Nissan 370Z Forum  

Oil question

So... it happened my shop made a boo-boo and used 5w40 instead of 5w30... didn't even realize until I got home. So... What happens if you use 5w40? Will some

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain


Like Tree13Likes
  • 2 Post By LostSol
  • 2 Post By Wonka2581
  • 5 Post By FPenvy
  • 1 Post By bvl
  • 1 Post By SouthArk370Z
  • 2 Post By MJB

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-17-2014, 11:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
mishuko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: bouncin on tigga
Posts: 8,062
Drives: '12 Z
Rep Power: 9434
mishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond repute
Default Oil question

So... it happened my shop made a boo-boo and used 5w40 instead of 5w30... didn't even realize until I got home. So... What happens if you use 5w40? Will some of the more intricate parts lose lube?

I'm not trying to cheap my way out I was just trying to find some info as I tried searching to no luck.

Any oil guru's provide insight?


ps once spring comes i'm getting the filter and oil changed to 5w30
mishuko is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 11:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
LostSol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,021
Drives: 2010 370z 40th A.E.
Rep Power: 15
LostSol is a splendid one to beholdLostSol is a splendid one to beholdLostSol is a splendid one to beholdLostSol is a splendid one to beholdLostSol is a splendid one to beholdLostSol is a splendid one to beholdLostSol is a splendid one to beholdLostSol is a splendid one to behold
Default

youll be fine.
Trips and mishuko like this.
__________________
2010 Nissan 370Z 40th Anniversary Edition #762/1000
| Forgestar | Michelin | Swift | TRS | Z Speed | ARK | Z1 | Hawk | CFE | Evo-R | GTMat | Stillen | Seibon | Whiteline | Pioneer |
LostSol is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 11:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
mishuko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: bouncin on tigga
Posts: 8,062
Drives: '12 Z
Rep Power: 9434
mishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LostSol View Post
youll be fine.
Thanks for the peace of mind! lol...

Well it's also just been an open book now... I read that the 350 HR's liked the 5w40 over 30 and curious to see if that holds true for the VHR block.

I just want to learn more about cars so please excuse my lack of knowledge in this aspect... I just want to learn more
mishuko is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 11:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Wonka2581's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 3,083
Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY....
Rep Power: 2611
Wonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond reputeWonka2581 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Call Z1 and get you some RedLine Oil... Thats what I use and I have had no problems...
FLUJOKE and mishuko like this.
__________________
"I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat""Winston Churchill"
Wonka2581 is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 12:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
FPenvy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 38,517
Drives: 15 GT-R BE/09 370Z
Rep Power: 1402084
FPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond reputeFPenvy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wonka2581 View Post
Call Z1 and get you some RedLine Oil... Thats what I use and I have had no problems...
redline is all i've used in my Z. love it
__________________
324whp/258wtq AAM Tuned |F.I. NonRes CF CBE/NonRes TestPipes #373|UpRev Tuner|Akuma Motorsports Intakes|Z1 34 Row Oil Cooler
Quote:
Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. View Post
Yes, they are Tony approved! Frank, when I get around to it, I may put your pipes into production. We will call them, "The FP" option.
-Tony
FPenvy is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 12:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
bvl
Enthusiast Member
 
bvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: PA
Posts: 362
Drives: MB Roadster (sold)
Rep Power: 13
bvl is on a distinguished road
Default

Read your owners Manual especially the non-us table regarding oil weights that are supported.

You will then realize the nonsense that is the US recommendation.

- b


Sent from my Newton 4.0 using Tapatalk
mishuko likes this.
bvl is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 12:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324197
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I wouldn't worry about it too much in a DD. It'll be a little thicker than Nissan suggests but shouldn't be a big deal. Personally, I'd drain it and go back to 5W30, just for a little peace of mind.
mishuko likes this.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 01:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
MJB
A True Z Fanatic
 
MJB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tacoma, WA
Age: 40
Posts: 1,498
Drives: a POS truck
Rep Power: 495
MJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mishuko View Post
So... it happened my shop made a boo-boo and used 5w40 instead of 5w30... didn't even realize until I got home. So... What happens if you use 5w40? Will some of the more intricate parts lose lube?

I'm not trying to cheap my way out I was just trying to find some info as I tried searching to no luck.

Any oil guru's provide insight?


ps once spring comes i'm getting the filter and oil changed to 5w30
I used 0w-40 in my Z for almost 3 years. My 09 was burning a qrt of oil every 3k miles. After I made the switch to 0W-40, I would burn maybe 1/4qrt every 3k miles and oil temps were a bit lower as well. You'll be fine. Just switch back to 5w-30 if you want on your next oil change.
FL 4Motion and mishuko like this.
__________________
09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.
MJB is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 01:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
mishuko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: bouncin on tigga
Posts: 8,062
Drives: '12 Z
Rep Power: 9434
mishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond reputemishuko has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Read your owners Manual especially the non-us table regarding oil weights that are supported.

