Just got my PSS 285/35/19 for my NISMO

Joepro · 05-23-2013, 08:03 AM

I still do, I just swapped them for the stock sizes, still no happy, but its liveable.

kenchan · 05-23-2013, 09:56 AM

im not sure... it could be your suspension and alignment setup that is causing it.

i'd like to try the PSS on my car which is basically stock with very minor tweaks.

Joepro · 05-23-2013, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

im not sure... it could be your suspension and alignment setup that is causing it.

i'd like to try the PSS on my car which is basically stock with very minor tweaks.

for me nothing changed except for the tires, running very close to stock alignment specs, with a little more camber in the front just due to lowering of the swifts. Im on swifts and konis btw, which handles better than many budget coils in my opinion...I just do not see the value in this tire for its performance level, that is my overall point.

fuct · 05-23-2013, 10:40 AM

so Joepro, what tires do you recommend in the same price range as the PSS?

FuszNissan · 05-23-2013, 11:13 AM

I had the RS3's and then the PSS's and I can tell in the sidewall flex and the responsiveness in the steering feedback that the PSS's are a better tire. The RS3's where nice once you felt the car slide it it's rut like hooking on to a rail, then it was point n' shoot. The pss there was very minimal feedback and instant response in the turn.

Joepro · 05-23-2013, 12:25 PM

only other tires I acutally ran in that category on this car were the s-04, which I was going to buy, but between the forum and the reviews, I went with the PSS. If you do not care about tread life, re-11's no doubt. I do not know if they make them in our size, but my buddy has star specs on his rx8, and those were fantastic. I can tell you I would also be satified with KDW's in comparision to the PSS(ran them on the 350z), regardless of what reviews say, it is a sticky tire and it performs well, a guy at work runs auto cross with it and does quite well on it, enough so he is buying another set.

kenchan · 05-23-2013, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro

only other tires I acutally ran in that category on this car were the s-04, which I was going to buy, but between the forum and the reviews, I went with the PSS. If you do not care about tread life, re-11's no doubt. I do not know if they make them in our size, but my buddy has star specs on his rx8, and those were fantastic. I can tell you I would also be satified with KDW's in comparision to the PSS(ran them on the 350z), regardless of what reviews say, it is a sticky tire and it performs well, a guy at work runs auto cross with it and does quite well on it, enough so he is buying another set.

so you're saying that your car ran great on S04's, but runs like crap with PSS?

if so, i can understand your frustration. the S04's are good tires, i know from experience. PSS, ive not driven on them yet so i dont know.

FuszNissan · 05-23-2013, 12:28 PM

RE'11s are a great choice as well.

chrischhorn · 05-23-2013, 04:40 PM

Just tossing this out there. But then again, Michelin probably paid off tire rack

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kenchan · 05-23-2013, 04:54 PM

yah, tirerack seems to luv the pss... so that's kinda why i was scratching my head.

kenchan · 05-24-2013, 08:27 AM

.....where's joe? He crash with his pss?

chrischhorn · 05-24-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

.....where's joe? He crash with his pss?

cv129 · 05-25-2013, 01:34 PM

Toe affects turn, not just str8 line, to clarify. Best of luck with your tires.

Not debating your sidewall flex experience however, just trying to point out things that can affect the handling. I think if I am to go with pss in the future, I'll just go with stock size instead of the popular 265 up front. Keeping it slightly stretched may help a bit.

Joepro · 05-25-2013, 03:49 PM

Of course it does...but toe in does not help cornering or turn in, toe out will,thus if I said I am not running close to stock specs, someone would have been all over me blaming that... but they specifically toe in for highway stability. I went 265f and 295r originally and got rid of those promptly for stock sizes, which are better by far. If I were to do it again, knowing what I know about the pss I would use nismo rear at 285/35 and go 255/35 in the front, but next time it will be the s-04 or re-11.

