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Elmo370z 01-12-2016 10:07 PM

Tuning and building the car. I want ecu tek next year for my top end build.

TopgunZ 01-12-2016 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3387022)
It's probably good for tomorrow!


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Wait...to dyno the car? All my wine coolers are gone so I'm confused. :yawn:

JWillis72 01-13-2016 10:24 AM

NUR Performance has the dyno but it's being tuned remotely.


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JWillis72 01-13-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3387099)
Wait...to dyno the car? All my wine coolers are gone so I'm confused. :yawn:


Sorry, not the dyno. Being out of captain was good for today. Had I had more my head would have been pounding more this morning.


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StillenZ84 01-19-2016 04:37 PM

Any update on the tranny?

JWillis72 01-19-2016 05:21 PM

Stillen Air to Air setup
 
Talked to Pat a couple hours ago, he said the trans looks great In side. After we talked about the sound he wanted to do a little more testing and take apart the torque converter tomorrow.


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TBatt 01-20-2016 08:23 AM

:drama:

Hang in there! This needs a happy ending!

TopgunZ 01-20-2016 09:35 AM

Jwillis will shred tires soon enough.

On a different note. I purchased a cog setup. Good for more power. Also, looking into the V1 Ti trim vortech. That sucker has HD bearings, flows 1400cfm and is good for 26psi. I might pull that trigger this spring/summer.

For now I have contacted a tune shop here. I am going to retune for altitude when it warms up. The guy that I bought the kit off hit 11.9psi with what was supplied to me. I since then have put on a 0.20 smaller pulley on the sc. Which should get me to 13psi. The cog setup I have should be good for 14 to 15psi.

I also picked up some Toyo R888's at 315/30/20. Come on spring!!!

JWillis72 01-20-2016 11:38 AM

When is spring there, June? I'm looking forward to seeing what the elevation change does for your power.

TopgunZ 01-20-2016 12:26 PM

The snow turns to rain in April. So around late April or May I would think Ill be able to take the car back out on the streets. So really about 3 months. ****..and its 50* in Denver!

JWillis72 01-20-2016 12:30 PM

It was 41 when I came to work, that Fn cold for us!


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StillenZ84 01-20-2016 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3392727)
When is spring there, June? I'm looking forward to seeing what the elevation change does for your power.

I agree and I think the elevation change is going to do wonders to the power. I think Top will be pushing damn near 600 at 15 psi! That is going to be amazing!

TBatt 01-20-2016 12:30 PM

Denver has four seasons just like any place else. They just call them by different names such as June, July, August and winter........

My daughter lives there. I'm not sure how she puts up with all of the snow. Beautiful area but too cold for me. I spent three years in Minot North Dakota. That was the longest three years of my life!

jwick 01-20-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3392766)
Denver has four seasons just like any place else. They just call them by different names such as June, July, August and winter........

My daughter lives there. I'm not sure how she puts up with all of the snow. Beautiful area but too cold for me. I spent three years in Minot North Dakota. That was the longest three years of my life!

We have two seasons here. HOT and fall:tup:

TopgunZ 01-20-2016 12:49 PM

Disagree on the Denver and snow take. I drove my car all year round. Never drove it on ice or snow and I have a truck for that. Maybe drove my truck to work 20 times all winter.

Its a very common misconception about Denver. Everyone thinks its all snowy there. Guys I work with here all think Denver is a snow paradise and is in the "Mountains". Yes, it snows, but 2 or 3 days later its back up to 50* and everything melts. Unless this winter has been different, but I was there for 6 of them.

Yes the "mountains" get snow and it stays all year. But down in the flat prairie where Denver is actually located it is brown way more often than white.

I went wake boarding in February there! In a wet suit of course, but still.....

TopgunZ 01-20-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84 (Post 3392765)
I agree and I think the elevation change is going to do wonders to the power. I think Top will be pushing damn near 600 at 15 psi! That is going to be amazing!

I was thinking that but didn't want to throw out such a huge number. I am just glad I moved somewhere that also has E85. And more than ever! Its at almost every gas station here.

