this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

03-29-2016, 01:59 PM	#84 (permalink)
TBatt Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20168	Hey, can I buy that rod from you? I need a desk top "trophy"! That is awesome! zguynate likes this. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!

03-29-2016, 02:20 PM	#85 (permalink)
whiteZ34 Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 32 Posts: 217 Drives: 2012 Boosted 370z Rep Power: 11	There's more to this then you're telling us lol. Your car definitely screamed, "Grenada!!!!" Then 5 seconds later went boom. __________________ R/T Built motor, wiseco 9:1 Pistons, Eagle H-beam rods, ARP L-19\| BP kit, PTE 6766, EPS 70mm TB, GTR Intake, PRS lower conversion\| ID1000cc, CJM Twin pump 340&255, PRS Rails, CJM fuel return\| Fast Intentions\| R/T Tuned, 660WHP 596WTQ at 18lbs. 93 octane

03-29-2016, 03:10 PM	#86 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 34,859 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684436	In my experience. They always run their best before they go BOOM! zguynate, TBatt and whiteZ34 like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-29-2016, 09:16 PM	#88 (permalink)
McSpeed Base Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 41 Drives: 12 370Z Nismo MG, M6 Rep Power: 9	Carnage! zguynate likes this.

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