Nissan 370Z Forum  

Recent interactions with GTM/Gamma

I actually do get your point. You have made your position on the matter quite clear. I just don't happen to agree with you I have plenty of responses to

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree382Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-02-2015, 08:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JARblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 44
Posts: 36,450
Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3
Rep Power: 2684441
JARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default



I actually do get your point. You have made your position on the matter quite clear. I just don't happen to agree with you

I have plenty of responses to your post right there, but I'll just leave it at this: I don't have a dog in this fight, so my emotions are in check, I can assure you. I agree with the OP's point about overpriced kits, and I agree with Chuck here. The fact of the matter is that Gamma is tainted by their association with Sam and GTM. That means different things to different customers and potential customers.

This thread should remain open for any forum members to post their experiences in resolving or attempting to resolve any disputes they had with GTM and/or Gamma. You certainly fall into that category, so I respect your right to post about your experiences.
gbrettin, VSS370z and Zbrah like this.
__________________

2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic | ARC | CJM | Ecutek | FI | Fujimura | R2C | SPL | Stillen | TWM | Z1 | ZSpeed |
JARblue is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 09:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 281
Drives: G37x GTM TT
Rep Power: 14
warpeacelove is on a distinguished road
Default

I agree with bullitt5897 wholeheartedly. GammaMotors is getting treated unfairly due to their affiliation with Sam.

Sam is working for them and I know that burns deep in your core. I understand. But think rationally. What about hanging out with your friends and then you'll get pulled over and instead of the friend who committed the crime get apprehended but instead you'll got arrested due to being guilty by association. Is that fair for the friends to get arrested especially if they weren't aware of his action's.

I bought a TT Kit from GammaMotors this Summer fellas and paid them in increments via Paypal and CC. My Kit was delivered last week sometime. Everything arrived, all parts was there, nothing missing.
vividracing and AntiVenom like this.
warpeacelove is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 09:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JARblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 44
Posts: 36,450
Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3
Rep Power: 2684441
JARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond reputeJARblue has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by warpeacelove View Post
GammaMotors is getting treated unfairly due to their affiliation with Sam.

Is that fair for the friends to get arrested especially if they weren't aware of his action's.

I bought a TT Kit from GammaMotors this Summer fellas and paid them in increments via Paypal and CC. My Kit was delivered last week sometime. Everything arrived, all parts was there, nothing missing.
It's perfectly fair. And what makes you think they were unaware? I don't believe that for a second. They hired Sam knowing full well the situation he was in. This action in and of itself speaks volumes as to the type of management that Gamma has. IMO.

Glad they have treated at least one customer fairly
__________________

2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic | ARC | CJM | Ecutek | FI | Fujimura | R2C | SPL | Stillen | TWM | Z1 | ZSpeed |
JARblue is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 09:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
GZ3
A True Z Fanatic
 
GZ3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SATX
Posts: 3,296
Drives: Z
Rep Power: 22
GZ3 is just really niceGZ3 is just really niceGZ3 is just really niceGZ3 is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JARblue View Post
It's perfectly fair. And what makes you think they were unaware? I don't believe that for a second. They hired Sam knowing full well the situation he was in. This action in and of itself speaks volumes as to the type of management that Gamma has. IMO.

Glad they have treated at least one customer fairly
wait let me get this straight....so SAM from GTM went bankrupt and sold the business to GAMMA. And screwed some good people in the process..... Then later GAMMA hires SAM, and now the same kits sold under GTM that were never delivered, are now BY GAMMA asking for the extra money???
__________________
09 GT-R
12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN
12'+13' 5.0 SOLD
GZ3 is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 10:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 281
Drives: G37x GTM TT
Rep Power: 14
warpeacelove is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GZ3 View Post
wait let me get this straight....so SAM from GTM went bankrupt and sold the business to GAMMA. And screwed some good people in the process..... Then later GAMMA hires SAM, and now the same kits sold under GTM that were never delivered, are now BY GAMMA asking for the extra money???
GZ3 Let's be real here. GAMMAMOTORS isn't obligated nor responsible for the misdeed of GTM. There two separate entities.

But if Gamma opted to help out some folks then you have to give them credit but they are also at fault if they are seeking 2200 Extra from the past buyer.

