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Old 05-01-2013, 08:04 PM   #151 (permalink)
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One more thing Visconti pointed out as far as Uprev vs ECUtek comparisons go is that to have a true apples to apples comparison the same tuner would have to tune using Uprev and then tune using ECUtek since not all tuners are equal.
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I stopped listening a while ago. Since there are folks out there looking to make a move on this product, I just hope that they will actually post on their experience..........
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I'm not going to kiss *** or post datalogs of my work.

If anyone wants to see datalogs, they can purchase the tune and have a look for themselves.

Again, if what I've posted isn't enough.. don't buy it.. But there's plenty of people already lined up to get tunes so you can wait to see the results from them.

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Nobody is expecting (or even asking) you to kiss a$$. All they are asking for if reasonable evidence that your product does what you claim.

I rest my case. Thanks for clarifying that you really are a jackass and not just a poor communicator.
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It's just going to take time. Right now there's really not enough vendors running ecutek and apparently it doesn't work on every ECU version that we even have.

This guy can post all the dyno maps he wants but seriously that still won't be enough for most people. It's going to take forum members, who already had uprev, going and testing the waters or a bigger reputable (as in reputable on this particular forum) tuner like Z1 showing differences between the two. It's expensive to do all that and unreasonable to expect anyone to do it but let's be honest - that's really what we're all waiting for.
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Nobody is expecting (or even asking) you to kiss a$$. All they are asking for if reasonable evidence that your product does what you claim.

I rest my case. Thanks for clarifying that you really are a jackass and not just a poor communicator.
Dynosheet shows what I claim..

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It's just going to take time. Right now there's really not enough vendors running ecutek and apparently it doesn't work on every ECU version that we even have.

This guy can post all the dyno maps he wants but seriously that still won't be enough for most people. It's going to take forum members, who already had uprev, going and testing the waters or a bigger reputable (as in reputable on this particular forum) tuner like Z1 showing differences between the two. It's expensive to do all that and unreasonable to expect anyone to do it but let's be honest - that's really what we're all waiting for.
It's not that it doesn't work. ECUtek just doesn't have all the various Z base maps in their software. From what I can tell, they don't have my 2011 US 6MT yet, but I am going to visit the tuner this weekend where they will get all of the information from my car, send it to ECUtek, who will then update their software (they claim this process generally takes less than a week). After that, the tuner has everything he needs for tuning my Z And there's always a chance that some other Z in the same category has already given their info to ECUtek, making my car ready for tuning when I show up this weekend. Not getting my hopes up, though. I know this is going to be a process.

Exactly! Excellent points This $hit is new. The tuners are excited and I haven't seen them claim anything outrageous, so no reason to dog them - they claim gains and they claim they unlock more than UpRev giving potential for more gains. I don't understand how you can get mad at them for saying this stuff. As diddy said, it will take someone spending a bunch of $$$ to satisfy a bunch of you. If you don't want to be a guinea pig, then you'll have to wait for someone to post their experience. Now I'm in the very fortunate position of not having spent a lot of money on an UpRev tune already, and having a nearby tuner for which to be a guinea pig. Those of you with UpRev will either need to be one of the first and see for yourself, or wait for someone else. There are absolutely people that will do this. Just be patient.
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My tuner has been familiar with Ecutek for a long time but on other platforms, not Nissans. They are a reputable company that have made good contributions to the industry. I have yet to see any convincing data for our platform, but as stated, it is very new. The single ignition timing map they are offering will be the biggest improvement for NA Z's over UpRev by far. The car will hold the correct ignition timing throughout the entire RPM range without the stock ecu interfering. It will help in FI applications too, but I don't run as much timing FI'd as a NA Z would. My tuner was particularly excited about the fact that someone has finally addressed that issue. The VVEL control would be the next big step. When they finalize that part of the software they will take over the market. As far as traction control, it can be done some what right now w/ UpRev but could be refined, tweaked and made to be moar betta.
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It's not that it doesn't work. ECUtek just doesn't have all the various Z base maps in their software. From what I can tell, they don't have my 2011 US 6MT yet, but I am going to visit the tuner this weekend where they will get all of the information from my car, send it to ECUtek, who will then update their software (they claim this process generally takes less than a week). After that, the tuner has everything he needs for tuning my Z And there's always a chance that some other Z in the same category has already given their info to ECUtek, making my car ready for tuning when I show up this weekend. Not getting my hopes up, though. I know this is going to be a process.
They have my 2011 US 6MT sport.

Visconti is coming down to PA this weekend and will hopefully be tuning me while here. So I should hopefully be able to report back with dynos.
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They have my 2011 US 6MT sport.

Visconti is coming down to PA this weekend and will hopefully be tuning me while here. So I should hopefully be able to report back with dynos.
Excellent I hope it's the same map I just talked to the tuner and scheduled for 11 am on Sunday this weekend. He said they've had like 20+ maps uploaded in the past 10 days, so it definitely wouldn't surprise me to find mine included in the support now.
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I would like to see some tuning package be able to remap the SRM for different FD ratios.
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It's all about customer service and expecting to be treated fairly right if I'm dropping 1k on a tune. I'm boosted as well and I know GTR have been using ecutek as well. They don't have much options if I remember correctly. Just Cobb (which was never great for the Nissan platform) and now ecutek.

That being said the kind of responses from simple question this guy gives trying to "promote" this product is ridiculous. Could u imagine the kind of help you'd get if u need trouble shooting with ur software or tune if this is the kind of response ur getting from simple questions? Apparently they're doin very well without this community which seems to give him some kind of "don't care here it is attitude".

Squeeze is very well respected around here and his Z is a built monster. His input goes a long ways. But he won't be tuning your car neither.

The way you treat potential customers goes a long ways. I'm happy with my boosted Uprev numbers and the service I get from them also. Better or not better, he has made my personal choice very easy to stick with what I'm running with.
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The way you treat potential customers goes a long ways. I'm happy with my boosted Uprev numbers and the service I get from them also. Better or not better, he has made my personal choice very easy to stick with what I'm running with.
That's your decision but I would consider it incredibly short-sighted to exclude a manufacturer's product from consideration based on the attitude of a single retailer who happens to stock that product.
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That's your decision but I would consider it incredibly short-sighted to exclude a manufacturer's product from consideration based on the attitude of a single retailer who happens to stock that product.
This is also my thought. I'm definitely still interested in what ECUTek can offer me, but definitely not from this guy posting in this thread.
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I suppose ur right about that also. Still just leaves an overall bad taste about it all. The manufacturer should look at who they give their business too.

Also I'm far ahead of the modding game than you are and every penny and service I get at this point in the game matters very much to me.
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