I am a bit worried about the manifold. It wasn't designed to hold anywhere close to 15psi. However, maybe it is a better flowing design than the original? Or maybe it will be a choking point? Only time will tell.

Unless someone has some insight on this for us.

JWillis72 01-20-2016 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3392779)
We have two seasons here. HOT and fall:tup:

We have two here also, hot and rainy and snowbird season.

jwick 01-20-2016 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3392841)
We have two here also, hot and rainy and snowbird season.

We have bird season too and it happens to be right now. For some reason they love to congregate at the local Kroger. Every time you go to the store you have to do a double check for bird ****. Last week I came out and there was at least 15-20 droppings. :shakes head:

JWillis72 01-20-2016 01:43 PM

Lol, snow bird are what we call all the old people that come for winter.


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Spooler 01-20-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3392852)
We have bird season too and it happens to be right now. For some reason they love to congregate at the local Kroger. Every time you go to the store you have to do a double check for bird ****. Last week I came out and there was at least 15-20 droppings. :shakes head:

LOL,,,,, TOO FUNNY...... that's not what he meant though..

jwick 01-20-2016 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3392876)
LOL,,,,, TOO FUNNY...... that's not what he meant though..

:bowrofl:

StillenZ84 01-20-2016 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3392806)
I was thinking that but didn't want to throw out such a huge number. I am just glad I moved somewhere that also has E85. And more than ever! Its at almost every gas station here.

I am a bit worried about the manifold. It wasn't designed to hold anywhere close to 15psi. However, maybe it is a better flowing design than the original? Or maybe it will be a choking point? Only time will tell.

Unless someone has some insight on this for us.

Yeah e85 is starting to pop up more and more here too. The manifold seems to be really well built but yeah don't know if you would ever get a straight answer out of Stillen on how much pressure it could actually handle. It seems they stay quiet about most things and word is they are developing an ata setup as we speak. I cant see them changing the manifold too much.

TopgunZ 01-20-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84 (Post 3392939)
Yeah e85 is starting to pop up more and more here too. The manifold seems to be really well built but yeah don't know if you would ever get a straight answer out of Stillen on how much pressure it could actually handle. It seems they stay quiet about most things and word is they are developing an ata setup as we speak. I cant see them changing the manifold too much.

Really? Do you know if it will be sold as a kit or if you can buy it as an addition to existing customers kits? They must frequent this forum often. At least they are taking the voice of the customer into consideration.

StillenZ84 01-20-2016 03:47 PM

Well I saw someone on Facebook talking about this thread and a Stillen rep commented and said that they are currently working on an ata setup and they would be releasing it first of the year sometime. He did say it would be an add on for those that already had the supercharger and also sold as a whole kit. I messaged him for info and he said he isn't aloud to talk about it at all but that it was coming soon.

TopgunZ 01-20-2016 03:50 PM

Very interesting. Gamma said they are coming to the market with a twin screw by summer too.

jwick 01-20-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3392993)
Very interesting. Gamma said they are coming to the market with a twin screw by summer too.

Yeah but Gamma has little to no technical ability so I'd question a new design from them. Rebadge (insert banned company name here) is one thing, a completely new design is another entirely.

TBatt 01-21-2016 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ84 (Post 3392991)
Well I saw someone on Facebook talking about this thread and a Stillen rep commented and said that they are currently working on an ata setup and they would be releasing it first of the year sometime. He did say it would be an add on for those that already had the supercharger and also sold as a whole kit. I messaged him for info and he said he isn't aloud to talk about it at all but that it was coming soon.

I'm planning on going with the Stillen SC this spring/summer. With luck, maybe they will have the ata setup ready by then. If this works out I will gladly do a review of the new kit.

TopgunZ 01-21-2016 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3393031)
Yeah but Gamma has little to no technical ability so I'd question a new design from them. Rebadge (insert banned company name here) is one thing, a completely new design is another entirely.

You don't think they contracted Sam out? I do. I think it was a "we need to tell everyone Sam no longer works here to save face". So they "fired" him and probably have in as contract or still on payroll but working remotely.

