Harness Bar Installed. :)

RyanWest · 08-18-2017, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nandosman

I see from the picture you removed your oem seat belts. I'm wondering, when you removed the retractors, what did you do with the sensor cable? Are you getting an airbag warning without the retractors?

I tucked everything behind the plastic panels. Not sure what lights are on yet but Ill focus on that later.

TechnicZ · 08-18-2017, 08:26 PM

Are you completely confident that mounting to the stock hollow cross brace is going to hold you in your seat safely? The seat belt mounting holes are meant to restrain you but that rear cross brace was engineered to match its name.

At most I trust the MA Motorsports harness bar for a street application since they actually mount frame/body bolt. I don't like to risk safety.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo...r/26305/page1/

Good luck!

Rusty · 08-18-2017, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TechnicZ

Are you completely confident that mounting to the stock hollow cross brace is going to hold you in your seat safely? The seat belt mounting holes are meant to restrain you but that rear cross brace was engineered to match its name.

At most I trust the MA Motorsports harness bar for a street application since they actually mount frame/body bolt. I don't like to risk safety.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo...r/26305/page1/

Good luck!

That stock cross bar WILL NOT hold you!

It's just thin sheet aluminum tube that will crumple with about 15 lbs of force. I have one sitting in my attic. I replaced with with a Robbyspec bar.

NorthStyle · 08-19-2017, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TechnicZ

Are you completely confident that mounting to the stock hollow cross brace is going to hold you in your seat safely? The seat belt mounting holes are meant to restrain you but that rear cross brace was engineered to match its name.

At most I trust the MA Motorsports harness bar for a street application since they actually mount frame/body bolt. I don't like to risk safety.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo...r/26305/page1/

Good luck!

Who are you referring to? There is no mention of anyone mounting anything to the stock cross brace in this thread..

2011 Nismo#91 · 08-19-2017, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

That stock cross bar WILL NOT hold you!

It's just thin sheet aluminum tube that will crumple with about 15 lbs of force. I have one sitting in my attic. I replaced with with a Robbyspec bar.

Rusty, he's just hooking a harness bar the the points where the upper seatbelt mounts are. It's a pretty reasonable setup in that respect, the bar is pretty sturdy looking. For me I wouldn't use any harness with out a helmet and hans, to high of a risk of you snapping your spine and becoming paralyzed or dead since there is no give with a harness like there is with a OEM seat belt. But each to his own.

RyanWest · 08-19-2017, 04:52 PM

Guys this Harness bar does attach to the stock cross bar. It uses a L bracket. This thing is seriously connected and firm! I will be using Braum Harness Straps. Ill post more pics when the seats are in.

Rusty · 08-20-2017, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Rusty, he's just hooking a harness bar the the points where the upper seatbelt mounts are. It's a pretty reasonable setup in that respect, the bar is pretty sturdy looking. For me I wouldn't use any harness with out a helmet and hans, to high of a risk of you snapping your spine and becoming paralyzed or dead since there is no give with a harness like there is with a OEM seat belt. But each to his own.

I just put a warning out.

Having replaced that aluminum piece of bling with a different bar. I know how it's made, and how it's mounted. I just don't want anyone to trust their life with it.

RyanWest · 08-20-2017, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I just put a warning out.

Having replaced that aluminum piece of bling with a different bar. I know how it's made, and how it's mounted. I just don't want anyone to trust their life with it.

I don't think you understand how the L bracket connects to the stock harness bar.

nandosman · 08-20-2017, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanWest

I don't think you understand how the L bracket connects to the stock harness bar.

This

2011 Nismo#91 · 08-21-2017, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I just put a warning out.

Having replaced that aluminum piece of bling with a different bar. I know how it's made, and how it's mounted. I just don't want anyone to trust their life with it.

I totally understand, most people don't grasp that even in a 30mph accident with a stationary object your body experiences tons of force even with all the modern enhancements. The sheet metal in non structural elements will bend and tear like paper when subjected to hundreds of pounds of force.

Rusty · 08-21-2017, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanWest

Guys this Harness bar does attach to the stock cross bar. It uses a L bracket. This thing is seriously connected and firm! I will be using Braum Harness Straps. Ill post more pics when the seats are in.

You have pictures on how it's mounted.

RyanWest · 08-21-2017, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I just put a warning out.

Having replaced that aluminum piece of bling with a different bar. I know how it's made, and how it's mounted. I just don't want anyone to trust their life with it.

You do realize there is a long drop screw. It does not bolt to the top of the metal I think you are referring to.

Also the top metal piece is not thin IMO.

RyanWest · 08-21-2017, 05:19 PM

Trying to attach pictures but wont allow me.

RyanWest · 08-21-2017, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

I totally understand, most people don't grasp that even in a 30mph accident with a stationary object your body experiences tons of force even with all the modern enhancements. The sheet metal in non structural elements will bend and tear like paper when subjected to hundreds of pounds of force.

There are 4 points that secure the harness bar into place.

NorthStyle · 08-21-2017, 11:30 PM

Here are the two best pictures I could find of how the Cipher bar is mounted...

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08-18-2017, 08:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
TechnicZ Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 106 Drives: 2009 370z Base Sport Rep Power: 15	Are you completely confident that mounting to the stock hollow cross brace is going to hold you in your seat safely? The seat belt mounting holes are meant to restrain you but that rear cross brace was engineered to match its name. At most I trust the MA Motorsports harness bar for a street application since they actually mount frame/body bolt. I don't like to risk safety. https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo...r/26305/page1/ Good luck!

08-19-2017, 04:52 PM	#21 (permalink)
RyanWest Track Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tamp, Fl Posts: 714 Drives: 2009 Nissan Rep Power: 33	Guys this Harness bar does attach to the stock cross bar. It uses a L bracket. This thing is seriously connected and firm! I will be using Braum Harness Straps. Ill post more pics when the seats are in.

08-21-2017, 05:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
RyanWest Track Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tamp, Fl Posts: 714 Drives: 2009 Nissan Rep Power: 33	Trying to attach pictures but wont allow me.