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I want to temporarily disconnect my rear sway bar. I was thinking about just removing one of the end links but the bar ends are close to the camber arms

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Old 04-14-2018, 10:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I want to temporarily disconnect my rear sway bar. I was thinking about just removing one of the end links but the bar ends are close to the camber arms and I am worried they might contact with suspension travel. What have other people done to disconnect the rear bar?
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Why do you want to disconnect it for?
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Why do you want to disconnect it for?
Suspension tuning, less oversteer and I want to get a feel for how it handles without the rear bar. I have done autoxes in the rain and it was too loose and it would be nice to have a quick way to change the balance.
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A lot of guys on the track remove the rear bar, helps tremendously for putting down power on corner exit. I have thought about doing it as well but just haven't gotten around to it. When I do, I plan to leave as little evidence of it as I can, rather than just unbolting a side from the end links
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A lot of the trackrats don't run a rear bar at all.
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I ran 1-2 seasons of autox with just an endlink disconnected. Nothing bad happened. I've since removed the bar altogether. I do have 900 lb/in springs in the rear so my suspension travel may not be identical to yours.

Once you go no rear bar you'll never go back.
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I ran 1-2 seasons of autox with just an endlink disconnected. Nothing bad happened. I've since removed the bar altogether. I do have 900 lb/in springs in the rear so my suspension travel may not be identical to yours.

Once you go no rear bar you'll never go back.
I really want to try it but there is less than .5" clearance and I'm on stock sport springs. I may wrap some electrical tape on the camber arm and see if it gets rubbed.
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Didn't remember it being that close on mine but then again it's been awhile since I've had a rear bar installed.
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I want to temporarily disconnect my rear sway bar. I was thinking about just removing one of the end links but the bar ends are close to the camber arms and I am worried they might contact with suspension travel. What have other people done to disconnect the rear bar?
You also need to take the muffler off.
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You also need to take the muffler off.
To remove the bar I think I need to disconnect the muffler and the X brace which is why I want an easier way to temporarily disable it like removing one of the end links.


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I just removed the passenger side end link on mine and I have had no issues on the track.
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I just removed the passenger side end link on mine and I have had no issues on the track.
So two people have removed one end link and no problems. That's good enough for me to give it a try.

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So I did remove the passenger side end link and wrapped the bar with blue painters tape so I could tell if it was rubbing. I drove it for a week and felt or heard nothing to indicate it was contacting the camber arm but when I looked at the painters tape it had been rubbed off in a spot. I do have a soft suspension setup with stock sport/base springs, Konis set to almost full soft at the rear and 50% at the front and a Eibach front bar. It seemed to only lightly rub and may not rub with stiffer springs or shock settings.

Regardless, I could feed in much more throttle exiting turns and I felt that even 1st gear traction accelerating in a straight line was better. I put the end link back on but if I go with stiffer springs in the future or find myself at a rainy track day I may pull it off again.
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So I did remove the passenger side end link and wrapped the bar with blue painters tape so I could tell if it was rubbing. I drove it for a week and felt or heard nothing to indicate it was contacting the camber arm but when I looked at the painters tape it had been rubbed off in a spot. I do have a soft suspension setup with stock sport/base springs, Konis set to almost full soft at the rear and 50% at the front and a Eibach front bar. It seemed to only lightly rub and may not rub with stiffer springs or shock settings.

Regardless, I could feed in much more throttle exiting turns and I felt that even 1st gear traction accelerating in a straight line was better. I put the end link back on but if I go with stiffer springs in the future or find myself at a rainy track day I may pull it off again.
If you go with stiffer springs you definitely want to keep it off. I drove the whole week at ZDAYZ with the TC off. I thought I set it to be on at the lower end, but when I checked it was totally off so I left it. That was after driving in the wet on Toyo r888. Call me crazy! Lol

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