Juice14 · 08-06-2013, 10:29 PM

I had these on my Z for a year, went to 3 track days and they performed like an extreme performace tire. The reasons they are so costly IMO is because 1) they are Michelins 2) they are more comfortable and quieter that any other summer tire that performs as well as this one (if there is one). 3) they are lighter that pretty much any tire.

PSS may not be the best bang for the buck for sure. But nothing like these as far as ultimate grip (for a max performance summer tire).
You can argue that there are some tires that are not too far behind and cost like 25% less but like I said they are behind.

05-23-2013, 08:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 34	I still do, I just swapped them for the stock sizes, still no happy, but its liveable. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

05-23-2013, 11:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	I had the RS3's and then the PSS's and I can tell in the sidewall flex and the responsiveness in the steering feedback that the PSS's are a better tire. The RS3's where nice once you felt the car slide it it's rut like hooking on to a rail, then it was point n' shoot. The pss there was very minimal feedback and instant response in the turn. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

05-23-2013, 12:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 34	only other tires I acutally ran in that category on this car were the s-04, which I was going to buy, but between the forum and the reviews, I went with the PSS. If you do not care about tread life, re-11's no doubt. I do not know if they make them in our size, but my buddy has star specs on his rx8, and those were fantastic. I can tell you I would also be satified with KDW's in comparision to the PSS(ran them on the 350z), regardless of what reviews say, it is a sticky tire and it performs well, a guy at work runs auto cross with it and does quite well on it, enough so he is buying another set. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group Last edited by Joepro; 05-23-2013 at 12:34 PM.

05-23-2013, 12:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	RE'11s are a great choice as well. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

05-23-2013, 04:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
chrischhorn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Mililani, HI Posts: 1,566 Drives: 2014 Juke Nismo RS Rep Power: 17	Just tossing this out there. But then again, Michelin probably paid off tire rack Tire Test Results : Clash of the Titans: Testing Two New Max Performance Summer Heavy Hitters __________________ R.I.P. 8/01/13 1SlowZ One day I'll have another....

05-23-2013, 09:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	im not sure... it could be your suspension and alignment setup that is causing it. i'd like to try the PSS on my car which is basically stock with very minor tweaks.

05-23-2013, 10:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 25	so Joepro, what tires do you recommend in the same price range as the PSS?

05-23-2013, 04:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, tirerack seems to luv the pss... so that's kinda why i was scratching my head.

05-24-2013, 08:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	.....where's joe? He crash with his pss?

05-25-2013, 01:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,270 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163996	Toe affects turn, not just str8 line, to clarify. Best of luck with your tires. Not debating your sidewall flex experience however, just trying to point out things that can affect the handling. I think if I am to go with pss in the future, I'll just go with stock size instead of the popular 265 up front. Keeping it slightly stretched may help a bit. Last edited by cv129; 05-25-2013 at 01:41 PM.

05-25-2013, 03:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 34	Of course it does...but toe in does not help cornering or turn in, toe out will,thus if I said I am not running close to stock specs, someone would have been all over me blaming that... but they specifically toe in for highway stability. I went 265f and 295r originally and got rid of those promptly for stock sizes, which are better by far. If I were to do it again, knowing what I know about the pss I would use nismo rear at 285/35 and go 255/35 in the front, but next time it will be the s-04 or re-11. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

08-06-2013, 10:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
Juice14 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: International Posts: 132 Drives: Red 370Z Rep Power: 14	I had these on my Z for a year, went to 3 track days and they performed like an extreme performace tire. The reasons they are so costly IMO is because 1) they are Michelins 2) they are more comfortable and quieter that any other summer tire that performs as well as this one (if there is one). 3) they are lighter that pretty much any tire. PSS may not be the best bang for the buck for sure. But nothing like these as far as ultimate grip (for a max performance summer tire). You can argue that there are some tires that are not too far behind and cost like 25% less but like I said they are behind. Last edited by Juice14; 08-06-2013 at 10:32 PM.

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