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TBatt 01-21-2016 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3393609)

Air Force ???

Yep, Minuteman. Funny thing is that I'm still working with those missiles. They are used as targets for MDA.

We had a great car club there that is still going strong.

Z&I 01-21-2016 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3393851)
I think it would gain peak TQ and HP would be the same. Im talking maxing RPM's from 7500 to maybe 6800.

When the TQ takes it's nose dive away from the HP curve then it's time to shift or you're just spinning the motor with a diminishing rate of acceleration.
Although with my upgraded Stillen set up I did have improved TQ that stayed to about 6200 which would have theoretically been my optimum shift point.
Didn't get the chance to really test it out though before the motor blew.
Just from 'feeling' the motor that 6200 RPM number was about right.
Ran the motor to 7200 in first and noticed that the rate of acceleration fell off noticeably at 6500.

Z&I 01-21-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3393870)
Yep, Minuteman. Funny thing is that I'm still working with those missiles. They are used as targets for MDA.

We had a great car club there that is still going strong.

The Minuteman's have been around a really long time ... '50's ish
Tech School back in the day for them was a year long course at Chanute ...
Dreaded the thought of getting orders for Minot or Thule.
Luckily I was assigned to TAC [England AFB (Alexandria) Louisiana and then on to Nakhon Phanom Thailand.

Both 'warm weather' assignments...though I did spend the winter at Chanute.
Won't ever forget marching the cold and blustery flightline to school every morning bundled up with jacket, jacket liner, gloves, glove liners, X'tra socks and Thermals ... oh - and the Freddy Kruger Face Mask that kept freezing up from my breath and would stick to my lips and eyes.

All 3 of these bases no longer exist

TBatt 01-22-2016 08:03 AM

BTW a Minuteman travels at +15,000 mph. Now that is FAST!
I remember those days at Chanute. I was there for about 9 months total.

Glad to know that you are a fellow USAF vet.

Z&I 01-22-2016 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3394531)
BTW a Minuteman travels at +15,000 mph. Now that is FAST!
I remember those days at Chanute. I was there for about 9 months total.

Glad to know that you are a fellow USAF vet.

60' Time for the Minuteman ???

I was at Chanute Dec 65 thru April 66 ... 54th Sturon [about a block behind the chow hall]
Ended up pulling school KP Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve and New Years Day.
Worked the Clipper and the Coat Room ... [that coat room was KOLD]
I was an Aircraft Electrician.

Thanks for your service !

StillenZ84 01-22-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3394531)
BTW a Minuteman travels at +15,000 mph. Now that is FAST!
I remember those days at Chanute. I was there for about 9 months total.

Glad to know that you are a fellow USAF vet.

+1 Good ole SF here lol

TBatt 01-22-2016 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3394650)
60' Time for the Minuteman ???

I was at Chanute Dec 65 thru April 66 ... 54th Sturon [about a block behind the chow hall]
Ended up pulling school KP Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve and New Years Day.
Worked the Clipper and the Coat Room ... [that coat room was KOLD]
I was an Aircraft Electrician.

Thanks for your service !

And thank you too!

ANMVQ 01-22-2016 11:09 AM

Thanx to both of you for your service!!

JWillis72 01-22-2016 02:19 PM

Agreed, thank you both for your service!


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JWillis72 01-22-2016 02:24 PM

Stillen Air to Air setup
 
Just spoke to Pat and he said everything in the trans and converter is 100%. He said there are springs in the converter than sometimes make some noise and just to make sure that wasn't it he is building a new converter for it this afternoon/ Monday morning and will ship it back on Monday. He seemed very sure the trans is perfect so now all I can think is " what the hell could that sound have been?", I have no clue so we will have to wait and see.




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TopgunZ 01-22-2016 02:29 PM

This noise came from what sounded like underneath the car? Have you inspected the flywheel/clutch set?

Jayhovah 01-22-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3394979)
Just spoke to Pat and he said everything in the trans and converter is 100%. He said there are springs in the converter than sometimes make some noise and just to make sure that wasn't it he is building a new converter for it this afternoon/ Monday morning and will ship it back on Monday. He seemed very sure the trans is perfect so now all I can think is " what the hell could that sound have been?", I have no clue so we will have to wait and see.

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So many of your posts to this thread fall in a grey area between good news and bad news. I don't know if I am supposed to be happy or upset for you =)

JWillis72 01-22-2016 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3394986)
This noise came from what sounded like underneath the car? Have you inspected the flywheel/clutch set?


There is a car on the lift right now but we will inspect it again before the trans goes back in. I will check but don't think that is it, the sound didn't follow the engine rpm and flex plate is bolted the the engine so I would expect any sound from it should follow rpm.


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wideglideleon 01-22-2016 03:01 PM

Sending good Karma your way.
If its true that what doesn't kill makes one stronger you'll be SUPERMAN by the end of this.

