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Originally Posted by kenchan for steel lugs i do 85, but for aluminum ones 80. i check after driving a few miles. then re-torque however many times as needed. usually

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Old 12-03-2013, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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for steel lugs i do 85, but for aluminum ones 80.

i check after driving a few miles. then re-torque however many times as needed. usually 2-3 times, but sometimes could take as much as 5-6 re-torques.
Really? I generally go 80 for the initial install and then re-torque at 85 after an initial test drive. After that I check them at 85 pretty regularly (esp during a track weekend), but it's rare any of them move at 85 again. Sometimes 1-2 move a little before clicking on the 2nd re-torque, but never more than that. This is cone-type aftermarkets on aftermarket wheels, though, maybe that makes a difference.
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Really? I generally go 80 for the initial install and then re-torque at 85 after an initial test drive. After that I check them at 85 pretty regularly (esp during a track weekend), but it's rare any of them move at 85 again. Sometimes 1-2 move a little before clicking on the 2nd re-torque, but never more than that. This is cone-type aftermarkets on aftermarket wheels, though, maybe that makes a difference.
I torque the stock lugs on stock rims to 85 every time and have pretty much the same experience as you seem to have with the aftermarket ones (albeit minus the track time stress). I should check them more often, but I don't take the wheels off too often and they are always fine. As it is, I've only had a couple of lugs between all four wheels ever need tightening on the 2nd re-torque - after that they are always fine.
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I don't even think it makes a difference between 80 and 85, both do the job effectively to tighten the lugs down correctly

Maybe if you go in the 100's but 80 or 85 makes no real difference between the two
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80 or 85. That's splittin' hairs. LOL
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I don't even think it makes a difference between 80 and 85, both do the job effectively to tighten the lugs down correctly

Maybe if you go in the 100's but 80 or 85 makes no real difference between the two
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80 or 85. That's splittin' hairs. LOL
+1. Considering all the variables involved (condition of fasteners, accuracy/repeatability of wrench, &c), +/- 5 lb-ft isn't a big deal. Get them as close to spec as you can but don't be obsessive about it. Getting them even is important; be consistent.
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+1. Considering all the variables involved (condition of fasteners, accuracy/repeatability of wrench, &c), +/- 5 lb-ft isn't a big deal. Get them as close to spec as you can but don't be obsessive about it. Getting them even is important; be consistent.
yah, why bother using a torque wrench. just go by feel.
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I don't even think it makes a difference between 80 and 85, both do the job effectively to tighten the lugs down correctly

Maybe if you go in the 100's but 80 or 85 makes no real difference between the two
my snapon torque wrench says otherwise.

aluminum ones break if overtorqued. they are very fragile vs steel lugs.
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its crazy how you guys talk torque numbers like that. all these years all i have been using is these 16inch pythons arms of mine lol. havent had any issue in the last 10 to 12years

to the op: would still like to know why to not use muteki?? i just bought a set and currently running them for a couple of hundred miles now, seems pretty good quality to me
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to the op: would still like to know why to not use muteki?? i just bought a set and currently running them for a couple of hundred miles now, seems pretty good quality to me
Oh i just get the impression that they're not premium quality. No facts here, just a feeling.

...Of course that's my opinion, I could be wrong.
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Got my wheels mounted today and this dumbass didnt measure the OEM lugs before hand and turns out they wont fit the new wheels.

so i have to get some new lugs from the shop that mounts the wheels.

anyone using these? Muteki Lugs. How reliable are they besides the chipping issue? (more worry about durability and reliability than the colors chipping since i wont be able to get another set until i come back from my trip)

these are the ones i got

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Got my wheels mounted today and this dumbass didnt measure the OEM lugs before hand and turns out they wont fit the new wheels.

so i have to get some new lugs from the shop that mounts the wheels.

anyone using these? Muteki Lugs. How reliable are they besides the chipping issue? (more worry about durability and reliability than the colors chipping since i wont be able to get another set until i come back from my trip)

these are the ones i got

im running muteki sr48 lugs and theyre solid. its a steel lug and i dont notice any chipping yet. but, im also really careful, hell people laugh at me when i bust these out:

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Got my wheels mounted today and this dumbass didnt measure the OEM lugs before hand and turns out they wont fit the new wheels.

so i have to get some new lugs from the shop that mounts the wheels.

anyone using these? Muteki Lugs. How reliable are they besides the chipping issue? (more worry about durability and reliability than the colors chipping since i wont be able to get another set until i come back from my trip)

these are the ones i got

I own the Muteki SR35 close ended ones. No chipping since day one cause i'm very careful when it comes to the wheels and lug. Durability wise, i've been using it for about 10k miles without any issues nor even the treads are damaged. They're very good for the amount offered for
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I'm using a Muteki on my K3 wheels for almost 10k miles without any issue or whatsoever. So what's the problem?
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I'm using a Muteki on my K3 wheels for almost 10k miles without any issue or whatsoever. So what's the problem?
it appears people buy faux muteki's and complain about its quality. lol
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