Can someone tell me if ish* is possible?

ROBERT1183 · 11-05-2015, 10:28 AM

Ive even seen one come out of z1 with a tomei single making over 600whp at same boost level as me.

Hotrodz · 11-05-2015, 10:50 AM

I think some of you are missing a very important point that both bullitt and I made. The number makes since because it was done in 5th gear. Many numbers that a posted are 4th gear runs and I would suspect the number for the car in question would be pretty close to 565 or so in 4th gear at the same boost level.

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GeauxTigers1 · 11-05-2015, 01:32 PM

Agreed. So why don't more people run in 5th gear? Shoot, I'll take the higher number if that's what it gives me! LOL

Also, if this were the case (just basing off my personal thoughts not anything scientific or pretend that I really know what the hell I'm talking about) with this same set up at 605whp at 9.5psi, why is there no one with e85, running 13lbs and thus hitting well over 700 already? The torque should still be in line with the upper 500s if it's this low at 9.5 lbs right?

ROBERT1183 · 11-05-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by geauxtigers1

agreed. So why don't more people run in 5th gear? Shoot, i'll take the higher number if that's what it gives me! Lol

also, if this were the case (just basing off my personal thoughts not anything scientific or pretend that i really know what the hell i'm talking about) with this same set up at 605whp at 9.5psi, why is there no one with e85, running 13lbs and thus hitting well over 700 already? The torque should still be in line with the upper 500s if it's this low at 9.5 lbs right?

not readily available here is nj. Or not atleast by me

ROBERT1183 · 11-05-2015, 02:08 PM

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not readily available here is nj. Or not atleast by me

and trying to keep my tq under 450

njobe89 · 11-05-2015, 01:39 PM

as stated z1 does 5th gear pulls where others i believe do 4th gear pulls

Hotrodz · 11-05-2015, 02:34 PM

The one thing about the vq engine, no two are a like. Mine is a torque monster, she won't be dialed back so I can make more horsepower. I'm at 604whp and 550ish on torque. That is burning e85 and before ecutek I was 556whp and 552tq on 100 octane. My tuner had to stop because he couldn't keep the torque down and as bullitt said.... torque kills engines.

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ROBERT1183 · 11-05-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrodz

the one thing about the vq engine, no two are a like. Mine is a torque monster, she won't be dialed back so i can make more horsepower. I'm at 604whp and 550ish on torque. That is burning e85 and before ecutek i was 556whp and 552tq on 100 octane. My tuner had to stop because he couldn't keep the torque down and as bullitt said.... Torque kills engines.

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yeah thats more torque than i feel comfortable making on a stock block. Ecutek cars seem to make more torque than one tuned on uprev.

Hotrodz · 11-05-2015, 04:01 PM

Actually it is the opposite...the tuner has more control over timing and vvel parameters with EcuTek than UpRev and that is why the best tuners perfer Ecutek.

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ROBERT1183 · 11-06-2015, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrodz

actually it is the opposite...the tuner has more control over timing and vvel parameters with ecutek than uprev and that is why the best tuners perfer ecutek.

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just going by what ive seen.

John@Z1 · 11-05-2015, 04:57 PM

Mark's car made 583 in 4th gear and here is the 5th gear pull. I'm also at 86% duty cycle with the 1000cc and no fuel return. Timing is very low on this tune. Also the vehicle was tuned in 4th gear and cleaned up in 5th. The 4th gear run is always smoother and looks the best on a dyno graph.:

Hotrodz · 11-05-2015, 05:34 PM

Thanks for jumping on and providing clarity for folks.

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phunk · 11-06-2015, 02:53 AM

Sounds fair enough to me. Tomorrow when I get to work I will have to double check my dyno graphs but I believe I made 586 at 9.5psi in 4th gear on a dynojet... Been a while so I need to confirm. That was e85 but it was also really conservative timing versus when I made 671 at 12psi (4th again) using even more timing at the higher boost.