JWillis72 01-22-2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wideglideleon (Post 3395000)
Sending good Karma your way.

If its true that what doesn't kill makes one stronger you'll be SUPERMAN by the end of this.


Or dead! Thanks for good karma!


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JWillis72 01-26-2016 12:24 PM

The trans was snowed in yesterday but they are shipping it out today, we should be able to restart this nightmare soon.

jwick 01-26-2016 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3398068)
The trans was snowed in yesterday but they are shipping it out today, we should be able to restart this nightmare soon.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to 'like' these posts anymore?:wtf2:

JWillis72 01-26-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3398097)
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to 'like' these posts anymore?:wtf2:


Me either, I'm excited to have it back but it's been a lot less stressful not being able to be disappointed every day!


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StillenZ84 01-26-2016 01:18 PM

When you have your car back driving around the track, pushing 500+, it will have all been worth it.

JWillis72 01-26-2016 01:45 PM

I miss the track so much, this was a stupid thing to do. I did this to have fun on the track but its just kept me from going to the track. the last time I was on the track was June, I so need this nightmare to end! My friends will be at Homestead Saturday and I will be at home pissed off once again.

TopgunZ 01-26-2016 02:13 PM

It wasn't a stupid thing to do. It just didn't go as planned. Well, it went about as far from "as planned" as possible so I hear your pain.

Had all this gone the other way you would be singing a completely different song though. I really hope you will soon be telling us how awesome your car feels on the track with all of its new found power and glory!!

TopgunZ 01-26-2016 02:15 PM

June is a long time, but just remember us guys stuck here in winter where our cars are perfectly fine but we still cant drive them. And that happens for months of every single year. Its torture walking by it in the garage every day and unable to get in and drive.

JWillis72 01-26-2016 02:27 PM

That whole concept sucks! I can't imaging dealing with that every year.


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JWillis72 01-26-2016 02:29 PM

I'm such a Floridian that it took me a moment to process that he couldn't ship my trans because they were snowed in.


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jwick 01-26-2016 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3398206)
I'm such a Floridian that it took me a moment to process that he couldn't ship my trans because they were snowed in.


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jwick 01-26-2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3398155)
I miss the track so much, this was a stupid thing to do. I did this to have fun on the track but its just kept me from going to the track. the last time I was on the track was June, I so need this nightmare to end! My friends will be at Homestead Saturday and I will be at home pissed off once drunk again.

Fixed it:tup:

JWillis72 01-26-2016 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3398247)
Fixed it:tup:


Well yes, that too! I should have bought stock in Captain Morgan before I started this project, I feel like the people at the store are starting to judge me.


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JWillis72 01-26-2016 03:58 PM

I just called the owner of 928 Motorsports just to ask if there could be anything wrong inside the supercharger that could be causing my boost problems. He believes it is the belt slipping. Anytime I have ever seen a belt slipping I have always seen belt dust but he said thats not always the case with belts these days. He gave me a few new ideas to test, fingers crossed!

jwick 01-26-2016 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3398248)
Well yes, that too! I should have bought stock in Captain Morgan before I started this project, I feel like the people at the store are starting to judge me.


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**** 'em. I buy my bourbon by the case. I did the math and I end up getting a bottle to a bottle and a half free. Not like whiskey ever goes bad.

TopgunZ 01-26-2016 04:18 PM

Put on your cog setup. That will eliminate any chance it is slip.

JWillis72 01-26-2016 04:31 PM

His suggestion was simply to touch it after a pull, if it burns your finger it's slipping. I think I will use a temperature gun instead of burning my fingers. He also said to do one pull then spray it with belt dressing ( only as a test not a fix) and see if the psi goes up.


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EVOHUNTER 01-27-2016 11:56 AM

get me a video of your belt, grab it and twist it for me.

It needs to be really tight. like really tight lol

JWillis72 01-27-2016 12:00 PM

Will do, I will try to do it tomorrow. I will be in meetings all afternoon so I can't get up there today.

TBatt 01-27-2016 03:30 PM

Ah, SC porn. I get it.

Go back and read the last two post, read them like you don't know what the subject is.

JWillis72 01-27-2016 06:13 PM

Did either of you guys with the A2A set up run out of room on the tensioner adjustment screw?


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TopgunZ 01-27-2016 06:18 PM

Not me. Evo made his slot longer. I think I have a larger idler pulley so you can do that, or put a bigger jackshaft pulley on.

StillenZ84 01-27-2016 06:35 PM

Much easier to just go bigger idler pulley.

JWillis72 01-27-2016 06:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1WSJbcLpk

The guys at the shop shot a video for me.

StillenZ84 01-27-2016 07:07 PM

Yeah mine with the 3 " idler still has around 1/2" more it can be tightened and doesn't quite move that much.

JWillis72 01-27-2016 07:18 PM

Lol, I couldn't remember why I ordered this but I bet that's why!

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