DIY: Oil Cooler Installation on a Nismo (Damper Included!) - vipor

spearfish25

Chris,

Did you ever find a 200F thermostat?



Everyone,

No one else nervous about those hoses held in place with just two zip ties each?

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ChrisSlicks

I did. Race Parts Wholesale said they could get the 200 degree thermostatic plate with a 7-10 day lead time and an up charge. I forget what the exact difference in price was.

The zip tie is not required, the hose holds itself in place all by itself. At this point I would trust those aeroquip fittings more than I do the traditional one given that we've seen two of those blow up so far.

vipor

Aeroquip Socketless Racing Hose
Easy assembly with reusable SOCKETLESS fittings; textile braid reinforcement; available in either blue or black elastomer cover. Patented Aeroquip® elastomer smooth bore inner tube, -45 to +300 F temperature rating. Operating pressure for all sizes at 250 PSI. Applications include fuel, lube, coolant, and air.

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Munt

Very tidy Job and a credit to you, if i was going to install an oil cooler i would be more than happy to start from scratch following your in depth instructions.Im more keen at the moment of doing a cooler for the Auto as i relly enjoy the fast shifting manually either with the paddles or by the shift lever. No heating problems here my oil has never got above 90 degree C but then a hot day here is only 30 degree C and I have not run it on a track.Any Ideas about a transmission cooler??

vipor

Thanks for the good words

I haven't actually looked into a tranny cooler as of yet, and haven't really heard of anyone having issues either. Don't really know too much about the 7AT though.

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NismoZ34_078

Excelllent job!!! Great detail write-up. I'm planning to do mine asap.

vipor

Thanks Take your time and it'll be easy.

SIDENOTE: Turns out Aeroquip says that zip-tying the hose on the fittings is NOT recommended. I'll be getting under my car sometime soon and inspecting the fittings for any seeping or loosening. The ties will be getting snipped.

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ChrisSlicks

So what's the solution then? Mike had nothing and his blew off causing him to crash his car.

vipor

The Aeroquip Socketless Hoses are designed to stay on by themselves.

The exact cause of his issue is unknown. I know a few people that have been using these for a long time on everything from cars to ATVs to rock crawlers and never had an issue.

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abakja1

So what is the verdict on this issue?
I would rather have some kind of backup plan for peace of mind if the hose were to come off somehow. I was thinking of using 1 small hose clamp at the end, but dont know why zip ties wouldnt be recommended. But in reading threads on the web elsewhere, its "designed" to be used w/o any clamps or ties.

In Aeroquip you must trust i guess...we'll see....

I found this topic on a Buick Grand National thread:
Post 21:
"Originally Posted by S10xGN View Post
Why would you think that? I can't see how it possibly could... After installing this hose on my oiling system, I didn't feel "comfortable" with it. Instead of hose clamps, I used a pair of tie-wraps on each fitting.
Reply: According to my local hydraulic shop, he has seen MANY push lock failures due to hose clamps. They are engineered to work with out them. I'll side with him, as that is what he does for a living, and would stand to make a few more $$ selling hose clamps."

Post 22:
Aeroquip specifically states not to use a clamp over the hose and fittings. I can distort the hose and fitting causing a failure. Ive used the parker stuff in transmission stuff. Its also nice. But I cannot find any parker stuff with the nylon braid thats NHRA legal.


Also, it was noted that since it is "clampless", the hose may pull off if there is not enough slack for movement. Thus this movement ends off pulling the hose off the socketless ends . To avoid this, Im leaving a little slack on the Mocal side and oil cooler side..



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yeah I was too lazy to drop the core for oil changes intermittentantly so I just mounted the oil cooler upside down. Draw back was I had to take off the front dampner on the nismo, which I don't mind because I still dont' see a gain or loss.

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G Fo12ce

Great job Vipor, thanks for the write up!

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370Zsteve

I was going to say something about zip ties deteriorating over time. They become brittle, crack, and fall apart. I've seen it many times on motorcycles.

Oh and Vipor, what a great detailed DIY. Nice to have a tech like your brother, too! Loks like the Dremel Mods were key.

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vipor

I inspected the fittings the other day and I didn't see any sweating or movement. With a couple people having issues I was definitely concerned, but after this many miles and a HPDE weekend I think if something were to happen it already would have.

When I get my headers I'll give everything a better look once it's on a lift. I'll probably get rid of the zip ties too per the manufacturers recommendation.

Thanks for the good words guys, hope it helps you out

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Kastley85891

Sweet write up and parts costing ;-)

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