Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures

eastwest2300 · 07-02-2015, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolKarmaJoe

My reply to Nissan:
NISSAN OFFICIAL

Cherielyn,

Thank you for replying. I will get the requested information to you ASAP. I am concerned as why you need my insurance information. Could you please explain why?

Are you aware of a site called - The370z.com -? The reason I mention this is because there are many 370Z owners experiencing Clutch Slave Cylinder Failure. You may want to view www.the370z.com , and then go to thread (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures ... There is a extensive list of 370Z owners with same problem.

On a personal note, I find it odd of you not to post your entire name. I have no problem giving my full name, why is it that you are so evasive? It does give the feeling of a unconcerned, bogus, community relations office on Nissan part.

Sincerely,

Joseph S

I dont think this was a good idea, going back & forth with Nissan is a waste of time on your part and theirs, and giving them direction to this forum (as if they're actually going to read through several pages of this & that) its kinda like we're showing our hand in a deck of cards.

You have to get a 3rd party involved, wether it be the NHTSA or someone else. Nissan or whomever deals with customer complaints is just that, this is what nissan prefers, the general public has no idea that theres a big problem, Nissan doesnt want the general public to know that their manual transmissions have issues and would rather keep it in a personal relationship..

Zbrah · 07-01-2015, 10:19 PM

We need more complaints with NHTSA! I strongly feel this is the best way of getting Nissan take ownership of the problem...they're just playing games right now like they always do...issue some generic response and pretending to care, meanwhile they make you jump through hoops and providing your personal information, they do this in hoping to discourage you to give up. Most people usually do...and it's the main reason why Nissan had gotten away with dodging this issue all these years the 370z been in existence. When enough people complained, the NHTSA will have to come down with an investigation and force a recall. Hopefully with a hefty penalty ensue.

eastwest2300 · 07-02-2015, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

We need more complaints with NHTSA! I strongly feel this is the best way of getting Nissan take ownership of the problem...they're just playing games right now like they always do...issue some generic response and pretending to care, meanwhile they make you jump through hoops and providing your personal information, they do this in hoping to discourage you to give up. Most people usually do...and it's the main reason why Nissan had gotten away with dodging this issue all these years the 370z been in existence. When enough people complained, the NHTSA will have to come down with an investigation and force a recall. Hopefully with a hefty penalty ensue.

I agree with you 100%.

onzedge · 07-02-2015, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

I agree with you 100%.

eastwest2300 · 07-02-2015, 07:08 AM

The bigger thing is cost, you look at what it would take to replace this CSC, of course Nissan wants NO part in getting this issue resolved. It would cost them millions! Easily.

Zbrah · 07-02-2015, 03:25 PM

Any issue causing by over filling the fluid over the max line? I'm a bit over when I refilled mine a couple weeks back, no issues since then.

Cheech · 07-03-2015, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah

Any issue causing by over filling the fluid over the max line? I'm a bit over when I refilled mine a couple weeks back, no issues since then.

It is brake fluid and will expand as it heats up. Having it above the max line doesn't give it much room to expand before pressing on the lid. Probably don't want the extra pressure on the seals/o-rings

We did mAke it to Vegas with no issues

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Zbrah · 07-05-2015, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheech

It is brake fluid and will expand as it heats up. Having it above the max line doesn't give it much room to expand before pressing on the lid. Probably don't want the extra pressure on the seals/o-rings

We did mAke it to Vegas with no issues

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Good point. Thanks!

ShutokuZ · 07-02-2015, 04:53 PM

Mine felt the same way with the GTR fluid. But, mine started off feeling really light through the entire pedal travel, then firmed up as I drove it about 10 miles. Every day now if feels like it did before I got the fluid and CSC changed, but it does firm up beyond what it was before as I drive it. Strange..... Oh, and my fluid was also above the full line, but it has caused no problems at all. The cap does not force it up when pushing it down, so all is good.

Vbp6US · 07-02-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ

Mine felt the same way with the GTR fluid. But, mine started off feeling really light through the entire pedal travel, then firmed up as I drove it about 10 miles. Every day now if feels like it did before I got the fluid and CSC changed, but it does firm up beyond what it was before as I drive it. Strange..... Oh, and my fluid was also above the full line, but it has caused no problems at all. The cap does not force it up when pushing it down, so all is good.

This is exactly how my clutch pedal feels. It's loose when I first turn the car on. It isn't until the first 5-10 miles that the clutch pedal returns to its normal stiffness from the top all the way down to the bottom. Going to take it into Nissan tomorrow to see what they say.

ShutokuZ · 07-02-2015, 08:12 PM

^
Are you using GTR fluid?

Mine isn't light anymore after the initial drive after the fluid/CSC swap. Mine feels normal as it did before the swap, but does get a little more stiff while driving. It doesn't get too stiff however. Doesn't bother me at all, and I will take it over a soft/mushy pedal!

