Why you should use these tires with NISMO Wheels: 285/35R19 (F), 325/30R19 (R)

Rusty · 09-19-2018, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Akshaya

Well I missed this completely.

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BOLIO 671 · 12-07-2018, 01:45 AM

Just pulled the trigger on this set up on my Nismo. Michelin PS4s fit like a champ on stock suspension with Swift lowering springs. No clearance issues at all. In comparison to the factory nismo tires the ride is smother not much road noise and slight difference in feel on the steering but not crazy noticeable.

Nithmo · 03-14-2018, 10:56 PM

I have to ask- has anyone run this setup at the track? What did your lap times look like, in comparison to a previous setup? Wondering how that much more rotational mass impacts braking and cornering. It can't be good, can it?

Rusty · 03-14-2018, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo

I have to ask- has anyone run this setup at the track? What did your lap times look like, in comparison to a previous setup? Wondering how that much more rotational mass impacts braking and cornering. It can't be good, can it?

First set up was 275/35-19 PSS on 19x9.5, and 325/30-19 PSS on 19x12 Forgeline rims. Alot more grip then stock. After the 325's worn out. I put 345/30-19 PSS on. You really have to push to get them to break loose. After the fronts worn out. I put 285/35-19 PS4S on. Ton of grip.

You really have to be stupid to get into trouble.

Nithmo · 03-15-2018, 10:53 AM

That doesn't really answer the question, though. I'm more concerned about having a 325, with that much extra meat, on a 10.5" wheel, in the back. It's different having the 325 on a 12" wide back wheel, as it isn't nearly as whatever the opposite of stretched is. (LoL)

I guess I should clarify- it's not the fitment that is a concern, but more so, what is the performance aspect? Is it safe to do high speed cornering with 40mm more tire placed on the same wheel?

I'm not surprised about the increased tread life and increased grip- those do definitely make sense. But what about acceleration, braking, and handling feel? I'd imagine if you went back down in size, the car would feel faster and nimbler. So much more rotational mass to spin (aka kills power being put down to the wheels, etc).

It's kind of like my daily beater... a 2006 Acura TL 6MT. I use the oem wheels for winter use, and have bigger wheels/tires for summer use. After I pull the summers off in the fall, the car feels completely different. You don't nearly notice it as much when you put the beefier tires on... but you totally feel it when you take them off and replace with something smaller.

Rusty · 03-15-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo

That doesn't really answer the question, though. I'm more concerned about having a 325, with that much extra meat, on a 10.5" wheel, in the back. It's different having the 325 on a 12" wide back wheel, as it isn't nearly as whatever the opposite of stretched is. (LoL)

I guess I should clarify- it's not the fitment that is a concern, but more so, what is the performance aspect? Is it safe to do high speed cornering with 40mm more tire placed on the same wheel?

I'm not surprised about the increased tread life and increased grip- those do definitely make sense. But what about acceleration, braking, and handling feel? I'd imagine if you went back down in size, the car would feel faster and nimbler. So much more rotational mass to spin (aka kills power being put down to the wheels, etc).

It's kind of like my daily beater... a 2006 Acura TL 6MT. I use the oem wheels for winter use, and have bigger wheels/tires for summer use. After I pull the summers off in the fall, the car feels completely different. You don't nearly notice it as much when you put the beefier tires on... but you totally feel it when you take them off and replace with something smaller.

True. My Z is set-up for the track.

Alignment setting, sway bars, full SPL parts catalog, brake pads and rotors.

Nithmo · 03-15-2018, 11:23 AM

And final question regarding this setup...

So no spacers are required, if running the 285F and 325R, on Nismo wheels... if anything, maybe a 5mm spacer up front. Nothing for the rear.

For those on lowered suspension, do you have any rubbing issues whatsoever? Just making sure this is a smart setup for myself, as I plan on hitting the track and the last thing I want is to be worried about the tires constantly rubbing on something. My plan, at least for the time being, is simply going with Swift springs, and nothing else. Maybe coilovers in the future, but for now, just the springs.

