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Originally Posted by Cuban Z Couldn't disagree more. Yesterday I bottomed out on the 405...I still love this place. Do we have our problems? Do some of our roads suck?

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Old 05-26-2013, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Couldn't disagree more. Yesterday I bottomed out on the 405...I still love this place. Do we have our problems? Do some of our roads suck? Did our ball team choke this year? Yes, Yes, and Yes. But like Ice Cube says..."there ain't nothing else like LA." There are many, many worse places to live than on SoCal...especially for a car guy! Not trying to start any ****, just offering a different perspective on our great state and city for anyone not familiar with it.
He's talking about Louisiana, not Los Angeles
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Couldn't disagree more. Yesterday I bottomed out on the 405...I still love this place. Do we have our problems? Do some of our roads suck? Did our ball team choke this year? Yes, Yes, and Yes. But like Ice Cube says..."there ain't nothing else like LA." There are many, many worse places to live than on SoCal...especially for a car guy! Not trying to start any ****, just offering a different perspective on our great state and city for anyone not familiar with it.
You're talking about LA. It's nice there except the crime and politics. Here in my LA, even the crime and politics are glossed over in favor of bitching about even worse things, and we lead the nation in murder.
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He's talking about Louisiana, not Los Angeles
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Tq check the caliper bracket. That could cause the rotor to warp via a loose caliper.
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One stop should never destroy a set of rotors. I've made plenty of panic stops and used my brakes hard with no issue. There's definitely something wrong with yours, and I'm at a loss as to what it is. You've replaced everything but the calipers, and you'd be able to feel it or hear it if a caliper was frozen. I doubt it's heat related, since you're saying it happened after a single stop. Have YOU gotten under the car and looked around? Are the rotors visibly damaged? Are the pads evenly worn? Is everything torqued down? Something's off in your front end. Lastly, this is a stupid question and I'm not trying to be insulting, but you're not holding the brake pedal down when you're stopped, right?
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One stop should never destroy a set of rotors. I've made plenty of panic stops and used my brakes hard with no issue. There's definitely something wrong with yours, and I'm at a loss as to what it is. You've replaced everything but the calipers, and you'd be able to feel it or hear it if a caliper was frozen. I doubt it's heat related, since you're saying it happened after a single stop. Have YOU gotten under the car and looked around? Are the rotors visibly damaged? Are the pads evenly worn? Is everything torqued down? Something's off in your front end. Lastly, this is a stupid question and I'm not trying to be insulting, but you're not holding the brake pedal down when you're stopped, right?
The rotors look ok to the eye. OEM pads looked glazed after 500 miles after being shaved, have not seen stoptech pads. I typically rock the car on inclines or let it creep on declines, even though I doubt I get it hot enough to matter, its habit. They have replaced so much **** they would have caught poor tq values by now or fixed it inadvertently. This is admittedly my first set of slotted rotors. Could it be that slight front end vibration and steering wheel shimmy/vibrarion under braking is normal with them?
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I'm actually looking at the brz. If they came out with an STI model, I might try one more import. Great mileage, and allegedly good handling, and I've heard good crap about subaru. The power isn't really something I worry over. Coming from a c6 z06 to the 370z, I have not missed it, but the brz STI would need a bit nicer interior than the regular brz to seal the deal.
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This brake thing is wearing me thin. Handling is #1 for me, and brakes are a big part of that. My z is a disappointment.
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How slight is "slight"? I'm running out of ideas. If it were my car, I'd get it up in the air and check that everything is tight myself. There's no replacement for verifying things yourself.

The slots should be cleaning off any glazing on the pads, so it seems odd to me that they're already glazed. My next wild *** guess would be a wheel balance issue. Maybe if it's just a little off you could be feeling it under braking only? I'm grasping at straws at this point.

Did you have an accident, or am I confusing you with someone else? If so, was the front end involved? Maybe something got tweaked there.
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How slight is "slight"? I'm running out of ideas. If it were my car, I'd get it up in the air and check that everything is tight myself. There's no replacement for verifying things yourself.

The slots should be cleaning off any glazing on the pads, so it seems odd to me that they're already glazed. My next wild *** guess would be a wheel balance issue. Maybe if it's just a little off you could be feeling it under braking only? I'm grasping at straws at this point.

Did you have an accident, or am I confusing you with someone else? If so, was the front end involved? Maybe something got tweaked there.
Yes, a girl hit my car. It warped its first rotors thousands of miles earlier, though. Very badly. The alignment was redone twice and the front rims are new and have been rebalanced. The vibration was bad enough last time to loudly rattle the bracelet on ky Explorer II, and not quite there now, but at its rate of progression, will be in another week or two. It seems to get progressively worse every day. I kindof want to wait until its OMFG!?!? Bad before I take it back in to the dealer to help underscore my irritation.
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If you try another import, Subaru is a good place to start. Although most imports these days are built here, and it seems like a good chunk of domestics are built in Canada or Mexico.

I feel for you. Recurring issues drive me up the wall. At this point I'd try another dealer simply to rule out another variable.
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I feel for you. Recurring issues drive me up the wall. At this point I'd try another dealer simply to rule out another variable.
I just like the looks of the brz, and an STI model would still likely get around 30mpg freeway. I'm planning to move to the Fayetteville, AR area, and on those tight windy but very clean roads, handling and a good gearbox is worth way more to me than brute grunt, so 230-260bhp in a well tuned 2700# car would be great for me. The paycut ill take (about $40k/year make the note cut attractive as well, but not necessary as I have my life in order. Still, that's a case of ammo a month more I can buy, and this isn't lost on me.

I'm going to be coming up on 36k miles in one year, and also nearing time again to replace tires for optimal rainy safety. If i want an extended warranty and tires, that will be at least $3500+ down the tube. I'm not going to pit $3500 more into a car that has constantly been...I like this...but that blows, for me.

This brake issue is brake issue is the last straw, after the wreck. This car is bad luck. Windshield replaced on day three of ownership, dealer dinged it before delivery with the lift arms. The berk cbe fits for **** only one hanger at the tip working, the mid hangers supporting it. The interior suede is showing age faster than I expected. In short...this is not a $43k msrp performing car. I'm not pleased. The brakes are just a constant problem. I'm all around dissatisfied and the brakes piss me off the most becsuee.they are part of that damn sport package I shelled out for and they suck. Worse than any other car. Ever.
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Then I'm pretty much out of guesses. I'd still get under it and make sure everything's tight yourself, and let another dealer take a look at it. There's only so many things it could be, and you've replaced most of the components already.
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Can you pull the pads out and make sure that the pistons fully retract into the caliper? Maybe one is dragging ever so slightly.
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Can you pull the pads out and make sure that the pistons fully retract into the caliper? Maybe one is dragging ever so slightly.
The pads are always worn evenly, and the rotors don't have any heat spots. My dealership really is a decent place. I want to continue with them for the sake of continuity, and the manager seems in good with Nissan regional.
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