Track Day Best Practices - MUST READ

carlitos_370z · 01-28-2014, 08:49 AM

Im not an expert my friend but i think you have to put the SS lines if you can to track your car. Today i buy mines from Z1 with the Motul Brake fluid!!! because i want to put my car ready for a track day in March.

wstar · 01-28-2014, 09:42 AM

The SS lines are mostly for pedal feel/response. Less mush in the system than having the rubber expand against the pressure. They're not strictly necessary right off the bat.

Masterbeatty · 01-28-2014, 11:12 AM

When I cooked my fluid for the first time I changed the fluid and got some confidence back. But the SS lines I got full confidence back.

GSS138 · 01-28-2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

I have to say thank you all for putting all this information in one place. I have read through almost all of this thread and I have come up with the following items I still think I need.
Carbotech Brake Pads Sport Front - Pads XP10
$199.00
Carbotech Brake Pads Sport Rear - Pads XP10
$166.00
Motul RBF 600 Performance Brake Fluid 2 Qts
$34.50

I am going to try to make it out to NJ Motorsports Park a few times this year. It will be my first time a track, and I want to have a good safe track car.

My car is a 2011 Nismo with the Nismo pads but I don't want to test them on the track. I have already installed a 24 row oil cooler and soon will have installed the CJM Fuel starvation kit. The only other performance changes are Stillen G3 intake and Berk Test pipes. The rest of the car is OEM.

My one question is since I will be already draining all the brake fluid should I change out the brake lines to SS or is there really no benefit since the car isn't old and doesn't have many miles on it?

Just go Motul 660 not the 600, or even Endless fluid. You will cook the 600 easily with those pads. Mushy horrible brakes is something you will experience inevitably, but the less the better.

The SS brakelines are a quick cheap safety upgrade, first thing a lot of guys do. I would highly recommend it. If a $25.00 brake line is the difference between a rubber line exploding and a SS line not exploding, then it's a definite buy at $25.00.

2011 Nismo#91 · 01-28-2014, 12:08 PM

Thanks guys!

Sh0velMan · 01-28-2014, 12:18 PM

FWIW, you need to be sure flush and bleed the system more often with 660. It is even more hydroscopic than 600 is. Once the water content gets above a very very low percentage, its boil point comes way way down.

wstar · 01-28-2014, 12:30 PM

Has anyone actually burst a brake line? I've never heard of it. I could see it if the lines were old and the rubber was dry and weak. But surely not a line in good shape on a well-maintained or relatively-new car?

Sh0velMan · 01-28-2014, 12:49 PM

I've never heard of anyone actually rupturing an OEM brakeline that wasn't a million years old. Could happen though I suppose.

cossie1600 · 01-28-2014, 01:10 PM

Yup I flew off the track at pocono. I was less than 3 feet from the wall once I stopped, never been the same since

Chuck33079 · 01-28-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Yup I flew off the track at pocono. I was less than 3 feet from the wall once I stopped, never been the same since

From a blown brake line? That's a serious Code Brown moment.

cossie1600 · 01-28-2014, 01:16 PM

0507 350z Pocono North Big Spin No Brakes - YouTube

Chuck33079 · 01-28-2014, 01:18 PM

Your lack of swearing is absolutely remarkable.

Masterbeatty · 01-28-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

0507 350z Pocono North Big Spin No Brakes - YouTube

Holy **** dude! I would of **** my pants. Glad your ok and back at it.

carlitos_370z · 01-29-2014, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

0507 350z Pocono North Big Spin No Brakes - YouTube

man thanks to god that you and your car dont crash!!!

synolimit · 01-29-2014, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GSS138

Just go Motul 660 not the 600, or even Endless fluid. You will cook the 600 easily with those pads. Mushy horrible brakes is something you will experience inevitably, but the less the better.

The SS brakelines are a quick cheap safety upgrade, first thing a lot of guys do. I would highly recommend it. If a $25.00 brake line is the difference between a rubber line exploding and a SS line not exploding, then it's a definite buy at $25.00.

Is a dry 23 degrees really worth it? The wets actually 1 degree lower. To me, for price, the 600 seems better.

01-28-2014, 09:42 AM	#152 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	The SS lines are mostly for pedal feel/response. Less mush in the system than having the rubber expand against the pressure. They're not strictly necessary right off the bat. sig11, Eagle and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

01-28-2014, 11:12 AM	#153 (permalink)
Masterbeatty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Whales Vagina Posts: 4,586 Drives: the speed limit... Rep Power: 122866	When I cooked my fluid for the first time I changed the fluid and got some confidence back. But the SS lines I got full confidence back. carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ 2011 MB 6MT Masterbeatty journal

01-28-2014, 12:18 PM	#156 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	FWIW, you need to be sure flush and bleed the system more often with 660. It is even more hydroscopic than 600 is. Once the water content gets above a very very low percentage, its boil point comes way way down. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

01-28-2014, 12:30 PM	#157 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Has anyone actually burst a brake line? I've never heard of it. I could see it if the lines were old and the rubber was dry and weak. But surely not a line in good shape on a well-maintained or relatively-new car? __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

01-28-2014, 12:49 PM	#158 (permalink)
Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 20	I've never heard of anyone actually rupturing an OEM brakeline that wasn't a million years old. Could happen though I suppose. MightyBobo likes this. __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

01-28-2014, 08:49 AM	#151 (permalink)
carlitos_370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 7,157 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z SP M6 Rep Power: 7585	Im not an expert my friend but i think you have to put the SS lines if you can to track your car. Today i buy mines from Z1 with the Motul Brake fluid!!! because i want to put my car ready for a track day in March.

01-28-2014, 12:08 PM	#155 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,381 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 33858	Thanks guys!

01-28-2014, 01:10 PM	#159 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Yup I flew off the track at pocono. I was less than 3 feet from the wall once I stopped, never been the same since

01-28-2014, 01:16 PM	#161 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	0507 350z Pocono North Big Spin No Brakes - YouTube

01-28-2014, 01:18 PM	#162 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Your lack of swearing is absolutely remarkable. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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