I would let Sam know about that shi* today and that he needs to fix this gentleman's problem.
hjo1078 likes this.
warpeacelove is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 10:08 AM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
FPenvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 38,517
Drives: 15 GT-R BE/09 370Z
Rep Power: 1402086
FPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by warpeacelove View Post

I would let Sam know about that shi* today and that he needs to fix this gentleman's problem
.
........like he did before? when GTM took a long list of people's pre-order money then never answered the phones, emails, etc...



real gentleman.
Zbrah likes this.
__________________
324whp/258wtq AAM Tuned |F.I. NonRes CF CBE/NonRes TestPipes #373|UpRev Tuner|Akuma Motorsports Intakes|Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler
Quote:
Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. View Post
Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony
FPenvy is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 10:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
Ronin Samurai - Assassin
 
Rusty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky
Age: 69
Posts: 35,558
Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M
Rep Power: 2684439
Rusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond reputeRusty has a reputation beyond repute
Question

The new GM is responsible for the old GM troubles with the key switches. Fiat is responsible for warranty work on older Dodges. So why shouldn't Gamma responsible for what they picked up from Sam?
__________________

浪人 - 殺し屋
"The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only"
http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html
Rusty is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 10:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
GZ3
A True Z Fanatic
 
GZ3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SATX
Posts: 3,296
Drives: Z
Rep Power: 22
GZ3 is just really niceGZ3 is just really niceGZ3 is just really niceGZ3 is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by warpeacelove View Post
GZ3 Let's be real here. GAMMAMOTORS isn't obligated nor responsible for the misdeed of GTM. There two separate entities.

But if Gamma opted to help out some folks then you have to give them credit but they are also at fault if they are seeking 2200 Extra from the past buyer.

I would let Sam know about that shi* today and that he needs to fix this gentleman's problem.
Yea you are right, they are not...im not coming down on GAMMA per say...but it SURE LOOKS BAD that they hired back the person from the old business who screwed so many over. It makes it look like a scam...dirty business, surely you can see that Most businesses, when a subordinate, commits an act of in justice, slander, or bad practice, they sever all ties. I don't see subway hiring jared back as just a sandwich maker
__________________
09 GT-R
12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN
12'+13' 5.0 SOLD
GZ3 is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 10:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
FPenvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 38,517
Drives: 15 GT-R BE/09 370Z
Rep Power: 1402086
FPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by warpeacelove View Post
I agree with bullitt5897 wholeheartedly. GammaMotors is getting treated unfairly due to their affiliation with Sam.

Sam is working for them and I know that burns deep in your core. I understand. But think rationally. What about hanging out with your friends and then you'll get pulled over and instead of the friend who committed the crime get apprehended but instead you'll got arrested due to being guilty by association. Is that fair for the friends to get arrested especially if they weren't aware of his action's.

I bought a TT Kit from GammaMotors this Summer fellas and paid them in increments via Paypal and CC. My Kit was delivered last week sometime. Everything arrived, all parts was there, nothing missing.
I guarantee the company who "purchased" them know what Sam has done and what he's about.

sam sucked at running a business so to keep it going he let someone who can run it step in. he's still there, he's still a part of it, kinda hard to move on with the "problem" still as part of the picture.

also you got a TT kit.....why does it say twin SC kit still?

also I thought from what I read on the g37 forum they weren't even taking orders for the TT kit until October 5th? how did you receive one months ago?
elperuano, Zbrah and kentmo280z like this.
__________________
324whp/258wtq AAM Tuned |F.I. NonRes CF CBE/NonRes TestPipes #373|UpRev Tuner|Akuma Motorsports Intakes|Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler
Quote:
Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. View Post
Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony
FPenvy is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 10:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 281
Drives: G37x GTM TT
Rep Power: 14
warpeacelove is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FPenvy View Post
I guarantee the company who "purchased" them know what Sam has done and what he's about.

sam sucked at running a business so to keep it going he let someone who can run it step in. he's still there, he's still a part of it, kinda hard to move on with the "problem" still as part of the picture.

also you got a TT kit.....why does it say twin SC kit still?

also I thought from what I read on the g37 forum they weren't even taking orders for the TT kit until October 5th? how did you receive one months ago?
FPenvy my profile not being updated is irrelevant bro. That is besides the point.

Keep Stirring the Pot. My question to you have you owe a Kit from GTM, were you a group buyer participant and were you impacted financially from these? Yes/No

Because I was, I just don't air mutherfcukers out. I handled my problem differently, Aight!

Lastly stop speaking without much validity, get the facts before you comment. Check my Built Thread on MyG37.com. Research my profile name. This is my 2nd Kit from Them. 1st was Twin SC (That is sold) next up TT Kit AWD G37.
vividracing and AntiVenom like this.
warpeacelove is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 10:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
FPenvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 38,517
Drives: 15 GT-R BE/09 370Z
Rep Power: 1402086
FPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by warpeacelove View Post
FPenvy my profile not being updated is irrelevant bro. That is besides the point.

Keep Stirring the Pot. My question to you have you owe a Kit from GTM, were you a group buyer participant and were you impacted financially from these? Yes/No

Because I was, I just don't air mutherfcukers out. I handled my problem differently, Aight!

