Lets see your aftermarket seats!

synolimit · 01-09-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dsouth

Not trying to start a debate or anything, but wouldn't replacing the seats compromise safety? I want to put some buckets in my z, but eliminating the airbag in the seat makes me nervous. Also, from my understanding, putting 5 point harnesses in a street car is also dangerous (if your roll and don't have a roll cage). So is it better to run 3 point harnesses with bucket seats? So I guess my question is... Do buckets really make the car more dangerous? I want to get buckets, but I'm on the fence.

Well cars for years have gotten 5 star crash ratings without seat air bags. And since a bucket seat holds you in and protects your hips etc, I'd say its way safer than a standard seat where you can flop around and slide left and right into that seat airbag! As for a 5 point, again that's safer because it holds you in. Not sure what a roll cage has to do with anything. If you roll a 3 point doesn't hold your nuts in. Roll cage or not, in a roll I don't want my head hitting the ceiling.

sig11 · 01-09-2014, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

As for a 5 point, again that's safer because it holds you in. Not sure what a roll cage has to do with anything. If you roll a 3 point doesn't hold your nuts in. Roll cage or not, in a roll I don't want my head hitting the ceiling.

The argument on most forums against 5+pt belts with harness bars in a rollover is that it does hold you in place and the roof will collapse. The reason why 3pt is ok is that your body will roll down as the roof collapses.

synolimit · 01-09-2014, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sig11

The argument on most forums against 5+pt belts with harness bars in a rollover is that it does hold you in place and the roof will collapse. The reason why 3pt is ok is that your body will roll down as the roof collapses.

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Originally Posted by wstar

^ What he said. In a stock safety setup, if you roll over and the roof caves in, the system is designed to let your body fall out of the way (towards the inside). When you're strapped into a harness system, you're stuck straight up. That can turn a bad rollover accident into a fatal one, as the harnesses hold your spine in place for the roof to cave in and crush it. You really should run a roll cage (even just a 4-point) with any real harness system. Harness-bar setups are dangerous in a roll.

Hmm. Interesting. But a fixed bucket seat seams like more of the issue vs the 5pt. I can see that happening I guess with a 5pt and a OEM seat, but once you add the bucket seat its a moot point with the belt. Who knows though.

aren't there some GT3's and such cars with a race set up from the factory? Do they have cages? I can't see them using a cage if the driver doesn't wear a helmet 24/7. FYI jeep wranglers have a "roll cage" or enough to bash your brains in. The 2" padding wouldn't do much with no helmet.

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