N/A HP BRAG thread

Elmo370z · 06-06-2015, 10:24 PM

Yes but the number of tuners is limited. And tune per gear flat foot shifting launch control etc... for na cars

brucelidat · 06-06-2015, 11:55 PM

So it's not for boosted applications yet?

Elmo370z · 06-07-2015, 01:32 AM

Yea for any application. Until u
uprev comes out with new updates ecu tek seems to be the way to go.

brucelidat · 06-07-2015, 02:52 AM

Oh, you're saying it's limited for na cars, not limited to only being useful for na cars right now. So if you can tune vvel you could maybe get more power out of a stillen sc kit with headers versus stock cats since stillen was saying that was the reason why their kit makes more power with stock cats.

Jordo! · 06-07-2015, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

Oh, you're saying it's limited for na cars, not limited to only being useful for na cars right now. So if you can tune vvel you could maybe get more power out of a stillen sc kit with headers versus stock cats since stillen was saying that was the reason why their kit makes more power with stock cats.

That had to be a problem of more flow potential than the blowers could handle.

Too small, bottle neck; too big, everything slows down. Getting it just right is the hard part on designing these sorts of things.

Same goes for the IC piping and core, BTW...

brucelidat · 06-07-2015, 12:54 PM

Stillen said it was due to overlap or timing or so ething related to vvel. I don't think the issue is that the blower came move enough air.

synolimit · 09-15-2015, 05:20 PM

For you dynojet people, I'm curious of the wheels and tires.

chuckie311 · 09-16-2015, 11:48 AM

my first dyno i was running stock gear 3.36 with 20 inch vossen with 245/35/20 hankook
second dyno 4.08 gear 20 inch vossen with 255/35/20 BFG G-Sport pro comp 2

synolimit · 09-16-2015, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckie311

my first dyno i was running stock gear 3.36 with 20 inch vossen with 245/35/20 hankook
second dyno 4.08 gear 20 inch vossen with 255/35/20 BFG G-Sport pro comp 2

What happened with power? Dynojet compensate or did your number change?

chuckie311 · 09-16-2015, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit

What happened with power? Dynojet compensate or did your number change?

number change with the gears there is no 1:1 or anything close to it with the gear change
my tuner said that the dynojet is simulate driving on the street so its load based.

320whp-268tq 3.36 gears
301whp-249tq 4.08 gears

red was 4.08 4th gear
yellow was 3.36 4th gear
green was 4.08 5th gear

brucelidat · 09-16-2015, 04:13 PM

interesting, so my number might be higher if i were running stock gears

chuckie311 · 09-16-2015, 04:18 PM

it absolutely would be..as you see I saw a loss of 19whp and TQ with the gear change..
as my tuner said don't get stuck on numbers its just for tuning and such..
I wouldn't switch back to the stock gear for anything I love the 4.08
im going to try and hit the track within the next few months and get some trap times

12nismo · 09-16-2015, 04:30 PM

^ Agreed, I've been told the same thing in regards to my 4.08 FD since 5th gear is now under 1:1. The engine still makes the same power, but it will read lower than it actually is. Makes me want to slap a factory FD in the car just to see what it makes now...I'm making 345whp now on the 4.08's.

phunk · 09-16-2015, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12nismo

^ Agreed, I've been told the same thing in regards to my 4.08 FD since 5th gear is now under 1:1. The engine still makes the same power, but it will read lower than it actually is. Makes me want to slap a factory FD in the car just to see what it makes now...I'm making 345whp now on the 4.08's.

That doesnt exactly make sense.

The 5th transmission gear is still 1:1, no matter what you do with the final drive.

The reason you lose power with the 4.08 on the dyno is because the final drive ratio is now further away from 1:1 (independent of the transmission). The further you go from 1:1, the greater the losses through the gearing in the final drive itself.

So 5th gear is still 1:1, its just that you have increased losses in the differential.

Also, I believe that the quicker rate of acceleration on the dyno will cause power reading to go down. But that one I am still on the fence about.

chuckie311 · 09-16-2015, 06:02 PM

Wow those are some great numbers on the 4.08 gears

06-06-2015, 11:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	So it's not for boosted applications yet? __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

06-07-2015, 02:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	Oh, you're saying it's limited for na cars, not limited to only being useful for na cars right now. So if you can tune vvel you could maybe get more power out of a stillen sc kit with headers versus stock cats since stillen was saying that was the reason why their kit makes more power with stock cats. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

06-07-2015, 12:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	Stillen said it was due to overlap or timing or so ething related to vvel. I don't think the issue is that the blower came move enough air. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-15-2015, 05:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3390	For you dynojet people, I'm curious of the wheels and tires. __________________ 13 370z-

09-16-2015, 11:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
chuckie311 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: las vegas Posts: 313 Drives: Q50/G37 Rep Power: 14	my first dyno i was running stock gear 3.36 with 20 inch vossen with 245/35/20 hankook second dyno 4.08 gear 20 inch vossen with 255/35/20 BFG G-Sport pro comp 2 __________________ Tuned by (Seb@Specialty-Z) 2011 G37 Cam'd FBO 347whp 280wtq Corn Fed 4.08 Gears

06-06-2015, 10:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,727 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295379	Yes but the number of tuners is limited. And tune per gear flat foot shifting launch control etc... for na cars

06-07-2015, 01:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,727 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295379	Yea for any application. Until u uprev comes out with new updates ecu tek seems to be the way to go.

09-16-2015, 04:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 32	interesting, so my number might be higher if i were running stock gears __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-16-2015, 04:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
chuckie311 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: las vegas Posts: 313 Drives: Q50/G37 Rep Power: 14	it absolutely would be..as you see I saw a loss of 19whp and TQ with the gear change.. as my tuner said don't get stuck on numbers its just for tuning and such.. I wouldn't switch back to the stock gear for anything I love the 4.08 im going to try and hit the track within the next few months and get some trap times __________________ Tuned by (Seb@Specialty-Z) 2011 G37 Cam'd FBO 347whp 280wtq Corn Fed 4.08 Gears

09-16-2015, 04:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
12nismo Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 153 Drives: 2012 370z nismo Rep Power: 16	^ Agreed, I've been told the same thing in regards to my 4.08 FD since 5th gear is now under 1:1. The engine still makes the same power, but it will read lower than it actually is. Makes me want to slap a factory FD in the car just to see what it makes now...I'm making 345whp now on the 4.08's. __________________ nismo Z34 12 0209 JTran Motorsports//Stillen//Fast Intentions//EcuTek//Z1 Motorsports//Eibach//BRIDE //Zspeed//Carbon Signal//Houston Halos//Southbend//Whiteline//TWM//NonStopTuning//Doran Racing

09-16-2015, 06:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
chuckie311 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: las vegas Posts: 313 Drives: Q50/G37 Rep Power: 14	Wow those are some great numbers on the 4.08 gears __________________ Tuned by (Seb@Specialty-Z) 2011 G37 Cam'd FBO 347whp 280wtq Corn Fed 4.08 Gears

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