Someone should update the original post.. OP made a bunch of assumptions when he decided to go this route... it would be cool to see a summary of the findings and answers to the assumptions originally made, without reading through 15 pages. It seems there isn't anything inherently overly negative about going this route, besides as I mentioned... slightly slower acceleration, less steering feel, and slightly slower braking... with the upside being longer tire life, good looks and better corner grip.

Spooler · 03-15-2018, 12:26 PM

No, you will have no issues if you lower it down a bit. Just make sure you the adjustable arms to set the toe and camber when you do it.

BOLIO 671 · 03-18-2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

No, you will have no issues if you lower it down a bit. Just make sure you the adjustable arms to set the toe and camber when you do it.

So u need a camber kit to run this set up lowered? I am on Swift lowering springs right now on a completely stock Nismo suspension. I have a friend who is on this set up on his Nismo but is at stock height with the OEM Nismo suspension.

Nithmo · 03-20-2018, 09:19 AM

Tires won't impact your camber. The lowering springs will. If you have no camber issues after putting the Swift springs on, you'll be fine.

I've heard the Swift springs are a modest enough drop that you don't necessarily need camber correction. Tire size shouldn't have much of an impact otherwise.

Nithmo · 03-20-2018, 05:51 PM

Ok, I'm having a bit of a wtf moment...

I decided to go with RE-11s in 285/35R19 for the front, and 325/30R19 for the rear, from Costco... but there's a bit of an issue: Costco tells me that Bridgestone discontinued the RE-11s!!!

Ok, I'll go with my plan "B" option: I'd go with the RE-71Rs instead... except they apparently don't come in a 325 size!!!

The only other tire Costco sells in that size is the RE-050, but I think that tire sucks balls... it doesn't even come close to the RE-11, or the slightly better RE-71R...

SO NOW WHAT DO I DO?!?!?

Spooler · 03-20-2018, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo

Ok, I'm having a bit of a wtf moment...

I decided to go with RE-11s in 285/35R19 for the front, and 325/30R19 for the rear, from Costco... but there's a bit of an issue: Costco tells me that Bridgestone discontinued the RE-11s!!!

Ok, I'll go with my plan "B" option: I'd go with the RE-71Rs instead... except they apparently don't come in a 325 size!!!

The only other tire Costco sells in that size is the RE-050, but I think that tire sucks balls... it doesn't even come close to the RE-11, or the slightly better RE-71R...

SO NOW WHAT DO I DO?!?!?

The only choice you have is Michelin PS4's. That is what I am going to go with next set unless Bridgestone releases a replacement for the RE11's. Only old stock is left. They may all be gone now. I am not happy they discontinued this tire. It had great grip with good longevity.

Nithmo · 03-20-2018, 07:44 PM

This really chaps my ***. This would've been my third set of RE-11s/RE-11As. By far my all around favorite tire, to date. No idea why they scrapped them altogether. Sigh.

I'll do some looking into it, but I get the feeling the PS4s won't stack up against the RE-11s, when they get warmed up on the track.

Hotrodz · 03-20-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo

This really chaps my ***. This would've been my third set of RE-11s/RE-11As. By far my all around favorite tire, to date. No idea why they scrapped them altogether. Sigh.

I'll do some looking into it, but I get the feeling the PS4s won't stack up against the RE-11s, when they get warmed up on the track.

I will give you some feedback their track performance as my buddy just put a set on his 1le camaro and we are headed to the track this weekend.

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Rusty · 03-20-2018, 08:09 PM

I track with the PSS's. They will hold up for about 20 ~ 25 minutes before getting greasy. I now have 285/35-19 PS4S on the front. They feel like they have a lot more grip then the PSS's on the street.

