Comparing sidewall stiffness: S-04 vs PSS

BrandonT · 11-20-2014, 01:48 PM

For anyone who has directly compared both, which has the stiffer and/or more stable sidewall?

I'm getting a M235i in soon (xdrive) and looking for good summer tires. I have S-04's on my 370Z and really like them, but on hard corners they do roll a little before they bite. Just curious if the PSS is better or worse - both tires have been mentioned to have a softer sidewall in this category.

DEpointfive0 · 11-20-2014, 01:56 PM

The PSS is probably worse

TerribleONE · 11-20-2014, 01:58 PM

I only have experience with the PSS's on my car however my buddy has the S-04s on his Evo and they seem about the same to me as far as the sidewall stiffness.

speedfreek · 11-20-2014, 01:59 PM

Id say the difference is marginal at best. The biggest difference in these two tires is weight and cost. So if weight is a concern go with PSS. If not, and cost is, then pick up another set of S04's.

DEpointfive0 · 11-20-2014, 02:07 PM

If you want stiff, go RE11.

Chan Chee Hoe · 11-21-2014, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

The PSS is probably worse

Agreed,worse than the stock RE-050a,but better comfort.

FPenvy · 11-21-2014, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonT

For anyone who has directly compared both, which has the stiffer and/or more stable sidewall?

I'm getting a M235i in soon (xdrive) and looking for good summer tires. I have S-04's on my 370Z and really like them, but on hard corners they do roll a little before they bite. Just curious if the PSS is better or worse - both tires have been mentioned to have a softer sidewall in this category.

i've never had S-04's but last year i ran PSS's.

handling was great and i didnt have many issues with sidewall roll except when i ran the dragon. it was notciable there quite a bit lol

not to make it harder to decide but the RE-11s im running now held up much better on the dragon than the PSS sidewalls.

BrandonT · 11-21-2014, 03:42 PM

I was considering the RE-11, not sure I can take the tread life though.

BrandonT · 11-21-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe

Agreed,worse than the stock RE-050a,but better comfort.

Are S-04 the same as RE-050a?

Amuse370z · 11-21-2014, 11:29 PM

All I can say is....I love my S-04s. I went from the stock base 18" set up to 19" S-04 set up.

It was night and day.

Chan Chee Hoe · 11-21-2014, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandonT

Are S-04 the same as RE-050a?

Singapore don't have S-04..

kenchan · 11-22-2014, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

If you want stiff, go RE11.

Yah but not to be taken as uncomfortable. re11's are comfy tires while stiff.

kenchan · 11-22-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandonT

Are S-04 the same as RE-050a?

No. S04's are better in every way.

BrandonT · 11-23-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

No. S04's are better in every way.

So putting yours and Chan Chee Ho's comments together the sidewall is stiffer than the PSS?

MacCool · 11-23-2014, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandonT

Are S-04 the same as RE-050a?

I drove my 2011 Z for 3 years with the stock RE-050's. I thought they were OK, but when I got this 2014, I immediately swapped the RE-050s for S-04s. I haven't pushed them enough to know how they are at the edge, but they do feel a little more responsive than the RE-050s, they're quieter, and they do better in heavy rain/standing water.

11-20-2014, 01:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
BrandonT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 169 Drives: 2009 370Z White Rep Power: 14	Comparing sidewall stiffness: S-04 vs PSS For anyone who has directly compared both, which has the stiffer and/or more stable sidewall? I'm getting a M235i in soon (xdrive) and looking for good summer tires. I have S-04's on my 370Z and really like them, but on hard corners they do roll a little before they bite. Just curious if the PSS is better or worse - both tires have been mentioned to have a softer sidewall in this category.

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TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5850	I only have experience with the PSS's on my car however my buddy has the S-04s on his Evo and they seem about the same to me as far as the sidewall stiffness. __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

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speedfreek A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 1,724 Drives: '12 370Z PW 6sp Rep Power: 18	Id say the difference is marginal at best. The biggest difference in these two tires is weight and cost. So if weight is a concern go with PSS. If not, and cost is, then pick up another set of S04's. __________________ Tomei\|Berk\|Takeda\|ZSpeed\|Fortune Auto\|Swift\|Eibach\|SPL\|Carbotech\|Motul\|Powertrix\|Stillen\|Aerojacket\|Z1\|Forgestar\|Enkei\|Project Kics\|Nismo Ti\|Llumar speedfreek's journal

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11-21-2014, 03:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
BrandonT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 169 Drives: 2009 370Z White Rep Power: 14	I was considering the RE-11, not sure I can take the tread life though.

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Amuse370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,170 Drives: '13 PW Fairlady Z Rep Power: 16	All I can say is....I love my S-04s. I went from the stock base 18" set up to 19" S-04 set up. It was night and day. __________________ [Powerhouse Amuse] [HKS] [Volk Racing] [KW Suspensions] [Eibach] [SPL] [TRS] [EVO-R] [NISMO]

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