Hotchkis v.s. Stillen Sway Bars?

1cleanZ · 12-12-2011, 04:52 PM

bump from the dead, but why aren't eibach on this thread?? I would take eibach sways over both.

/Angelo350Z/ · 04-30-2016, 05:18 PM

Bringing this thread back from the grave

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I live in Germany and would like to return to the Nurburgring with a very capable car. I used to take my 350Z on the Ring with Eibach Pro Kit springs, OEM shocks, Nismo sways, and 255/285 RE-11 tires, and though it performed well, the suspension simply wasn't suited for that track. My 370Z is currently on KW V1 coilovers, wider 265/305 RE-11s, but with the OEM sway bars. Which brand would you suggest for a high-speed track with sweeping corners and drastic elevation changes, Stillen or Hotchkis? I'm sure both would be an improvement from stock.

Jhill · 04-30-2016, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/

Bringing this thread back from the grave

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I live in Germany and would like to return to the Nurburgring with a very capable car. I used to take my 350Z on the Ring with Eibach Pro Kit springs, OEM shocks, Nismo sways, and 255/285 RE-11 tires, and though it performed well, the suspension simply wasn't suited for that track. My 370Z is currently on KW V1 coilovers, wider 265/305 RE-11s, but with the OEM sway bars. Which brand would you suggest for a high-speed track with sweeping corners and drastic elevation changes, Stillen or Hotchkis? I'm sure both would be an improvement from stock.

I personally after searching a bunch went with stillen. My reasoning was the wide range of adjustment and I daily drive my car too. Sometimes stiffer isn't better. If on slippery surface wet and the car pushes the front you need to soften the front up to get as much front grip as you can. With the hotchkiss it sound extremely stiff and you have no adjustment. So now your only option is to stiffen the rear to try and overpower the front but now you drive like a bar of soap with zero compliance. With the stillen you have 5 settings in the front and 3 in the rear to tailor balance and grip for conditions. I would rather have my bars have the option to be tailored to whatever spring/damper rates I am using or going to use rather than tailor my spring and damper rates around my front bar.

In my believe sway bars should be used along with damper settings to achieve a balance for front to rear handling and spring rates should be used to resist roll.

Rusty · 04-30-2016, 07:16 PM

Most of the track rats here use the Hotchkis bar.

/Angelo350Z/ · 05-01-2016, 02:33 PM

It seems Hotchkis sways would be ideal for a conventional track, one that is mainly flat with minimal elevation changes. However, the Nurburgring is a different beast. It's really no different than a regular European country road. I'll do some more reading, but it seems Stillen sway bars would be ideal for my application.

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/Angelo350Z/ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,230 Drives: Z34 \| MK7 \| F82 Rep Power: 3662	Bringing this thread back from the grave . I live in Germany and would like to return to the Nurburgring with a very capable car. I used to take my 350Z on the Ring with Eibach Pro Kit springs, OEM shocks, Nismo sways, and 255/285 RE-11 tires, and though it performed well, the suspension simply wasn't suited for that track. My 370Z is currently on KW V1 coilovers, wider 265/305 RE-11s, but with the OEM sway bars. Which brand would you suggest for a high-speed track with sweeping corners and drastic elevation changes, Stillen or Hotchkis? I'm sure both would be an improvement from stock. __________________ 2013 MB NISSAN 370Z SPORT

04-30-2016, 07:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rusty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 70 Posts: 35,579 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684440	Most of the track rats here use the Hotchkis bar. Eagle likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

05-01-2016, 02:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
/Angelo350Z/ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,230 Drives: Z34 \| MK7 \| F82 Rep Power: 3662	It seems Hotchkis sways would be ideal for a conventional track, one that is mainly flat with minimal elevation changes. However, the Nurburgring is a different beast. It's really no different than a regular European country road. I'll do some more reading, but it seems Stillen sway bars would be ideal for my application. __________________ 2013 MB NISSAN 370Z SPORT

12-12-2011, 04:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
1cleanZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 1,132 Drives: '09 PW Nismo Rep Power: 22	bump from the dead, but why aren't eibach on this thread?? I would take eibach sways over both.