Im a little worried about even posting the above and opening a rotten can of worms.

Jayhovah 01-21-2016 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3393533)
You don't think they contracted Sam out? I do. I think it was a "we need to tell everyone Sam no longer works here to save face". So they "fired" him and probably have in as contract or still on payroll but working remotely.

Im a little worried about even posting the above and opening a rotten can of worms.

Sam is kind of becoming the HeWhoShouldNotBeNamed of this forum.. but wouldn't the above scenario actually be kind of ideal? Sam contracted to do the technical work, Gamma guys handling the business part?

I'm not trying to stir things up either, just thinking out loud =)

In my thread there was also talk about the Gamma guys not being very technical, but during my install they did set me up with one of their kit builders for support and it wasn't Sam.. the guy's name was Jason Rubio. He knew the kit backwards and forwards.

Anyhow - don't want to derail the thread.. just thought I would chime in since I have some experience with Gamma and there isn't a ton of folks that do at the moment.

TopgunZ 01-21-2016 09:17 AM

Well next time your there you should ask about a PD blower. :tiphat:

TopgunZ 01-21-2016 09:37 AM

OK. Who thinks it would be better to make more psi earlier and throughout the rpm band with a lower rev limit VS. making boost later and having it lower throughout the band but have a higher rev limit?

Z&I 01-21-2016 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt (Post 3392766)
Denver has four seasons just like any place else. They just call them by different names such as June, July, August and winter........

My daughter lives there. I'm not sure how she puts up with all of the snow. Beautiful area but too cold for me. I spent three years in Minot North Dakota. That was the longest three years of my life!



Air Force ???

Z&I 01-21-2016 09:44 AM

AAM Competition Intake Manifold
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3392806)
I was thinking that but didn't want to throw out such a huge number. I am just glad I moved somewhere that also has E85. And more than ever! Its at almost every gas station here.

I am a bit worried about the manifold. It wasn't designed to hold anywhere close to 15psi. However, maybe it is a better flowing design than the original? Or maybe it will be a choking point? Only time will tell.

Unless someone has some insight on this for us.

AAM Competition just introduced their new manifold ... it is awesome!
Check out their site to pre-order.
It is expected to be available for shipping in March ...

...::drool::...I'm already signed up !!!

[oops] forgot that we are talking Stillen set up

Chuck33079 01-21-2016 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3393533)
You don't think they contracted Sam out? I do. I think it was a "we need to tell everyone Sam no longer works here to save face". So they "fired" him and probably have in as contract or still on payroll but working remotely.

Im a little worried about even posting the above and opening a rotten can of worms.

I'd bet my left nut you're 1000% right on this one.

Z&I 01-21-2016 09:50 AM

[QUOTE=JWillis72;3392855 "Bird Droppings" Lol, snow bird are what we call all the old people that come for winter. [/QUOTE]

Old people can leave droppings too ... :-)

TopgunZ 01-21-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3393608)
OK. Who thinks it would be better to make more psi earlier and throughout the rpm band with a lower rev limit VS. making boost later and having it lower throughout the band but have a higher rev limit?

Anyone?

jwick 01-21-2016 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3393608)
OK. Who thinks it would be better to make more psi earlier and throughout the rpm band with a lower rev limit VS. making boost later and having it lower throughout the band but have a higher rev limit?

HP/TQ peaks the same?

Z&I 01-21-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3393608)
OK. Who thinks it would be better to make more psi earlier and throughout the rpm band with a lower rev limit VS. making boost later and having it lower throughout the band but have a higher rev limit?

Got the Traction Problem solved ??? if so then build HP/TQ faster and shift sooner.

TopgunZ 01-21-2016 01:05 PM

I think it would gain peak TQ and HP would be the same. Im talking maxing RPM's from 7500 to maybe 6800.

jwick 01-21-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Z&I (Post 3393850)
Got the Traction Problem solved ??? if so then build HP/TQ faster and shift sooner.

:iagree:

If you can hook it then the earlier the power the better.


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