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Old 01-25-2013, 03:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Please, prove me wrong. I will happily make a public apology if you get cars running around showing real-world results at the end-user level. I want to be wrong. If what you're doing actually works, it is a HUGE breakthrough. At this point though, you have no more credibility than any of the other people that have brought something like this to market and they have been thoroughly debunked by now.
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Please, prove me wrong. I will happily make a public apology if you get cars running around showing real-world results at the end-user level. I want to be wrong. If what you're doing actually works, it is a HUGE breakthrough. At this point though, you have no more credibility than any of the other people that have brought something like this to market and they have been thoroughly debunked by now.
Took the words right out of my mouth.


lorenz1955: I will also eat crow if you will just show us independent (and reliable) replication/verification of your results. At this point, I might even settle for a reasonable hypothesis of how you can get more energy out of the system than you put in. So far, you have provided neither.
Put up or shut up.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.


lorenz1955: I will also eat crow if you will just show us independent (and reliable) replication/verification of your results. At this point, I might even settle for a reasonable hypothesis of how you can get more energy out of the system than you put in. So far, you have provided neither.
Put up or shut up.
I'm sorry southark,
but I think you didn't read well ... the site. under Results there is a pdf file , open and read it.
I haven't written myself, I wrote a Pc, that controls the emissions and consumption of most cars from all over the world ... read well.
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I'm sorry southark,
but I think you didn't read well ... the site. under Results there is a pdf file , open and read it.
I haven't written myself, I wrote a Pc, that controls the emissions and consumption of most cars from all over the world ... read well.
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Can't find it. All I see is a JPG with one set of results.
Nor can I find any details on the procedures used.
But that may be because I'm tired of these wild goose chases and didn't dig very deep.

What is "NEUDC"? I can't find anything other than some economic organization. Never mind. You'll just come up with more BS. I'm outta here. Unsubbed.
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Can't find it. All I see is a JPG with one set of results.
Nor can I find any details on the procedures used.
But that may be because I'm tired of these wild goose chases and didn't dig very deep.

What is "NEUDC"? I can't find anything other than some economic organization. Never mind. You'll just come up with more BS. I'm outta here. Unsubbed.
NEUDC = NEW EUROPEAN DRIVE CYCLE.
It is the standard test cycle for type approval of European road cars.
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Please, prove me wrong. I will happily make a public apology if you get cars running around showing real-world results at the end-user level. I want to be wrong. If what you're doing actually works, it is a HUGE breakthrough. At this point though, you have no more credibility than any of the other people that have brought something like this to market and they have been thoroughly debunked by now.
Dear Chuck,
American sellers of HHO Kits, were unmasked by years.
Please learn more :
Fuel saving device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and more :
Fuel saving - a professional engineer's view
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American sellers of HHO Kits, were unmasked by years.
Please learn more :
Fuel saving device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and more :
Fuel saving - a professional engineer's view
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Ok, now I'm confused. The first link is taking me to the wikipedia page that says you're shoveling ****, and the second is a dead webpage? How were those being used to support your position that this **** works?
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