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Hey guys this is pretty dumb but itís been annoying me for a while. Iíve been DD my 370 for about 5 years and for the life of me still

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Old 03-14-2020, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys this is pretty dumb but itís been annoying me for a while. Iíve been DD my 370 for about 5 years and for the life of me still canít quite nail the 1st to 2nd. During normal take offs Iím fine but when I want to test my 0-60 against a Ford Focus Iím either waiting for what feels like 2 seconds for the Rpms to drop from redline so I can rev match the shift or Iím just instant dumping the clutch. What do yíall normally doing when quickly taking off? I like to be gentle to the clutch so I prefer to rev match but is dumping it basically the only way to get around the rev hang?
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I think this is like an issue for most everyone, especially with a stock clutch/flywheel. That + the synchros are far from the best. Maybe the one thing that has improved with time for me, is getting used to that small engagement window. If you know where your foot should stop, the lift afterwards won't be so much of a "dump".
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Need tips how to shift smoothly


Need some help with shifting.
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Gentlemen,

If you want a predictable clutch engagement on the 370z, you'll have to upgrade the clutch pedal assembly.

If you have driven many manual transmission cars, the first time you got inside a 370Z you discovered that the clutch takeup/engagement window is a nightmare to do smoothly with any predictability, without a LOT of practice. Nissan missed the boat on the clutch setup of the 370z.

I've owned a 1970 240Z, a 1984 300zx, and a 1990 300z, all manuals, and they were all a thousand times better to get off the line and shift properly through the first three gears than the 370z.

One of the best fixes is to swap out the entire clutch pedal assembly with the RJMPerformance clutch pedal assembly that changes the entire clutch experience and transforms the 370z entirely. The car is so much more enjoyable to drive with this setup. Google RJMPerformance to check it out.

I installed it in my car myself in about 2 hours, and I would never go back to the original clutch pedal assembly.

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Try the RJM pedal and see if that helps. You won't get a lot of help around here. Well unless your posting something they have then it's ok.

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You don't need to install a RJM pedal. I don't have any issues at all.
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Helper spring replacement is all I needed.
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Helper spring replacement is all I needed.
I changed the spring in mine. And it has a different feel to it.
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Yes, much better.
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Hey guys this is pretty dumb but itís been annoying me for a while. Iíve been DD my 370 for about 5 years and for the life of me still canít quite nail the 1st to 2nd. During normal take offs Iím fine but when I want to test my 0-60 against a Ford Focus Iím either waiting for what feels like 2 seconds for the Rpms to drop from redline so I can rev match the shift or Iím just instant dumping the clutch. What do yíall normally doing when quickly taking off? I like to be gentle to the clutch so I prefer to rev match but is dumping it basically the only way to get around the rev hang?
Outside of the it's a really bad idea to 'test my 0-60 against a Ford Focus' (I think that's called 'street racing' and discussion of said topic is forbidden here.) I've never had a problem with a 1st to 2nd gear shift.

Just continue dumping the clutch, you'll solve your problems forthwith...
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Practice, Practice, Practice.

If you haven't figured it out in 5 years, then you either won't ever get it or you haven't been trying hard enough. Just pay attention to the feedback from the car. Your clutch engagement will be different at different speeds on the 1-2 shift - practice the shift at varying speeds.
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But he isn't asking for your issues, he's asking for help with his.....
I read his comment as "You just need to practice more". Sounds like pretty good advice to me.

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Maybe the power couple here can share some insight on how spring only is all they needed for same issue to be fixed....?
It's called "physics". Read the posts on the spring swap. Not a perfect solution for everyone, but it works for many.
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I read his comment as "You just need to practice more". Sounds like pretty good advice to me.


It's called "physics". Read the posts on the spring swap. Not a perfect solution for everyone, but it works for many.
Whoaaaa physics...can you elaborate? Sounds pretty... Intelligent and above my IQ... But also you don't have to direct your post to me.... The OP is looking for resolution
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I must have stalled out the Z about 50 times the first few week I got it. I've driven manuals for the last 22 years from poorly maintained pickups to cheap "sports" cars all with difficult clutches in their own ways. The combination of a bit of cockiness, from said experience, and the light and high engagement point lead to a lot of initial difficultly getting the car to perform how I expected. I got better but would still mess up if not paying enough attention because clutch engagement was more about memory rather then feel.

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To improve feel I did 3 things.
Lighter helper spring did a little good but not very noticeable.
CSC elimination kit helped with the engagement point a bit.
Heavier clutch spring when I upgraded the clutch helped the most.

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