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Originally Posted by synolimit As for a 5 point, again that's safer because it holds you in. Not sure what a roll cage has to do with anything. If you

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As for a 5 point, again that's safer because it holds you in. Not sure what a roll cage has to do with anything. If you roll a 3 point doesn't hold your nuts in. Roll cage or not, in a roll I don't want my head hitting the ceiling.
The argument on most forums against 5+pt belts with harness bars in a rollover is that it does hold you in place and the roof will collapse. The reason why 3pt is ok is that your body will roll down as the roof collapses.
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The argument on most forums against 5+pt belts with harness bars in a rollover is that it does hold you in place and the roof will collapse. The reason why 3pt is ok is that your body will roll down as the roof collapses.
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^ What he said. In a stock safety setup, if you roll over and the roof caves in, the system is designed to let your body fall out of the way (towards the inside). When you're strapped into a harness system, you're stuck straight up. That can turn a bad rollover accident into a fatal one, as the harnesses hold your spine in place for the roof to cave in and crush it. You really should run a roll cage (even just a 4-point) with any real harness system. Harness-bar setups are dangerous in a roll.

Hmm. Interesting. But a fixed bucket seat seams like more of the issue vs the 5pt. I can see that happening I guess with a 5pt and a OEM seat, but once you add the bucket seat its a moot point with the belt. Who knows though.

aren't there some GT3's and such cars with a race set up from the factory? Do they have cages? I can't see them using a cage if the driver doesn't wear a helmet 24/7. FYI jeep wranglers have a "roll cage" or enough to bash your brains in. The 2" padding wouldn't do much with no helmet.
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