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Originally Posted by Z Ninja Where is your documentation that they don't work? This thread seems to have people who've been using them fine. http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...kage-rays.html You didn't read the thread

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Old 08-20-2015, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Where is your documentation that they don't work? This thread seems to have people who've been using them fine.
Gorilla 63621 Mag Wheel Locks = They work for 19" Sports Package Rays!
You didn't read the thread then I quoted Andrew's very first comment in that thread, as I have done again below. I'm sure there are a number of people who run them on the street and haven't experienced catastrophic failure. But that doesn't mean they are a proper fit

Andrew has looked into this exact issue (aftermarket lugs/locks on OEM wheels) pretty damn thoroughly. And the fact of the matter is only the OEM lugs/locks fit the OEM wheels.

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You'll fúck your **** up, they aren't big enough to put pressure on the wheels.

OP, go tighten them more, them tighten them more, then do it again...
Now undo them and you'll see that the washer is bent because the lock is going INTO the hole
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Andrew has looked into this exact issue (aftermarket lugs/locks on OEM wheels) pretty damn thoroughly. And the fact of the matter is only the OEM lugs/locks fit the OEM wheels.

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The OEM locks are just the kind of thing every internet video shows you how to easily defeat. Just pound on a size too small socket and take it right off. The Gorilla is the only one that spins on the outer sleeve. I'm not completely convinced they aren't the right fit. I never experienced a case where when torquing it down, it just kept turning. I need to see for myself what is going on before I can fully comprehend what all the hoopla is about why they supposedly aren't the right fit. I understand there is something about the bent washer, but I haven't seen that in my case yet. You're not supposed to use an impact wrench with these, or crank them on super hard. Either of those could cause bent washers.
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The Gorilla is the only one that spins on the outer sleeve.
Easily defeated with a gator grip socket. No wheel lock is sufficient as a primary defense. They are just an additional deterrent and 20 of them is more deterring than 5

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I'm not completely convinced they aren't the right fit. I never experienced a case where when torquing it down, it just kept turning. I need to see for myself what is going on before I can fully comprehend what all the hoopla is about why they supposedly aren't the right fit. I understand there is something about the bent washer, but I haven't seen that in my case yet. You're not supposed to use an impact wrench with these, or crank them on super hard. Either of those could cause bent washers.


But you haven't measured anything or compared them in a calculated manner to OEM lugs? So how do you know they fit properly? All I said was I trust Andrew. If you are interested, I'm sure he would be happy to discuss with you the experience that he has in this area. His phone number is all over this forum lol.

I will add that I've seen OEM wheel locks torqued down with an impact wrench way beyond the specified 85 ft-lbs (I swear it was closer to 150 ft-lbs) by a stupid tire guy and no bent washers. But I understand the design of the OEM lugs is different than the standard aftermarket options and why the washer will bend with these aftermarket locks if treated the same.
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