Swift Spec-R springs

olddudesrule · 08-24-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

How much was it out? Did you just get a lock out bolt kit? I'm making my own since the bolts can be bought at any auto store for a dollar each and the plates just need cut to the size of the grooves in the sub frame.

I didn't measure it like you did (smart move) before I installed adjustable rear arms and toe bolts. That said, when I got to the alignment shop, I was -1.6 left and -0.6 right. After the alignment, I was -1.6/-1.5. The toe was more of an issue at .95/1.20 before, but readjusted back to min spec of .10/.10. I probably aided in the toe mis-adjustment when I installed the toe bolts. I don't think the springs were to blame as much.

synolimit · 08-24-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by olddudesrule

I didn't measure it like you did (smart move) before I installed adjustable rear arms and toe bolts. That said, when I got to the alignment shop, I was -1.6 left and -0.6 right. After the alignment, I was -1.6/-1.5. The toe was more of an issue at .95/1.20 before, but readjusted back to min spec of .10/.10. I probably aided in the toe mis-adjustment when I installed the toe bolts. I don't think the springs were to blame as much.

Yeah and the camber was prob like that because the arms could be set anywhere from the factory. Are your bolts eccentric or is it a lockout kit? I'm assuming eccentric because you said you adjusted toe and didn't buy toe arms. I guess adding just a bolt not allowing toe adjustment would not be a good think unless someone lucky that toe would be perfect.

olddudesrule · 08-31-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit

Yeah and the camber was prob like that because the arms could be set anywhere from the factory. Are your bolts eccentric or is it a lockout kit? I'm assuming eccentric because you said you adjusted toe and didn't buy toe arms. I guess adding just a bolt not allowing toe adjustment would not be a good think unless someone lucky that toe would be perfect.

Sorry for the delay. Out of town for work. Before installing the adjustable arms, I measured them against the stock arms, and then did the install. I guess my measurement was a bit off. The bolts are eccentric. Based on everything I read here, you really need to do both the adjustable arms (for camber) and the toe bolts (for toe) to get the proper adjustments necessary to get back to factory spec. I toyed with the idea of replacing all three arms in back, but decided it was overkill for my application.

synolimit · 08-31-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by olddudesrule

Sorry for the delay. Out of town for work. Before installing the adjustable arms, I measured them against the stock arms, and then did the install. I guess my measurement was a bit off. The bolts are eccentric. Based on everything I read here, you really need to do both the adjustable arms (for camber) and the toe bolts (for toe) to get the proper adjustments necessary to get back to factory spec. I toyed with the idea of replacing all three arms in back, but decided it was overkill for my application.

I really hope I don't have to adjust toe. Installed a lockout kit for the toe and camber bolts and at the moment I'm in spec but springs are still stock.

olddudesrule · 08-31-2013, 09:05 PM

Well, I don't really understand why changing the springs and lowering the car should affect the toe measurements anyway. Camber I can see, but it seems strange that toe should change.

synolimit · 08-31-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by olddudesrule

Well, I don't really understand why changing the springs and lowering the car should affect the toe measurements anyway. Camber I can see, but it seems strange that toe should change.

I guess it does. Hell why can't a manufacture make a car and set it up for zero toe if suspension movement didn't effect it?

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olddudesrule Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 252 Drives: 2012 Nismo Rep Power: 13	Well, I don't really understand why changing the springs and lowering the car should affect the toe measurements anyway. Camber I can see, but it seems strange that toe should change.