Vbp6US · 07-03-2015, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ShutokuZ

^
Are you using GTR fluid?

Mine isn't light anymore after the initial drive after the fluid/CSC swap. Mine feels normal as it did before the swap, but does get a little more stiff while driving. It doesn't get too stiff however. Doesn't bother me at all, and I will take it over a soft/mushy pedal!

I'm not using GTR fluid, yet. I may request the dealer to put it in tomorrow and see what they say.

firulice · 07-04-2015, 06:07 PM

Drove my Z to San Diego and back yesterday/this morning. About 80 miles from home, pulling off the freeway for gas, my clutch pedal only came up halfway from the floor. After a few shifts it popped back up and felt normal. Then getting off the freeway at home it did the same thing. Guessing a failure is coming? I only have 21k miles. From what I've seen upgrade to z speed and also replace the mc? Anything else? Lame. I already bitched on the nissan fb page linked in this thread.

ShutokuZ · 07-05-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by firulice

Drove my Z to San Diego and back yesterday/this morning. About 80 miles from home, pulling off the freeway for gas, my clutch pedal only came up halfway from the floor. After a few shifts it popped back up and felt normal. Then getting off the freeway at home it did the same thing. Guessing a failure is coming? I only have 21k miles. From what I've seen upgrade to z speed and also replace the mc? Anything else? Lame. I already bitched on the nissan fb page linked in this thread.

I love Nissan's canned reply statements on the FB page regarding the CSC failures.... "Contact your closest Nissan dealer". Well no s**t!

firulice · 07-05-2015, 09:58 PM

Yeah why bother. I checked my fluid and it does not seem overly dirty and it is right in between the MAX and MIN lines. What do you guys think, how long do I have? This is not my daily driver but I also don't want to get stranded somewhere

07-01-2015, 10:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5453	We need more complaints with NHTSA! I strongly feel this is the best way of getting Nissan take ownership of the problem...they're just playing games right now like they always do...issue some generic response and pretending to care, meanwhile they make you jump through hoops and providing your personal information, they do this in hoping to discourage you to give up. Most people usually do...and it's the main reason why Nissan had gotten away with dodging this issue all these years the 370z been in existence. When enough people complained, the NHTSA will have to come down with an investigation and force a recall. Hopefully with a hefty penalty ensue. __________________

07-02-2015, 07:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,035 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684553	The bigger thing is cost, you look at what it would take to replace this CSC, of course Nissan wants NO part in getting this issue resolved. It would cost them millions! Easily. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

07-02-2015, 03:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Zbrah A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: The370Z.com Posts: 4,956 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 5453	Any issue causing by over filling the fluid over the max line? I'm a bit over when I refilled mine a couple weeks back, no issues since then. __________________

07-02-2015, 08:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
ShutokuZ Track Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 512 Drives: 2013 PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 15	^ Are you using GTR fluid? Mine isn't light anymore after the initial drive after the fluid/CSC swap. Mine feels normal as it did before the swap, but does get a little more stiff while driving. It doesn't get too stiff however. Doesn't bother me at all, and I will take it over a soft/mushy pedal! Last edited by ShutokuZ; 07-02-2015 at 08:16 PM.

07-04-2015, 06:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
firulice Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: utah Posts: 277 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 1107	Drove my Z to San Diego and back yesterday/this morning. About 80 miles from home, pulling off the freeway for gas, my clutch pedal only came up halfway from the floor. After a few shifts it popped back up and felt normal. Then getting off the freeway at home it did the same thing. Guessing a failure is coming? I only have 21k miles. From what I've seen upgrade to z speed and also replace the mc? Anything else? Lame. I already bitched on the nissan fb page linked in this thread. __________________ 40th-40th edition. HFC, Nismo exhaust, Stillen intakes, GTR start, UpRev

07-02-2015, 04:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
ShutokuZ Track Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 512 Drives: 2013 PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 15	Mine felt the same way with the GTR fluid. But, mine started off feeling really light through the entire pedal travel, then firmed up as I drove it about 10 miles. Every day now if feels like it did before I got the fluid and CSC changed, but it does firm up beyond what it was before as I drive it. Strange..... Oh, and my fluid was also above the full line, but it has caused no problems at all. The cap does not force it up when pushing it down, so all is good.

07-05-2015, 09:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
firulice Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: utah Posts: 277 Drives: 40th Rep Power: 1107	Yeah why bother. I checked my fluid and it does not seem overly dirty and it is right in between the MAX and MIN lines. What do you guys think, how long do I have? This is not my daily driver but I also don't want to get stranded somewhere __________________ 40th-40th edition. HFC, Nismo exhaust, Stillen intakes, GTR start, UpRev

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