Lastly stop speaking without much validity, get the facts before you comment. Check my Built Thread on MyG37.com. Research my profile name. This is my 2nd Kit from Them. 1st was Twin SC (That is sold) next up TT Kit AWD G37.
stirring the pot? I simply stated FACTS of what has happened. sorry that you're super bias and want to discredit known events and examples of what has taken place.

sorry that looking out for other members/people is such a bad thing here when GTM is brought up. go ahead and let fellow community members go get fucked in the ass dealing with them. not everyone enjoys that.....and you've bought from them twice now?

no, I haven't been hurt financially by GTM or bought parts from them.......I did research and stayed away. all I saw were complaints, horrible customer service, bad parts, missing parts then that whole group buy fiasco. yea i'm too smart and care too much about my money to donate to Sam/GTM's pockets.

good day
__________________
324whp/258wtq AAM Tuned |F.I. NonRes CF CBE/NonRes TestPipes #373|UpRev Tuner|Akuma Motorsports Intakes|Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler
Quote:
Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. View Post
Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony
FPenvy is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 10:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have no plans to go FI with any of my cars but if I did, I would not deal with GTM/Gamma. If Gamma is dumb enough to keep Sam on the payroll, be their public voice, have his name on the legal paperwork, &c, I don't expect them to remain solvent for very long. It just doesn't pass the sniff test. YMMV
JARblue, elperuano, Zbrah and 1 others like this.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 11:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Southwest FL
Posts: 1,374
Drives: G37S
Rep Power: 29
elperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Warpeacelove, Black betty said it best. Just stop you look absolutely ridiculous.

Bullitt - few months ago(possibly years now can't keep track of dates that well anymore it's been so damn long) you were adamant that Sam n GTM were slowly making things right and on track to release the turbo kit to those on the lists. Slowly but surely you said they would come. Is this what you meant by Sam making things write slowly and to stop putting him down and fueling the fire with negative comments? Sam has only declared bankruptcy and changed the name to Gamma. That is all Sam has done SINCE YOU said he was gonna make it right. When is enough, enough?

Why is anyone bashing the negative comments towards gtm from dissatisfied customers (not even customers they were literally just robbed of their money with no intention of a kit ever being delivered to them)? If they choose to go online and vent and share their experience then by all means they have every right to do so. It's not SILLY at all. It's very helpful and could steer potential VICTIMS away from the scheme.

Sam is a thief and a liar. That means bad for business. The company that chooses to go to business with a person of that character is no better. They have the same objective as Sam.

The real question should be why are people (albeit very few) helping this pathetic company and man build up his business again after robbing this community of thousands of dollars? Are they getting kickbaks from this or something? They would have to be an absolute phucking moron to believe the dumb chit or they are somehow involved in the scheme. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me..... fool me going on almost 2 years later with the same bs? Sit the phuck down. They have been banned from myg37 and the370. To whoever this shoe fits, lace them up.
JARblue, Infidel and Zbrah like this.
elperuano is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 01:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
The370Z.com Sponsor
 
vividracing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Age: 39
Posts: 7,306
Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR
Rep Power: 40
vividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond reputevividracing has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to vividracing
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by elperuano View Post
Why is anyone bashing the negative comments towards gtm from dissatisfied customers (not even customers they were literally just robbed of their money with no intention of a kit ever being delivered to them)? If they choose to go online and vent and share their experience then by all means they have every right to do so. It's not SILLY at all. It's very helpful and could steer potential VICTIMS away from the scheme.
What I was addressing as silly is the threats, the wishes for someone to get hurt or to try and personally ruin someone's life. We are adults here and should act that way.

Quote:
Originally Posted by elperuano View Post
Sam is a thief and a liar. That means bad for business. The company that chooses to go to business with a person of that character is no better. They have the same objective as Sam.

The real question should be why are people (albeit very few) helping this pathetic company and man build up his business again after robbing this community of thousands of dollars? Are they getting kickbaks from this or something? They would have to be an absolute phucking moron to believe the dumb chit or they are somehow involved in the scheme.
So now you are calling myself, birdman and bullitt (to name a few) liars and thieves and are somehow affiliated with Sam's poor business practices? Did I read that correctly?
__________________

Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com
Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!
vividracing is offline  
Old 10-02-2015, 01:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Trips's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Disneyland, Ca
Posts: 8,734
Drives: 🔰
Rep Power: 10
Trips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond reputeTrips has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vividracing View Post
[I]What I was addressing as silly is the threats, the wishes for someone to get hurt or to try and personally ruin someone's life. We are adults here and should act that way.
I totally agree here and would appreciate it IF we could continue without that type of language as it doesn't help any, But understandable under the circumstances.

I don't want to intervene here as YOU all know my feelings about the total screwed up situation.

I would like this to continue peacefully or unless AK just decides to close it.
__________________


http://www.the370z.com/payments.php
Trips is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
To all members: GTM = Gamma Motors cdoxp800 Forced Induction 83 08-09-2015 12:15 PM
Any recent financings? scottIN Nissan 370Z Pricing / Ordering Discussions 14 01-05-2012 05:23 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2