You will then realize the nonsense that is the US recommendation.

- b
I'm in Canada... I was sifting through the pages and didn't find anything which section should I check? I did the back section and then how to change oil section and couldn't find anything other than 5w30 or any table with 'non-us tables'...

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z View Post
I wouldn't worry about it too much in a DD. It'll be a little thicker than Nissan suggests but shouldn't be a big deal. Personally, I'd drain it and go back to 5W30, just for a little peace of mind.
It's not even a DD it's a spirited driving machine of fun for the evening/weekends... okay maybe an occasional DD but mostly for the road trips and cruising

It's not like I sit at 6krpm in first for an hour just because lol....


Quote:
Originally Posted by MJB View Post
I used 0w-40 in my Z for almost 3 years. My 09 was burning a qrt of oil every 3k miles. After I made the switch to 0W-40, I would burn maybe 1/4qrt every 3k miles and oil temps were a bit lower as well. You'll be fine. Just switch back to 5w-30 if you want on your next oil change.
I did notice I burned about a quart over 7000km but it's parked now for the winter... just doing some pondering for spring. I appreciate your insight on experience with your oil use though.

I think I'll go with the general consensus and switch back to 5w30 but I'm also tempted to try this weight oil to see if I notice any difference or not. Atleast I have around 5 months to ponder
mishuko is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 04:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: socal
Posts: 1,084
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 13434
nis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond reputenis350 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Isn't 1 qt per 3k miles a bit excessive?

the oil consumption maybe related to the fact that the engine is more broken into after you switched to 0w-40

Quote:
Originally Posted by MJB View Post
I used 0w-40 in my Z for almost 3 years. My 09 was burning a qrt of oil every 3k miles. After I made the switch to 0W-40, I would burn maybe 1/4qrt every 3k miles and oil temps were a bit lower as well. You'll be fine. Just switch back to 5w-30 if you want on your next oil change.
nis350 is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 05:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
MJB
A True Z Fanatic
 
MJB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tacoma, WA
Age: 40
Posts: 1,498
Drives: a POS truck
Rep Power: 495
MJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond reputeMJB has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nis350 View Post
Isn't 1 qt per 3k miles a bit excessive?

the oil consumption maybe related to the fact that the engine is more broken into after you switched to 0w-40
As long as the level on the dipstick doesn't drop more than 10mm per 1.5k miles, Nissan says its ok. I think mine was right about 9mm. I bought my car with 10k miles on it, and switched to 0w-40 at around 20k miles. I had read somewhere that since our engines produce so much heat, and oil temps tend to stay really high, that 5w-30 can thin out enough to slip pass the rings, and that a thicker oil may help with oil consumption. It worked for me.
__________________
09 Nismo #0483 sold. Viper or C7 next time around.
MJB is offline  
Old 11-17-2014, 05:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sydney
Posts: 428
Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z MB M6
Rep Power: 138
juld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond reputejuld0zer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

i did a mini-overhaul of my CVTC/VVT system about 6 weeks ago. Prior to the work, the car was reluctant to rev beyond 4000rpm. I was running 5w40 to try increase oil pressure but it's effect wore off so hence i decided to overhaul it. This was at 58000km.

What i replaced was the o-rings on the camshaft covers, the seal between the cover and timing chain rear case, the VVT filters, one solenoid valve as it was leaking thru the electrical connector.

In short, 5w40 will have slightly higher pressure at operating temp. But personally, i'd stick to the handbook recommendations - 5w30. VVT systems are vital to the performance of modern engines and they can be very fussy with oil.
juld0zer is offline  
Old 11-18-2014, 09:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
bvl
Enthusiast Member
 
bvl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: PA
Posts: 362
Drives: MB Roadster (sold)
Rep Power: 13
bvl is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mishuko View Post
I'm in Canada... I was sifting through the pages and didn't find anything which section should I check? I did the back section and then how to change oil section and couldn't find anything other than 5w30 or any table with 'non-us tables'...
Apologies I thought it was in the basic manual but checking my PDF its US specific. The service manual however, is world wide

So for North America (and that includes you I know ) its 5w30 only.

Yet for the rest of the world there is this lovely Blurb and chart:

GASOLINE ENGINE • 10W-30 is preferable.
5W-30 is also preferable and will improve fuel economy.
If 10W-30 or 5W-30 is not available, select the viscosity, from the chart, that is suitable for the outside temperature range.

Chart shows you can run 5/40 in the right temp range, even 20/50.

Out of warranty, my choice of year round fill is likely going to be M1 0/40, which is a 'light' 40w with a fantastic add pack for the price.

Under warranty (still is) its been a stead diet of 5/30 full Penn Ultra.

- b
bvl is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Newbie Question... smart key question ellebycul New Forum Member 3 05-01-2011 05:04 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2