03-14-2018, 10:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nithmo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 219 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 129	I have to ask- has anyone run this setup at the track? What did your lap times look like, in comparison to a previous setup? Wondering how that much more rotational mass impacts braking and cornering. It can't be good, can it? Last edited by Nithmo; 03-14-2018 at 11:01 PM.

03-20-2018, 05:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nithmo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 219 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 129	Ok, I'm having a bit of a wtf moment... I decided to go with RE-11s in 285/35R19 for the front, and 325/30R19 for the rear, from Costco... but there's a bit of an issue: Costco tells me that Bridgestone discontinued the RE-11s!!! Ok, I'll go with my plan "B" option: I'd go with the RE-71Rs instead... except they apparently don't come in a 325 size!!! The only other tire Costco sells in that size is the RE-050, but I think that tire sucks balls... it doesn't even come close to the RE-11, or the slightly better RE-71R... SO NOW WHAT DO I DO?!?!? Last edited by Nithmo; 03-20-2018 at 05:55 PM.

03-20-2018, 08:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,449 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	I track with the PSS's. They will hold up for about 20 ~ 25 minutes before getting greasy. I now have 285/35-19 PS4S on the front. They feel like they have a lot more grip then the PSS's on the street. Hotrodz, Spooler and Nithmo like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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03-15-2018, 10:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Nithmo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 219 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 129	That doesn't really answer the question, though. I'm more concerned about having a 325, with that much extra meat, on a 10.5" wheel, in the back. It's different having the 325 on a 12" wide back wheel, as it isn't nearly as whatever the opposite of stretched is. (LoL) I guess I should clarify- it's not the fitment that is a concern, but more so, what is the performance aspect? Is it safe to do high speed cornering with 40mm more tire placed on the same wheel? I'm not surprised about the increased tread life and increased grip- those do definitely make sense. But what about acceleration, braking, and handling feel? I'd imagine if you went back down in size, the car would feel faster and nimbler. So much more rotational mass to spin (aka kills power being put down to the wheels, etc). It's kind of like my daily beater... a 2006 Acura TL 6MT. I use the oem wheels for winter use, and have bigger wheels/tires for summer use. After I pull the summers off in the fall, the car feels completely different. You don't nearly notice it as much when you put the beefier tires on... but you totally feel it when you take them off and replace with something smaller.

03-15-2018, 11:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nithmo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 219 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 129	And final question regarding this setup... So no spacers are required, if running the 285F and 325R, on Nismo wheels... if anything, maybe a 5mm spacer up front. Nothing for the rear. For those on lowered suspension, do you have any rubbing issues whatsoever? Just making sure this is a smart setup for myself, as I plan on hitting the track and the last thing I want is to be worried about the tires constantly rubbing on something. My plan, at least for the time being, is simply going with Swift springs, and nothing else. Maybe coilovers in the future, but for now, just the springs. Someone should update the original post.. OP made a bunch of assumptions when he decided to go this route... it would be cool to see a summary of the findings and answers to the assumptions originally made, without reading through 15 pages. It seems there isn't anything inherently overly negative about going this route, besides as I mentioned... slightly slower acceleration, less steering feel, and slightly slower braking... with the upside being longer tire life, good looks and better corner grip.

03-15-2018, 12:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,068 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684393	No, you will have no issues if you lower it down a bit. Just make sure you the adjustable arms to set the toe and camber when you do it.

03-20-2018, 09:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nithmo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 219 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 129	Tires won't impact your camber. The lowering springs will. If you have no camber issues after putting the Swift springs on, you'll be fine. I've heard the Swift springs are a modest enough drop that you don't necessarily need camber correction. Tire size shouldn't have much of an impact otherwise.

03-20-2018, 07:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Nithmo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 219 Drives: 16 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 129	This really chaps my ***. This would've been my third set of RE-11s/RE-11As. By far my all around favorite tire, to date. No idea why they scrapped them altogether. Sigh. I'll do some looking into it, but I get the feeling the PS4s won't stack up against the RE-11s, when they get warmed up on the track.