The dyno above doesn't display rpm but based on where the hp and torque meet it appears to have full boost around 2700-2900rpm? Is this using an inertia dynojet 248 or a brake dyno?

BOLIO 671 · 11-06-2015, 05:52 PM

Very Nice.....

Mysilverz · 11-07-2015, 10:08 PM

You have a very impressive build.

11-05-2015, 10:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
ROBERT1183 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: ROCKAWAY NJ Posts: 458 Drives: 2011 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 14	Ive even seen one come out of z1 with a tomei single making over 600whp at same boost level as me. __________________ Aam competition twin turbo 540whp @ 9psi

11-05-2015, 10:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684386	I think some of you are missing a very important point that both bullitt and I made. The number makes since because it was done in 5th gear. Many numbers that a posted are 4th gear runs and I would suspect the number for the car in question would be pretty close to 565 or so in 4th gear at the same boost level. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk GeauxTigers1 likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

11-05-2015, 01:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
GeauxTigers1 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Surprise, Az Posts: 590 Drives: 2017 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 6746	Agreed. So why don't more people run in 5th gear? Shoot, I'll take the higher number if that's what it gives me! LOL Also, if this were the case (just basing off my personal thoughts not anything scientific or pretend that I really know what the hell I'm talking about) with this same set up at 605whp at 9.5psi, why is there no one with e85, running 13lbs and thus hitting well over 700 already? The torque should still be in line with the upper 500s if it's this low at 9.5 lbs right? __________________ Fast Intentions Kit Stage 2 #076 2017 Twin Turbo 370z Nismo. JMS Built Block, Closed Deck 874whp, 803lbs Tq e85 Ecutek Tune

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njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174286	as stated z1 does 5th gear pulls where others i believe do 4th gear pulls __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

11-05-2015, 02:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684386	The one thing about the vq engine, no two are a like. Mine is a torque monster, she won't be dialed back so I can make more horsepower. I'm at 604whp and 550ish on torque. That is burning e85 and before ecutek I was 556whp and 552tq on 100 octane. My tuner had to stop because he couldn't keep the torque down and as bullitt said.... torque kills engines. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

11-05-2015, 04:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684386	Actually it is the opposite...the tuner has more control over timing and vvel parameters with EcuTek than UpRev and that is why the best tuners perfer Ecutek. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk JARblue likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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John@Z1 The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: GA Posts: 1,589 Drives: Turbos Rep Power: 21	Mark's car made 583 in 4th gear and here is the 5th gear pull. I'm also at 86% duty cycle with the 1000cc and no fuel return. Timing is very low on this tune. Also the vehicle was tuned in 4th gear and cleaned up in 5th. The 4th gear run is always smoother and looks the best on a dyno graph.: bullitt5897, BOLIO 671, Presto and 5 others like this. __________________ Z1 Motorsports will beat any advertised price on Nissan OEM Parts! 770-838-7777 ext 311 AIM: JohnatZ1 email: John@Z1motorsports.com

11-05-2015, 05:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684386	Thanks for jumping on and providing clarity for folks. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

11-06-2015, 02:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974725	Sounds fair enough to me. Tomorrow when I get to work I will have to double check my dyno graphs but I believe I made 586 at 9.5psi in 4th gear on a dynojet... Been a while so I need to confirm. That was e85 but it was also really conservative timing versus when I made 671 at 12psi (4th again) using even more timing at the higher boost. The dyno above doesn't display rpm but based on where the hp and torque meet it appears to have full boost around 2700-2900rpm? Is this using an inertia dynojet 248 or a brake dyno? __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 11-06-2015 at 02:58 AM.

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Mysilverz Base Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Birminham Al Posts: 205 Drives: 2013 370z silver M6 Rep Power: 11	You have a very impressive build. GeauxTigers1 likes this. Last edited by Mysilverz; 11-09-2015 at 12:57 AM.